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Why are fewer and fewer young people choosing to become doctors?

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brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active MemberOP
52 messages
joined Dec 2005
#161 ·
And you know what? I’m still gonna keep putting "Dr." before their names and basically ignore the Higher Education Act:-)
Andrew Campbell4 Andrew Campbell4 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jun 2006
#162 ·
I didn't even want to go into medicine because, honestly, nobody here respects doctors—people think they can just spit on them all day, yet the second someone gets a scratch or sneezes three times, they're all running to the ER.
And don't even get me started on the med students... they aren't exactly geniuses either.
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#163 ·
brightmarlin44 said:I mean, if you're stuck in a correctional facility in Pittsburgh, things might get a little dicey, right Lawrence Wells? ;-))

Honestly, feels like I'm living in paradise here...😎
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#164 ·
Andrew Campbell4 said:I didn't even want to go to med school because it feels like doctors here aren't respected at all—people feel entitled to spit on them, yet they're the first ones running back the second they get a scratch or a minor cold.
And honestly, the guys in med school aren't exactly much to look at either...

As for the guys in med school? Yeah, 99% of them look like they’ve been through a blender—but trust me, at the hospital where I'm doing my residency, there are some gorgeous young doctors that will absolutely knock your socks off!!!😈
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2005
#165 ·
The real secret to passing the entrance exam? Being easy on the eyes.
Kevin White5 Kevin White5 Active Member
96 messages
joined Mar 2006
#166 ·
Yeah. I lost my soul during the entrance exam. Ugh. Luckily, it's all over now. 😁
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
312 messages
joined Jun 2006
#167 ·
Kevin White5 The user said:Oh, man. Honestly? I lost my soul during that entrance exam. Just... ugh. But hey—thank God it’s finally over. 😁

You nailed it, colleague!👍
Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
110 messages
joined Jan 2006
#168 ·
brightmarlin44 said:And I’ll just keep putting "Dr." before my name and breaking the law, I guess. :-)

By all means, go for it. If you really want to lean into the bit, why stop there? Just add:

The Honorable Count Dr. Firstname van the Lastname, M.D.

You'll practically look like a federal agency. 🙏
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#169 ·
Justin Fox said:Just go for it—you might as well lean into the whole look. Try this:

The Illustrious Count, Dr. [First Name] van der [Surname], MD.

You’ll practically look like a federal agency🙏

What do you know? Maybe they really are pop stars! 😬 😬 😬
Zachary Thompson9 Zachary Thompson9 Active Member
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joined Oct 2006
#170 ·
oh please...
His Excellency Dr. Dr. Name, the Noble Dr. Surname, PhD, MD, JD, Esq.
Honestly, you could probably add a few more titles to that list just to make sure the total idiots on this forum don't forget who we're talking about.
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#171 ·
Zachary Thompson9 said:nah...
His Excellence Dr. Dr. Name Noble Dr. Surname, PhD, MD
—you can add "Dr." a few more times if that helps the idiots on this forum remember who we're talking about

LMAO!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Kevin White5 Kevin White5 Active Member
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joined Mar 2006
#172 ·
In Austria, if a physician holds two separate degrees, they use the title DDr.—double doctor. If you don't believe me, go ahead and look it up...
http://www.drhuber.at/
Zachary Thompson9 Zachary Thompson9 Active Member
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joined Oct 2006
#173 ·
So, "Dr." can technically cover doctorates from two totally different fields, but you’re still out here calling him "Doctor" (singular!) or just "Professor." Makes sense, I guess.
Mr. Huber is both a medical guy and a theologian... honestly, I'm surprised he doesn't have a specialty in OB/GYN or something.😬
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2005
#174 ·
In my opinion, the best way to handle titles in the States is to tuck everything behind the name, except for the actual job title—like professor or something. You just list it out, like professor, Arslan Arslanagic, MD, PhD.
Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
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joined Jan 2006
#175 ·
Smart move
nimblestag31 nimblestag31 Member
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joined Sep 2005
#176 ·
tzar said:Some students used to turn down better grades just to keep their GPA steady—for me, the whole goal was just passing the exam so I could go out, hang with friends, and just live my life. Honestly, I didn't care much back then. But looking back, it's a bit different now that I don't have parents who are doctors to basically hand me a residency on a silver platter.

See, I honestly can't wrap my head around why anyone in med school would act like that. I mean, messing around and hanging out is fine—totally get that—but the whole thing about rejecting grades? I just don't get it. Like, isn't the main goal just getting a passing grade? If you don't know half the material and you don't care how your hard work is actually being measured—or if you want to land a scholarship or something—it all seems kind of pointless. And people who actually give a damn about their grades come off as so pathetic.

