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Fatty liver concerns? (Megathread - LOCKED)

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Participants John MitchellGerald Kern77nimbleskipper13Betty Bennett10northernskipper41Melissa Cruz2Frank Alvarez8Acrimsonorca12analogsailor10Kenneth Hernandez67Anthony Harris14
John Mitchell John Mitchell MemberOP
10 messages
joined Dec 2004
#1 ·
So I just went in for my annual physical, you know, the whole head-to-toe checkup
and then the doctor doing my liver and kidney ultrasound goes:
"Your liver looks a little fatty..."

Like, wtf does that even mean?

My blood work came back totally fine, except maybe my cholesterol is a tiny bit high
but it's not like I have hepatitis or anything crazy

And honestly, the cholesterol thing makes zero sense to me because I don't have weight issues at all—if anything, I’m kind of skinny. I don't eat greasy food either; I'm all about that healthy Mediterranean vibe. And I barely drink—just the occasional glass of wine with dinner or a beer when I'm out with friends.

Anyway, I hit up CVS today and picked up some artichoke capsules😁 the box says they help support liver, gallbladder, and stomach function

Has anyone else dealt with this "slightly fatty" liver stuff?
I'm feeling pretty confused 😕
Gerald Kern77 Gerald Kern77 Active Member
56 messages
joined Dec 2011
#2 ·
I can’t speak to fatty liver—I'm hardly a medical professional—but when it comes to cholesterol, I’m in the same boat. My levels are high, despite the fact that I’m certainly not overweight, I exercise regularly, and I avoid greasy foods entirely. According to my doctors, excessive caffeine intake and stress itself can drive those numbers up. As for how one actually avoids it... well, nobody seems to have an answer for that.
John Mitchell John Mitchell MemberOP
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joined Dec 2004
#3 ·
Gerald Kern77 said:Doctors are out here claiming high cholesterol might just be from drinking too much coffee and dealing with all this stress. But honestly? Nobody actually knows how to fix it!

Yeah, I heard that too. My stress levels have been through the roof lately—but then again, who isn't totally stressed out these days?

Has anyone actually tried that artichoke therapy thing before?
nimbleskipper13 nimbleskipper13 Member
34 messages
joined Feb 2005
#4 ·
High cholesterol and triglyceride levels aren't always about what you eat or your weight; genetics plays a huge role too.
If those numbers go up while your HDL—the "good" protective fraction—goes down, the risk for cardiovascular disease increases significantly...

I know plenty of thin people who struggle with high cholesterol.
It’s definitely worth getting your blood pressure, heart health, and vascular system checked out. 😎
Betty Bennett10 Betty Bennett10 Active Member
92 messages
joined May 2005
#5 ·
Maybe you've just had a little too much 😛 😁
John Mitchell John Mitchell MemberOP
10 messages
joined Dec 2004
#6 ·
Betty Bennett10 said:Maybe you're just feeling it from all that 😛 😁

Nah, pretty sure it's just from having like two light beers a week 🙄
Gerald Kern77 Gerald Kern77 Active Member
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joined Dec 2011
#7 ·
nimbleskipper13 said:High cholesterol and triglyceride levels aren't always about diet or weight—genetics plays a massive role here too.
If those numbers go up while your HDL fraction (the "good" kind) drops, the risk for cardiovascular issues climbs significantly...

There are plenty of thin people out there dealing with high cholesterol.
It wouldn't hurt to get your blood pressure, heart, and vascular system checked out. 😎

Thanks, nimbleskipper13!
As of now—mid-40s—my blood pressure is still low (unless the stress at work pushes it up)—heart seems fine, and I'll look into a vascular screening—perks of having decent health insurance! If only I could kick the nicotine habit... perhaps then my cholesterol would behave. 🙂
John Mitchell John Mitchell MemberOP
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joined Dec 2004
#8 ·
nimbleskipper13 said:Man, you see so many skinny people dealing with high cholesterol these days. It’s wild.
Gotta check that blood pressure, you know? Heart and circulation... definitely shouldn't sleep on that. 😎

