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Secrets of Eastern Medicine: Health Philosophy

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Participants Amy Fox97Lisa Ortiz17dustybison15mistybear4northernfalcon30Samuel Lewis3darkcanyon13Anthony Rodriguez58Joseph Lee3Hannah Davis18Megan Morales5Ajadesailor14Frank Alvarez8Peter Taylor63rustymoose54
dustybison15 dustybison15 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Oct 2005
#41 ·
I didn't grow up in China,
so I'm not Chinese...

Comments like this just prove how superficial some people are—how they'll argue about things they clearly don't understand at all...

If it weren't so pathetic, it would actually be funny...

👋
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active Member
93 messages
joined Sep 2006
#42 ·
jadesailor14 said:I was actually going to weigh in with something intelligent here.
But I can't.
Got a massive headache.
Plus, my order of Herbalife powder from Amazon hasn't even arrived yet.
Might as well add a shovel to the cart while I'm at it.
Gotta have something to dig my way to the spring.

Drink some water. Maybe you'll feel better.👋
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#43 ·
Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Just drink a few glasses of water, you'll feel better.👋

I don't have that problem! I've always been a big water drinker—I usually knock back at least 3 liters a day.
If only all our problems were that easy to fix!
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active Member
93 messages
joined Sep 2006
#44 ·
I guess I started looking into healthy eating and alternative medicine after getting pretty fed up with my doctors.

For instance: I had this back pain after sleeping on some cheap mattress the newlyweds rented out for guests while I was at a wedding on a coastal island.

I went to the doctor and explained everything, but he just looked at me like I was talking nonsense. He insisted it was my kidneys and sent me for an ultrasound. Of course, the results showed absolutely nothing.
So, the doctor just handed me some painkillers and sent me home.

Eventually, I took it upon myself to see a chiropractor, and with just one adjustment, they fixed the back pain that had been bothering me for a year.

Another example: my husband dealt with stomach issues for six years. Sometimes the pain was so intense he thought he was actually dying. He saw doctor after doctor during those six years, and all they did was cycle through different pills—they helped temporarily, sure, but they never actually addressed the root cause.

In the end, I took him to a specialist who practices Chinese medicine and acupuncture. She immediately ran food sensitivity tests to figure out exactly which foods were triggering his symptoms so we could cut them out.
She prescribed herbal enzymes to help his digestion, since food would often sit in his stomach for hours.
She also put him on vitamins, fish oil, and probiotics.
He went in for acupuncture once a week.

Slowly but surely, all his symptoms faded away, and his overall health improved.

I ended up seeing the same doctor myself. I did the same testing and started taking vitamins and other supplements, and my health improved too.
I've been on this new diet for six months now, along with vitamins and fish oil, and I haven't caught a single cold. My mood is great and my energy is high, whereas before, I was catching colds almost every month, feeling irritable, and constantly exhausted.

So, I have plenty of good reasons to believe in this; I've seen the results firsthand.
If you don't want to believe it, that's fine.👋
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#45 ·
Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Look, I have plenty of good reasons to believe this, mostly because I’ve seen it play out firsthand in my own life.
If you don't want to buy it, that's on you. 👋

👍 😉
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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joined Nov 2007
#46 ·
mistybear4 said:what a pathetic crowd we are, I can't even believe this... 😠

I was just waiting for some self-proclaimed genius to show up and start lecturing people on things they don't understand. Look, I don't know everything either, but if you're actually interested, you try to focus and learn something new. Otherwise, forget it—just move on and only comment when you actually have something valuable to contribute. That seems to be the struggle for most people here; it's much easier to get attention by being loud and obnoxious than by writing something actually thoughtful. 👎

It’s been the same story since I joined this forum years ago.

at the end of the day, even if "Amy Fox97" started peddling some "snake oil products meant to boost everything under the sun," I wouldn't hold it against her if it actually helped someone. After all, this forum is supposed to be about health, right?

