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silverfalcon7 silverfalcon7 Member
23 messages
joined Apr 2006
#21 ·
So, looking back at my absolute worst medical nightmares based on what I've actually been through personally...
1. The very first time I ended up in the hospital, they completely botched the diagnosis, which meant I went under the knife for an operation I didn't even need in the first place...
2. Then there was the second time, which happened just about twenty days after they'd discharged me following that first ordeal... everything spiraled out of control so fast, and this time I was in REAL, desperate need of emergency surgery! But honestly, even the doctors seemed terrified of making another mistake, so they sat on the diagnosis for 48 hours, leaving me to just struggle through levels of pain I don't even want to describe... In the end, they finally operated at the very last possible second, and I am just so incredibly grateful to be standing here today...
3. And then there was the time I was hospitalized because of an allergy... they poked and prodded me constantly trying to figure out what was causing the reaction... and then, to top it all off, they managed to lose my test results entirely...
Well, I suppose that's the short version of my medical saga for now! 👏
Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
110 messages
joined Jan 2006
#22 ·
Jamie Clark74 and Jack Baker15, please, let’s not turn this into a fight. You’re both missing the point here. I find myself siding with what Jack Baker15 wrote, though I also think Jamie Clark74 has a valid point regarding his own experience. Sometimes doctors are just incompetent. I’ve spent plenty of time arguing with people on threads like "Episiotomy—when does medical butchery end?" back when I actually had the nerve to challenge certain medical traditions and suggest that, occasionally, doctors simply don't care about the patient.

The way Jack Baker15 described her birth makes it sound like some idiot gave her mother a Pitocin drip when she should have been headed straight for a C-section, triggering an emergency situation. It raises the question of why they didn't manage the anesthesia properly. Honestly, if they were foolish enough to make a mistake that massive right out of the gate, who knows what else those amateurs did during the procedure.

It’s shameful, truly. But the absolute worst part? An idiot like that won't face any consequences for his crime. And yes, I’m calling it a crime. If you slash someone on a street corner, it's a felony. If you slash someone in a hospital—unnecessarily and without anesthesia—it’s... what? Nothing? Based on how things work in our healthcare system, it’s zero. No prosecution, impossible to prove, because colleagues cover for one another and everything gets swept under the rug. Documentation disappears, internal investigations never happen, there's no independent review, nothing. Unless, of course, you run into an aggressive patient—someone decisive with the right connections who is willing to make a scene and pursue them privately. Even then, the penalties are a joke. It's a lovely way to handle childbirth: you walk into a hospital healthy, and you walk out traumatized and physically broken.
Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
110 messages
joined Jan 2006
#23 ·
silverfalcon7 said:So, looking back at my absolute worst hospital experiences...
1. My first stint in the hospital involved a total misdiagnosis. They went ahead with surgery that I didn't even need. Just wasted effort.
2. Then, barely twenty days after being discharged from that first mess, I ended up right back in a hospital bed. Everything had spiraled, and this time, I actually needed emergency surgery. But honestly? The doctors seemed terrified of messing up again, so they sat on the diagnosis for 48 hours. They just let me sit there struggling through pain I won't even go into. They finally operated at the very last second. I'm just glad to be standing here today.
3. Another time was an allergy issue. They poked and prodded me to figure out what was going wrong, only to lose my lab results entirely.
Anyway, that's the short version for now! 👏

Man, if you had gone back to some shady exorcist to get treated, things could have been even worse. Did you ever file a lawsuit? Was anyone actually held accountable for those blunders? Do you even have any idea what really went down there?
silverfalcon7 silverfalcon7 Member
23 messages
joined Apr 2006
#24 ·
If I could just go back in time and undo everything... honestly, it wouldn't magically purge the trauma from my soul, but at least it would stop any lasting illnesses from taking hold in the first place... I didn't file those lawsuits because I wanted to spend my precious years or my sanity fighting them... what happened, happened. I just find myself hoping I never have to endure anything like that ever again. To make matters worse, they actually tried to keep me hospitalized one more time after all that chaos, thinking it was just an allergic reaction, but I wasn't having any of it—I'd learned my lesson! So, I stayed home and just drove in for my injections instead. These days, I give hospitals a massive wide berth!!
As for what actually went down over there... one of the doctors admitted it was a mistake and claimed that anyone can slip up once in a while... It’s just so incredibly disheartening, there really is no other way to put it...
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2004
#25 ·
It's just a small example of how mistakes happen to everyone... not just doctors. About 30 years ago, I was scheduled for a colonoscopy and told a nurse it was time for my "enema." Her response? "How should I know?" Half an hour later, another nurse comes running by saying, "Quick, get to the restroom, you're next!" I sent them all running at 3 PM... they were all absolutely terrified.