Man, my blood pressure is always way too low. Been dealing with that anemia since I was a kid, honestly.
Heart's doing fine. They even ran an EKG on me. 🙂

And that whole thing with genetics? Yeah, honestly, could be a factor too.
My late grandma was tiny, like barely 90 pounds, but man, her heart issues were brutal and her cholesterol was through the roof. 😢

Yeah, I still smoke—about 15 a day, maybe more on the weekends—but I’m gonna quit for good. Just haven't made that final call yet. 😢
Betty Bennett10 Betty Bennett10 Active Member
92 messages
joined May 2005
#9 ·
A couple of light beers, a glass of wine—honestly, you could really pile it on if you wanted to 😛

I’m just messing around, though; I had some elevated amylase levels once and became completely obsessed with the idea that I was developing fatty liver disease, even though I don't actually have it. I remember spending way too many hours spiraling down a Google rabbit hole about it 🙄
John Mitchell John Mitchell MemberOP
10 messages
joined Dec 2004
#10 ·
Oh man, I just went down a Google rabbit hole and holy crap: fatty liver

Thank goodness it says here that if it’s just in the early stages (my doctor said mine is only slightly fatty and my blood work looks totally fine), you can actually get back to 100% in maybe 5 to 8 weeks with the right diet

That means no more booze and watching my meds too

There is zero chance I'm having even a glass of wine after lunch anymore. Plus, I probably need to put on a few pounds since this thing says it hits people who are underweight harder... 😢
northernskipper41 northernskipper41 Member
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joined Nov 2005
#11 ·
Gerald Kern77 said:Thanks, nimbleskipper13!
If I could just kick this nicotine habit... maybe my cholesterol wouldn't be such a disaster. 🙂

Not necessarily. You should probably check if it's genetic—that's actually pretty common with all those different types of disorders out there.

The junk in cigarettes wrecks your blood vessels, which basically just gives the cholesterol a head start on trashing your heart.

Try tackling it with diet and exercise first, though you might be looking at medication too.
northernskipper41 northernskipper41 Member
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joined Nov 2005
#12 ·
John Mitchell said:No way I'm touching even a single glass of wine after lunch. Plus, I'd probably put on a few pounds. It says right here that this stuff is dangerous for people who are already underweight... 😢

If you aren't getting enough carbs—which the body turns into glucose and stores as glycogen, basically the fuel for your brain and nerves—
the body tries to protect its precious glucose supply by tapping into fat stores, forcing tissues to switch over to using fat for energy instead.

The whole system for mobilizing fat isn't exactly fine-tuned. You end up with fatty acids flooding the liver. When you mix that with alcohol and meds—which are basically toxins the liver has to detoxify—it’s a recipe for cell damage. The liver is already drowning in fat droplets stuffed into its cells as it is.
Melissa Cruz2 Melissa Cruz2 Active Member
85 messages
joined Nov 2007
#13 ·
It honestly feels like everyone is walking around with sky-high cholesterol lately. Makes me wonder if those reference ranges in the lab reports are just rigged to keep us buying more prescriptions...
northernskipper41 northernskipper41 Member
24 messages
joined Nov 2005
#14 ·
Melissa Cruz2 said:feels like everyone’s cholesterol is through the roof lately. you think they just set the standard levels high enough to force us all onto more meds?

not everyone, just
high. if you eat right and actually stay active, it should stay within the normal range
that's how you bring it down

if it's still spiking past the limits, you're probably looking at genetics. you gotta check your family history (atherosclerosis, heart attacks) because there's definitely a hereditary link to chronic cardiovascular disease
especially if you've got high triglycerides mixed in too
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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joined Jun 2005
#15 ·
Melissa Cruz2 said:It feels like everyone’s cholesterol is through the roof lately. Are these medical guidelines just designed to push more prescriptions on us?