I don't rely on this little forum. I have about 400 clients of my own generating up to $10,000 a month in revenue, so a few bucks from someone on this board doesn't mean anything to me. But some people are hell-bent on twisting my suggestions into something negative. I've stopped paying much attention to that kind of sabotage, and I find myself posting here less and less. Still, credit where it's due—there are some good people here.

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Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
32 messages
joined Dec 2004
#47 ·
Anthony Rodriguez58 said:So my doctor just handed me some painkillers and sent me on my way.

I guess that's how most doctors handle things, though. They just mask the symptoms instead of actually fixing what's wrong. 👎 👎 👎 👎
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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joined Nov 2007
#48 ·
When Jin and Jang interact and evolve together, they generate the most refined energy flows—the life force known as Chi. Chi surrounds us and lives within us, constantly shifting in accordance with the laws of nature. Without this energetic harmony, true health is impossible.

There is a distinction between external and internal Chi. We take in external Chi through breathing, which then partially transforms into our internal supply.

The primary forms of Chi within the human body include:
-Juan Chi: This is the fundamental Chi, as it drives all the body's vital activities.
-Cun Chi: Produced in the chest through the air we breathe and the nutrients processed by the spleen.
-In Chi: Located within the blood vessels.
-Vej Chi: Found outside the blood vessels, representing the body's external defensive forces.
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
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joined Nov 2007
#49 ·
Peter Taylor63 said:Unfortunately, that’s how most doctors handle things. They just mask the symptoms instead of actually digging for the root cause. 👎 👎 👎 👎

IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE CAUSE, THE CONSEQUENCES WILL EVENTUALLY KILL YOU!

Most MDs don't even attempt to solve the underlying issues; they just try to dull the surface pain or suppress the outward symptom to push you back into a subchronic state where you feel terrible, yet since they can't find a specific diagnosis, their logic is basically, "if the tests are clear, you're fine."
😢 😠

True health isn't just the absence of a clinical diagnosis—it’s much more than that. You're only truly healthy when you actually feel good and look like you do. 🙂
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#50 ·
Amy Fox97 said:... It seems like there's this constant effort to twist my intentions and make them look as bad as possible. I’ve mostly stopped paying attention to those little attempts at sabotage, which is why I find myself posting on this forum less and less. Still, you have to give credit where it's due—there are still some decent people in here.

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I've seen that firsthand myself, though I always operated under the assumption that the whole point of a forum like this was to swap experiences and insights to help people navigate their own health struggles.. 😢 😕
Samuel Lewis3 Samuel Lewis3 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2006
#51 ·
Amy Fox97 said:...
- The "inner" part lives right inside your blood vessels.
- The "outer" part stays outside those vessels and acts as the body's frontline defense system.

Wait, can I ask a quick question? What exactly are blood vessels? Is that some kind of legal term or something?
Joseph Lee3 Joseph Lee3 Active Member
113 messages
joined May 2005
#52 ·
haha, I’m pretty sure Jay-Z actually meant "bloody paddles"... you know, like the ones used in water sports, not legal courts...🙂
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
43 messages
joined Jun 2005
#53 ·
blood levels 😂 😂 😂

I'd go with the ranges 😵
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#54 ·
Back in the States, we’d just call it a cheapskate 😛

like trying to find a gourmet meal in the middle of the Rockies
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
65 messages
joined Nov 2007
#55 ·
Studying meridians (channels) is a cornerstone of Eastern medicine, deeply intertwined with the study of life energy, known as Qi. In ancient times, observers noticed that certain spots on a sick person's body would feel painful when pressed. By working on these specific areas, they could actually improve a patient's condition and aid healing. Practitioners from the star east believed that piercing the skin at these points created an exit for pathogenic principles within the body, which could then be neutralized by heat.

Eventually, a pattern emerged regarding these points; they were arranged along lines called meridians or channels. It was later discovered that these points and channels correspond to the body's major internal organs. Originally, there were ten channels corresponding to five "Zang" organs, five "Fu" organs, and five primary organs. As medical understanding grew, it became clear that not all physiological functions fit into those original categories. This led to the concept of the Triple Burner and Pericardium meridians, which help unify all other bodily functions.