Then there was a time 20 years ago in the hospital after a minor surgery... I was getting my meds while my wife sat by my side. A nurse set a Pethedin injection on my bedside table and walked away...
I whispered to my wife, "Watch closely, because they're about to give this to me instead of the other guy." She just rolled her eyes and said, "You always make something out of nothing." Honestly, my back was killing me, so I told her to just be quiet... we ended up having a little spat. Then the nurse arrived and jabbed me with the shot. I just pretended to fall asleep. Ten minutes later, a whole group of nurses and a doctor came rushing in... shaking me, trying to wake me up. It was hilarious to me, but I kept playing dead... it was a total circus.
The injection was actually meant for the patient in the next bed. They didn't realize what they'd done until he rang his bell asking for his meds.

I once wrote about my wife's experience in Washington, D.C. over at Knossos back in 1963, and I figured things might have changed a bit in 20 or 25 years. But apparently, Jack Baker15's mother "only received a local injection"... though it wasn't strong enough and wasn't even in the right spot.

Mistakes shouldn't happen, but they do. If everything is planned out and there's plenty of time, why aren't medical professionals more focused?

I once wrote about a situation in Australia where a famous surgeon left surgical staples inside a patient's abdomen. When she complained about sharp pains every time she sat down, he wouldn't believe her. Eventually, she went to her GP and paid for an X-ray out of her own pocket. And lo and behold... there were the staples. It's the truth. The question is, if the surgeon forgot them, what were the nurses doing who are responsible for counting instruments? Their excuse is usually, "Oh, it's such a huge set, we don't count every single thing!"

On the flip side, I know patients who had major surgeries and then started drinking alcohol or using opiates. Patients can also be incredibly difficult, rude, and ungrateful.

You could go on forever blaming doctors when they aren't at fault, or blaming nurses who are often perfectly attentive and responsible. Sometimes, the patients themselves are the ones who are hard to stomach.
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
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joined Jan 2006
#26 ·
Jamie Clark74 kaže:


What exactly gives you the impression that I "don't know anything"?
As a father of two, I have to recount what my wife went through. Back in '63, she gave birth in Washington, D.C., at Knossos—and let’s just say the doctor on duty had clearly had one too many drinks. Because she was understandably overwhelmed by the labor, he failed to administer the local anesthetic properly. She ended up feeling every single stitch being pulled through her. To make matters worse, things tore and became infected, and they never actually stitched her back up. She was left with a permanent opening stretching from her vagina all the way to her anus.


I'm sorry—I don't quite follow you. 😕 Everything you just wrote up there...That’s exactly why you need to wrap your head around the fact that—believe it or not—stuff like this actually happens. Of all people, you’re the one who should actually have some empathy for this kind of thing... but honestly, I just can't wrap my head around your logic.
Instead of just giving me some half-hearted "Oh, that’s terrible, I know there are cases like that..." routine—or whatever other vague platitude you were going to toss my way—maybe try actually writing it out to me. Just a little bit of everything, I guess. Honestly, all that talk just drives me absolutely insane—it’s really just a polite, sanitized way of telling me I'm shitting myself.
Why on earth would she lie about that? I mean, seriously—what could possibly be the motive to misrepresent the facts like that? Man, have you even heard about that case from a few years back—you know, the one where a doctor actually killed 1.2 newborns belonging to one woman? It was all over the news. I bet if I brought that up to you now, you’d be the first one to say, "Oh, come on, he didn't kill anyone; they just died from complications," or some other nonsense like that. Why on earth would you jump to conclusions like that when you don't even know the facts?
Look, I have absolutely no interest in getting into a shouting match with you—really, I don't—but you simply don't have the right to tell me what happened that day. Period.
Regarding the anesthesia—look, she definitely received it, BUT it was as if it didn't even happen—because the stuff only actually kicked in at the very end, right in the middle of the uterine suturing. Ergo... they were essentially cutting her open while she was wide awake.
Honestly, comments like yours—the kind you just dropped—really get under my skin, because... You sound... Like some kind of cold-blooded sociopath. I really hope you aren't.