I remember this one guy in my year who turned down a 3 or a 4 in Neurophysiology, and everyone was gossiping about him for a week straight. Like, wow, imagine being that person—people were acting like he was crazy for refusing a grade, as if he actually thought he could aim for an A. Personally, I think it's totally fine. If you genuinely love a subject and want to learn as much as possible, why wouldn't you turn down a grade just to keep studying? Sure, it probably won't help when you're applying for a residency later, but hey, if it makes someone happy, let them be. Though, I guess I wouldn't turn down a 3 in Neurophys myself... 😁
Lisa Doyle Lisa Doyle Member
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#177 ·
No job... especially medicine—you can't learn how to actually do the work honestly without thousands upon thousands of hours of hands-on practice. You can be the biggest straight-A student in the world, but you'll just end up remembered as some theorist who hasn't a clue how things work in the real world. And don't even get me started on how clueless people are about the actual job once they walk out of graduation. So, frankly, I couldn't care less what grades I pull on most exams; all I care about is getting in there, doing the work, and just doing it. All that theoretical stuff? You pick it up on the job eventually. Honestly, I take my hat off to the people who don't obsess over getting A's. Those types are either absolute geniuses or incredibly driven. Both are great traits, and since I'm clearly not one of those people, I have nothing to complain about because they're better than me. I'm only posting this to shift the focus back to the fact that it isn't all about the GPA, despite what a lot of "overachievers" seem to think. You tell me...
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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joined Jun 2006
#178 ·
nimblestag31 said:Look, I honestly will never understand how anyone in med school can act like that. Sure, joking around and hanging out is fine—whatever—but I just don't get the whole "just scraping by" attitude. The goal should be to actually learn. If you're just aiming for a passing grade while half the material goes over your head and you couldn't care less about how your hard work is being measured—or if you even want a scholarship—then what's the point? It’s honestly sad to see people who just don't care.

I mean, there was this guy in my year who actually turned down a 3 or a 4 on his neurophysiology exam, and everyone spent an entire week gossiping about him. Like, wow, imagine being that guy—everyone's acting like he's crazy because he's rejecting grades. They're all like, "What is he thinking? He wants an A?" But personally? I think it's totally fine. If you actually love a subject and want to master it, why shouldn't you turn down a mediocre grade? Sure, it probably won't change much when you're applying for a residency later, but if someone finds joy in truly knowing the material, let them have it. Personally, though, I wouldn't turn down a 3 in neurophys myself. 😁

To pass anatomy, you really have to know everything, but getting that straight A? That’s usually just luck mixed with a little finesse. Don't get me wrong, getting a good grade feels great, but what's the point if I'm going to completely forget the pathology I studied today—even if I got an A on it—within a month? At that point, it's just general knowledge. What really matters is whether you actually love this profession and how much luck you have throughout your career... because at the end of the day, those grades don't mean much. They aren't going to guarantee me my dream specialty tomorrow. That's just how it is. 🙂
Benjamin Murphy2 Benjamin Murphy2 Member
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joined Jul 2006
#179 ·
Lawrence Wells said:To ace the USMLE Step 1, you basically have to memorize everything under the sun, but getting a perfect score? That’s just luck and having a bit of flair. Honestly, sure, it feels good to get a high grade, but what’s the point if I’m going to completely forget every single thing about pathology I studied today by next month? It’s basically just trivia at that point... What actually matters is whether you actually care about this profession and how much luck you have in life, because those grades don't mean squat in the long run... They aren't going to guarantee me my choice of residency tomorrow. That's just how the world works... 🙂

It’s been eight years since I finished med school. And I gotta tell you, Lawrence Wells is spot on. Nobody asks you what your GPA was when you're applying for a fellowship, and there isn't much use in memorizing an entire textbook if you can't apply it. Hands-on work is the only thing that counts. Your grades during undergrad aren't a metric for what you actually know later on, and everyone ends up carrying roughly the same foundation of knowledge eventually...

Personally, I would've preferred more time spent at the local pub 😬
Lisa Rodriguez84 Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member
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joined Jul 2006
#180 ·
I’m seriously considering med school, but everyone keeps preaching about how impossible it is. Honestly, the funniest part is that most of these people don't have a clue what they're talking about—they're just parroting some even more clueless person they heard once. It’s incredibly irritating, and frankly, it scares the hell out of me enough to make me second-guess everything.

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