Eastern medicine identifies twelve distinct systems within the human body that perform twelve fundamental physiological functions. These are known as meridians.

Each meridian is named after the organ that dictates its function. Following the theory of Jin-Jang, these meridians form six pairs.

Our bodies possess a unique channel system that links the surface to the interior, the upper body to the lower, and connects all hollow and solid organs. Twelve channels bridge the superficial and internal parts of the body. The twelve main meridians align with the five-element system. Based on Jin-Jang theory, the state of any meridian can be described as either excessive or deficient. This shows up both in how the organ system functions and in the meridian's ability to conduct energy as a channel.

When an organ's function stays within normal limits—meaning it's in balance—energy flows through its corresponding channel without obstruction, following a daily rhythm. However, if the function is disrupted, the meridian becomes "blocked." The flow of energy is interrupted, making the body susceptible to illness, and the muscle groups the channel passes through can become tense, further hindering energy flow.

On the flip side, if we improve the condition of a channel, we restore a normal flow of energy. By doing this, we can directly influence the physiological system the meridian serves. Energy moves through these meridians in sync with a daily cycle. Every two hours, energy reaches its peak in specific meridians. During these windows, the corresponding physiological system is most active, and that specific meridian is most sensitive to external influence.

Internal energy flows through the twelve primary meridians. This circulation begins with the lung meridian and proceeds sequentially through all twelve. All these channels are interconnected by the alternating passage of vital Qi energy.

Meridians manage the movement of blood and vital Qi, maintaining Jin-Jang harmony, revitalizing muscles and bones, and supporting joint mobility. They act as a transport for energy from internal organs to the body's outer layer, allowing internal signals of illness to reach the surface.
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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joined Nov 2007
#56 ·
1. Lung Channel (3-4h)
Disease symptoms:
1. unhealthy hair (brittle, darkening, thinning).
2. frequent hiccups;
3. yawning
4. drowsiness
5. coughing
6. fever

Excess CHI:
1. fever
2. heavy coughing with pain
3. mucus
4. shoulder and scapula pain
5. hot palms
6. sweating
7. blood rushing to the head
8. reduced lung capacity
9. pneumonia
10. bronchial asthma

Deficient CHI:
1. chills
2. sneezing
3. insomnia
4. frequent yawning
5. wet cough
6. feeling cold or rubbing hands together
7. itchy skin
8. dizziness
9. dry throat
10. facial discoloration
11. occasional clavicle pain

2. Large Intestine Channel (5-7)
Disease symptoms:
1. gas
2. loose stools
3. abdominal pain
4. bad breath
5. hemorrhoids
6. memory impairment
7. large intestine mucosal defects

Excess CHI:
1. intestinal cramping
2. dry mouth
3. constipation
4. abdominal pain and bloating
5. headaches and finger pain
6. warm skin
7. all symptoms worsen in heat

Deficient CHI:
1. subtle aches in hands and shoulders
2. dizziness
3. diarrhea, less frequent constipation.
4. rash and itching in the back of the throat
5. cold body
6. weak hands
7. stomach cramping
8. almost all symptoms triggered by heat
9. coughing fits

3. Stomach Channels (7-9h)
Disease symptoms:
1. appetite disturbances
2. stomach area pain
3. headaches
4. temperature fluctuations
5. nervous stomach issues

Excess CHI:
1. increased appetite
2. fever and body heat
3. cramping pains on the outer legs
4. high acid levels
5. increased irritability
6. constipation
7. burping
8. bloating
9. stomach pain and spasms
10. chapped lips
11. itching

Deficient CHI:
1. loss of appetite
2. leg weakness and quick fatigue
3. low acid levels
4. gas
5. diarrhea
6. lethargy and depression
7. drooping eyelids
8. swollen throat mucosa
9. slow digestion
10. cramping in the small intestine and stomach

4. Spleen and Pancreas Channel (9-11h)
Disease symptoms:
1. drowsiness
2. poor memory
3. loss of consciousness
4. weak legs
5. brain fog/exhaustion
6. sugar cravings
8. connective tissue defects