I could have easily replied to your post with a "Give me a break, that’s just not how it works—it's flat-out wrong. My god, people will post anything, won't they?" And then you'd probably tell me I shouldn't be offended? Please.
But then again, I suppose I'm just saying that... Never. I wouldn't dream of rushing into something this serious—not without thinking it through first.
If you scroll back up, you’ll see a comment right under my very first post—someone basically wrote, "Oh, please, she would have died from the pain... no way," or some variation of that. And honestly? That’s fine. I just gave them a polite little reality check by confirming that yes, it was absolutely true—that really happened.
And you—you're telling me I'm just being "random" or "all over the place"... typical.😠
Why wouldn't things like that happen? You’ve been around for ages—honestly, you should probably be the expert on just how much craziness there is in this world by now.Just because you and your wife went through some traumatic experiences during childbirth doesn't mean you're entitled to a free pass—or that you should be expected to have a heart about it.
I don't personally have any issues—maybe you’re the one dealing with them? I don't know... because honestly, looking at those two, it seems more likely. It’s just not happening. Together.
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2006
#27 ·
Justin Fox said:Jack Baker15's birth story sounds like some idiot decided to give her mother a drip—you know, those hormones used to speed up labor—right when she was supposed to be having a C-section. That obviously triggered an emergency, and then you have to wonder why they didn't get the anesthesia right in the first place. I mean, if they were incompetent enough to make a massive blunder like that from the jump, who knows what else those amateurs messed up.

Actually, let me tell you what really happened—I was due on April 8th, and my mom was just lying there peacefully, sleeping or whatever, when this doctor—who wasn't even her actual OB-GYN, mind you—shows up wanting to perform an exam. She knew perfectly well that you shouldn't even touch a woman about to go into labor, since it can trigger contractions and all that. She’d already had two C-sections, and they’d warned her that if she had another one, she could actually die because of the risk of uterine rupture. So, it was already a high-risk pregnancy.
Well, this doctor comes along, insists on examining her, and despite her begging him not to because she was terrified of exactly what happened... well, it happened.
Suddenly, she starts having contractions, and everyone panics because they know if her uterus ruptures, we're both dead. They were literally racing her down the hallway, rushing her into a room, and... well, you know the rest. There was simply no time; they had to get me out immediately. I was born on April 7th at 11:30 PM, covered in red spots, and they told us it was because I’d been struggling inside... I don't know, maybe I was suffocating or something.

Reading these other stories is just... honestly, it's horrific. The things people do to others... it breaks my heart to read this. And these people are completely innocent.
Jamie Clark74 listed off some of his own stories too... I have to ask, why bother? When he joined the thread, instead of just sharing his experience, he went straight to lecturing me about how it didn't happen that way.
Imagine how he'd feel if he had shared his story and someone treated him the way he treated me. I'm sure he wouldn't find it very funny...
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2006
#28 ·
Justin Fox said:Honestly, this whole thing about tying them down is just complete nonsense—something that deserves a full investigation or even a lawsuit. It’s basically like some drunk guy forcing someone to have a tooth pulled.

It makes no sense... sure. But how exactly would you suggest holding someone steady before you just rip them apart without any anesthesia? Are you going to politely ask them not to struggle?

That girl who had her tooth pulled was strapped to a chair... why isn't that weird to you? To me, it feels extremely bizarre and frankly horrific... but apparently not to you all. Maybe that's just how it's done nowadays. I'm sure it is.
electricpanther82 electricpanther82 MemberOP
15 messages
joined Jan 2006
#29 ·
Some pretty nasty stuff happens in our hospitals, mostly coming from the doctors and staff on duty. It’s weird, isn't it? Like, how does it work where a local anesthetic just doesn't touch one person, but works perfectly for someone else? Or maybe it just takes forever to kick in?
🙂 Is it just down to how an individual's body reacts? OR IS IT POSSIBLE SOMEONE JUST DOESN'T GIVE THE RIGHT DOSE DUE TO NEGLIGENCE?
👎
electricpanther82 electricpanther82 MemberOP
15 messages
joined Jan 2006
#30 ·
I’ve heard from quite a few women that getting a curettage is actually way worse than giving birth. Apparently, when they only use local anesthesia instead of going under, the pain is just brutal.
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2004
#31 ·
electricpanther82 said:Terrible things happen in our hospitals at the hands of doctors and staff. How is it possible that a local anesthetic doesn't work for one person, but works perfectly for someone else? Or why does it only start working much later?
🙂 Does it depend on the body? OR IS IT POSSIBLE SOMEONE JUST DOESN'T GIVE THE RIGHT DOSE DUE TO NEGLIGENCE?
👎