In the US, the standard threshold is around 200 mg/dL, but doctors don't usually call it "high" until you hit those much higher levels. That middle range is really more of a yellow light—a signal to tighten up the diet and lifestyle habits rather than an immediate mandate for pills.

You see plenty of overweight people with perfectly fine numbers, and some very thin people with sky-high levels that diet alone won't fix.
But deciding if someone actually needs medication involves a lot more than one number. You can't just judge based on a single reading. Doctors need to look at HDL, LDL, triglycerides, and even lipoprotein profiling before making that call.
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#16 ·
I’ve heard that eating too many processed carbs and white flour can actually lead to fatty liver.
crimsonorca12 crimsonorca12 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2005
#17 ·
Melissa Cruz2 said:It feels like everyone’s cholesterol is through the roof lately. I wonder if those target ranges are just rigged to push more prescriptions on us.

Bingo.😁

Every time they update the guidelines, the "healthy" threshold drops lower. It's like they want everyone on statins before they even hit middle age.

We actually did blood work for all our staff at the clinic recently, trying to assemble a control group of healthy subjects for a study... and honestly, it was a disaster. More than half were flagged as overweight.😁

And then there's the genetic component. There are plenty of identified gene mutations that drive up cholesterol even in people who stay lean and eat perfectly clean.

I'm not suggesting we all go on a fast food binge and become walking heart attacks, but an elevation above 220 mg/dL doesn't necessarily mean you need to start popping pills immediately.

As for the fatty liver stuff... how was that even diagnosed? If a doctor is just assuming you have a fatty liver solely because your cholesterol is high, then I think... 🙄
John Mitchell John Mitchell MemberOP
10 messages
joined Dec 2004
#18 ·
crimsonorca12 said:Wait, how did they even find out about the fatty liver? Like, what kind of test was that? If the doctor just took one look at your cholesterol levels and decided you have fatty liver, then I'm thinking... 🙄

I already mentioned in my first post that I was hanging out with the U.S. Navy.

So, here’s what the radiologist wrote in the report:
Liver looks good! Size is normal, edges are smooth, and the tissue shows some mild brightness, but nothing suspicious going on. All clear!

So, that’s how he wrapped it up—honestly, he just stared dead at his monitor and told me right then.

As for my blood work—liver enzymes came back totally normal. Good news!

So my LDL hit 3.6, but the lab says it needs to be under 3. Total bummer.
My HDL is sitting at 1.6, but my lab report says anything up to 1.2 is considered "normal." Anyone else seen weird numbers like this?

Wait, I'm a little confused... you guys are all saying a normal cholesterol level is up to 5?
analogsailor10 analogsailor10 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2005
#19 ·
An LDL level of 3.6 isn't actually that high; generally, you want to see total cholesterol stay under 200 mg/dL. My doctors used to insist that stress and cholesterol levels had absolutely nothing to do with each other, but if you ask me, my numbers are driven by two things and two things only: stress and cigarettes. I’m at a healthy weight, I’ve never been one for greasy fast food, and there’s zero history of heart issues in my family. Honestly, my only "vice" was having a bit too much chocolate and sweets now and then. It was wild, though—my cholesterol plummeted the moment I quit smoking, but as soon as I picked up the habit again, the numbers spiked right back up, even though I was being incredibly careful about what I ate.
Kenneth Hernandez67 Kenneth Hernandez67 Regular
351 messages
joined May 2005
#20 ·
It’s interesting to observe how biology doesn't always follow the script. In my immediate workplace, I know two people who are incredibly lean—they eat perfectly balanced meals and don't touch a drop of alcohol—yet their cholesterol levels are through the roof. It isn't just a guess, either; it's been confirmed by specialists at Mayo Clinic.

On the flip side, we have several noticeably overweight individuals who live on junk food and drink excessively, yet their lab results come back looking like they belong to healthy infants.😁

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