Excess CHI:
1. fluctuating appetite
2. feeling of heaviness in the body
3. fatigue
4. mucosal dryness
5. rashes without itching
6. nausea
7. burping
8. constipation
9. frequent food poisoning
10. heaviness in the rib area
11. feeling tired
12. joint and foot pain
13. big toe pain

Deficient CHI:
1. craving sweets
2. poor memory
3. sleepiness
4. gas
5. leg numbness
6. frequent large stools
7. diarrhea
8. vomiting
9. intense pain below the stomach and around the waist
10. leg weakness
11. varicose veins

5. Heart Channel (11-13h)
Disease symptoms:
1. bloodshot eyes (burst capillaries)
2. dark, puffy under-eye circles
3. skin defects on nose and forehead
4. redness under the armpits
5. rapid speech
6. fear of public speaking
7. fear of heights
8. strenuous manual hand work
9. anxiety or fear
10. shyness and subjective mental exhaustion

Excess CHI:
1. unexplained sadness
2. chest heaviness
3. intermittent fever
4. dry mouth during fever
5. heart pain
6. forearm pain
7. bright red tongue
8. flushed face
9. increased irritability
10. heavy limbs

Deficient CHI:
1. indecisiveness
2. limpness/weakness
3. pale face
4. sweating
5. tachycardia (rapid heartbeat)
6. Shortness of breath during light physical activity
7. Pale tongue
8. Coldness and numbness on the surface of the shoulder
9. Dizziness

6. Small Intestine Meridian (1-3 PM)
Symptoms of imbalance:
1. Inability to turn the head 180 degrees (shoulder to shoulder)
2. Double chin
3. Dull pain in the forearm
4. Neck stiffness
5. Mouth sores or ulcers on the lips
6. Occasional chest heaviness or sharp pain
7. Feeling of heat
8. Sweating

Excess Jin-Jang:
1. Pain around the neck
2. Migraines
3. Tinnitus or ringing in the ears
4. Pain in the neck and nape
5. Pain around the navel
6. Lower abdominal pain
7. Pain around the shoulder blades
8. Constipation

Deficient Jin-Jang:
1. Temple pain
2. Side of the neck pain
3. Forearm pain
4. Dry, irritated skin
5. Swelling in the lower jaw or sometimes the neck
6. Hearing loss
7. Being underweight
8. Nausea, occasionally vomiting or diarrhea
9. Weakness and cold limbs
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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#57 ·
7. Bladder meridian (3–5 PM)
Symptoms of the illness:
Pain in the back of my neck.
2, back pain.
Neck pain. It’s hitting me right now.
4. ankle pain
5. shoulder pain
Upper jaw pain.
Vision impairment: nearsightedness.
8. squinting eyes
Itchy eyes.
10. Increased sensitivity to cold and wind.
The 11th dream.
The 12th psychological imbalance.
13. Crying spells
14. hemorrhoids
Heavy nasal discharge and watery eyes.

Excess Qi:
Frequent, painful bleeding accompanied by very little urine.
Foot, ankle, and arch pain.
Lower back pain.
4. Excessive narrowing.
5. eye pain
6. Runny nose.

Juan Chi:
Frequent, heavy urges to urinate, but only a little comes out.
Pain running all the way down my spine.
Swelling of the genitals.
4. vision deterioration.
Muscle weakness in the back of the neck.
6. Heaviness in my legs and back.
7. vertigo
Low mobility in the pinky toes.
9. Hemorrhoids.

8. Kidney Channel (5-7 PM)
Symptoms of the illness:
Sweating after a meal:
Second bout of insomnia.
3. Yawning
4. islands
5. Bloating.

Excessive Chi:
Bloating.
2. islands
Dark brown urine.
4. bedwetting
5. Lack of desire to communicate.
6. Sudden spikes in energy consumption.
7. Inability to wrap things up on schedule.
Ever feel like you need a nap immediately after eating? That sudden post-meal slump is real.
9. That heavy feeling throughout your entire body.
Heavy, warm feet.
Lower back pain, hip aches, and inner thigh soreness.
12. Dry mouth.
13. Feeling nauseous.
14. Increased potential.