I’ve had local anesthesia many times... and most of the time it just doesn't work for me. I can feel everything.
It's the same with shots at the dentist; even two or three won't touch it. But I have issues others don't deal with. I was once on such high doses of Codeine that I was able to keep working for 25 years... so my system is pretty much thrown off balance.

Generally speaking, I think I have a high tolerance, but there’s a limit to everything.

Back when I was an older medical student, I studied for 18 months and spent six months in a pain clinic. Since then, they’ve actually used my case as a textbook example of how chronic pain management can go right or wrong.

Every person is different regarding how intense the pain is. As for local injections,
I’m a bigger guy—not just in weight, but in build—so I practically need double the dosage of any medication.

For example, 34 years ago, we used to travel497 miles to see specialists. I used to get massive headaches and could take 25-30 mg of Valium during the day and still drive there and back the same day... whereas my wife would be out cold after just 5 mg.

I also get steroid injections in my joints because of musculoskeletal injuries,
like bursitis and tears. Injections aren't an issue; sometimes I take two or three at once, though my doctor warned me that's too much steroid for one sitting.

Some of us live with chronic pain 24/7 and there's just no relief. You manage for a few months, then you hit a point where you feel suicidal... and then you just keep going. It's a cycle.

🙂 😉 😎
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2004
#32 ·

@Jack Baker15
Just because you and your wife dealt with some birth trauma doesn't mean you get a free pass on empathy.
I don't have any personal issues here; maybe you're the one struggling... I don't know... those two things rarely go hand in hand.
yesterday 17:32 =====================

A little more context on why I'm so confused!
You're still relatively new here, so take a look at the link. You'll see everything I've posted or attached—my actual medical records, my full name, even my address. That's why I stopped sharing my personal struggles; I don't want to bother anyone. People seem more interested in gossiping about minor details anyway. Just check out the thread on asbestosis.

Jamie Clark74's threads!

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Jamie Clark74 says:
Re:dermatitis,

It feels a bit awkward to bring this up, but it’s important, and I've touched on it many times in other discussions.

I always go with my wife, especially when we visit 249 miles /the gynecologist,
specialists... My wife is 68 now, and she's been dealing with constant vaginal inflammation for 35 years. They tried every cream imaginable until an experienced old GP finally said, "You have dermatitis," and referred her to
a dermatologist whom we still see every three to six months.

He prescribes three different creams... she mixes them and applies them "very thinly" every other day to the labia, and once a week she uses a special cream from a tube deeper inside.

As her partner of 43 years, I know exactly how much she's endured with the itching, burning, and discomfort. Today, her skin is so sensitive that we haven't had intercourse for quite some time... it's just too delicate.
If they had correctly identified it as "dermatitis" right at the start, things might be different today. I remember one specialist—a gynecologist who focused on women with thin skin—showing a student through a magnifying glass how the skin looks after unintentional scratching and the damage caused by various creams that thinned the tissue.

Sorry to pivot to something else, but I always try to share experiences if I can. Even if it isn't my own, if it helps just one person, it's worth it.
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Leonessa says:
Jamie Clark74, I think you've mostly been on the forum... 🙂
Generally, I stick to herbal remedies because—even if they don't work wonders—they won't make things worse. So, I highly recommend them to everyone.
Today, I made some chamomile powder, and it's

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Jack Baker15, cheers 😘 🙂 😉 😎
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2006
#33 ·
Jamie Clark74, you’ve lost it 😢
Either answer me directly—and maybe find some backbone to admit you were totally out of line—or just shut up.
But no, of course you can't do that. Instead, you feel the need to go into exhaustive detail about your wife's gynecological issues.😕 😕 😕
I honestly really don't get you, and frankly, I have zero interest in trying. You're just a drain on my energy.
By the way—when I said "you have no clue," I didn't mean you lacked experience; I meant you have absolutely no idea what *my* situation is actually like.
It's honestly pretty strange to see someone your age acting this way.👎
Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
110 messages
joined Jan 2006
#34 ·
Jack Baker15 said:.. some doctor showed up (who wasn't even her gynecologist) and wanted to examine her... he kept insisting on doing it, even though she was begging him not to... so now she's starting to experience contractions.

Jack Baker15, my heart breaks hearing this too. Especially the part where she begged the doctor not to touch her, yet he pushed through anyway without any valid reason and caused all this trouble. It's just wrong.😠

That’s why you shouldn't just plead; you need to lead with threats of lawsuits, reporting them, or whatever it takes to scare them off immediately. It’s awkward enough when patients are intoxicated or difficult, but doctors are paid to care for patients. They exist for us, not the other way around. At least, that's how it ought to work. If you can prove a physician violated patient rights, then go for the lawsuit, the disciplinary board, the fines, the termination—anything. That would be the standard. I don't care how "hard" their jobs are. If they don't like it, they can quit; there are plenty of others who would be happy to take their place.

I have an idea: hospitals should install cameras. Everything should be recorded, especially surgeries and treatments involving pregnant women. If anyone has a grievance, there would be documentation for everything. I'm certain that would drastically change the behavior of any unprofessional staff.👍

An alternative: always bring a husband, a wife, a brother, or someone else to act as a witness and stand up for the patient's rights if necessary. It might be impractical for long stays, but it should work—assuming they don't kick you out for being a "nuisance," while the nurse screaming at a sick person somehow isn't considered one.
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2006
#35 ·
Justin Fox, I’m with you on this one! 👍 😁
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
170 messages
joined Sep 2005
#36 ·
Justin Fox said:we should install cameras in hospitals so everything gets recorded, especially surgeries and maternity care

Oh sure, why stop there? Let's just set up a 24/7 live stream for every single operating room in America...

I guess we’d also need to film professors in their lecture halls to monitor their teaching, construction crews building bridges so we can see exactly where they messed up the concrete, or sanitation workers leaving trash on the curb... you get the idea. It's endless. 🙂

Look, I agree that certain things need to change... but this isn't the way to do it. 😳
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2004
#37 ·
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Jack Baker15 said:Jamie Clark74, you're out of your mind.
Either answer what I actually asked you—and have the guts to admit you were wrong to lecture me—or just be quiet.
But no, you just have to go into exhaustive detail about your wife's gynecological issues.😕 😕 😕
I honestly really don't get you, and frankly, I don't want to. You're just a drain on my energy.
By the way, when I said "you have no idea," I didn't mean you lacked experience—I meant you have NO IDEA what my specific situation is like.
It's pretty strange for someone your age to act this way.👎

What can I say? The man's lost it!
😘 🙂 😉 😎
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2004
#38 ·
My grandsons were all born in the delivery room right alongside my sons.
Two of them arrived via C-section. The guys took the babies immediately to cut the cords and give them their first bath so I wouldn't have to deal with the mess. I'll share some photos soon—starting with the oldest. It’s been 18 years now... back in 1988 in Pittsburgh USA.

The oldest grandson is 18, then there's the 13 and 12-year-old boys, and a little girl who’ll be 4 soon.

http://au.geocities.com/vilimkov/dariodelivery1988.jpg

Best, Jack Baker15
Jamie Clark74

😘 😉 😎 🙂
Jack Baker15 Jack Baker15 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2006
#39 ·
Jamie Clark74 said:hey Jack Baker15
crazy Jamie Clark74

😘 😉 😎 🙂

don't even bother greeting me 🙄 👎
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
278 messages
joined Sep 2004
#40 ·
Jack Baker15 said:don't even bother greeting me🙄 👎

Alright, I'll agree with you—I am crazy!
Hopefully, that makes you feel better now.
Old school rule: if someone punches you in the face, just offer them the other cheek so they can finish the job!
Always stay polite, no matter what.

😘 🙂 😉 😎

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