Juan Chi:
Shyness, suspicion, and a lack of willpower.
2. Groaning
3. Yawning
4. Nighttime snoring.
5. early morning insomnia.
Waking up early in the morning.
7. Sweating
Small intestine disorders.
9. Reduced power.
Ten ways to fix freezing feet.
11. Tinnitus.

9. Pericardial, circulatory, and reproductive channels (7:00 PM – 9:00 PM)
Disease symptoms:
Feeling less than enough.
Laughing all the time for no reason.
3. Red Face
4. Warm palms.
5. swollen lymph nodes under the armpit.
6. Bad breath.
7. A heavy heart.
8. Feeling fatigued quickly.
9. Outbursts of rage over nothing.

Excessive Qi:
Head feels heavy and hot.
Stomach pains.
3. light sleep
4. Redness in the whites of the eyes.
5. prison
Hand and fist pain.
Chest pains.
8. vulnerability
9. Irritability

Juan Chi
Deep sleep.
2. Suffocation
Altitude sickness.
4. Vertigo
One minute I'm locked up, the next I've got the runs.
A lack of desire to walk.
Depression and quick fatigue.
8. Heart palpitations.
9. Arm weakness.
Yellowing sclera.

10. The triple heater channel: three stages of heat generation (21-23)
Symptoms of the illness.
Cold intolerance.
2. Inability to bend or straighten arms at the elbows.
Sharp chest pains.
4. Mental clutter.
5. Weird dreams.
6. Pain in the hips and teeth.
7. involuntary teeth grinding
8. Throat Island
9. Dry mouth.
10. Loss of appetite

Excess Chi:
Upper limb pain.
Right elbow pain.
3. Ear pain and ringing.
4. Poor heat tolerance.
5. Facial redness.
6. Loss of appetite.
7th sleepless night.
8. Irritability
9. Skin feels warm or hot to the touch.
10. Hearing loss.

Juan Chi
Headaches near the temple.
2. body tremors
3. weakness
4. numbness, weakness in the hands.
5. pale complexion
6. Cold intolerance.
7. Feeling fatigued quickly.
8. sadness, melancholy.
9. Skin feels cold to the touch.

11. Gallbladder Duct (11 PM)
Symptoms of the illness.
Pale face.
Heartburn in the mouth.
Pain in the upper right side of the abdomen.
4. Lower back pain.
5. Heart pains.
Pain and pressure in my head and jaw.
7. warm feet
8. tremors
9. Sweating
10. Swollen lymph nodes under the armpit
11. Aches in the thighs, knees, and joints.

Excessive Chi:
1. Feeling overly full after eating
2. Heaviness in the head
3. Leg cramps and pains
4. Night terrors
5. Acid reflux or bitter taste in the mouth
6. Nausea
7. Swelling in the neck, cheeks, or jawline
8. Sore throat
9. Insomnia
10. Hot feet
11. Occasional vomiting bile

Deficient Chi:
1. Fatigue and weakness
2. Dizziness
3. Heavy, deep sighs
4. Unsteady gait
5. Pale, cold skin
6. Shortness of breath
7. Swollen feet
8. Eye inflammation
9. Sleepiness
10. Night sweats

12. Liver Meridian (1-3 AM)
Signs of Imbalance:
1. Dry throat
2. Liver pain
3. Inability to bend at the waist
4. Ashen complexion
5. Pain in the upper right shoulder blade

Excessive Chi:
1. Crying spells
2. Irritability
3. An obsession with working until the job is done
4. Random impulsivity
5. Bloodshot whites of the eyes
6. Headaches
7. Jaundice/yellowing skin
8. Menstrual irregularities
9. Pelvic pain
10. Mild restlessness

Deficient Chi:
1. Unsteady walking
2. General clumsiness
3. Eye strain/fatigue
4. Worsening vision
5. Constipation
6. Dizziness
7. Pale skin
8. Small intestine issues
9. Depression or feelings of fear
10. Fragility and irritable weakness.

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