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Michael Jones23 Michael Jones23 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Can someone help me crack the mystery here? Like, why do certain diet styles—macrobiotics, for example—completely cut out milk, yogurt, cheese, and all that dairy stuff? Meanwhile, you've got nutritionists everywhere swearing by it as a staple for bone density, boosting immunity, and fighting off those nasty bacterial or fungal infections... It seems pretty logical to me, right? I mean, babies rely on nothing but milk when they first start out. So why isn't it considered good for adults?
What do you guys think makes more sense? Which way is actually healthier?
Am I totally missing something here? 😕
Linda Hernandez15 Linda Hernandez15 Active Member
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joined Feb 2006
#2 ·
Just eat a little bit of everything and stop stressing over the small stuff 🙄
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#3 ·
Michael Jones23 said:Can someone help me solve this mystery? Why do certain diets—like macrobiotics—completely cut out milk, yogurt, cheese, and all those dairy products? Meanwhile, you have nutritionists constantly preaching about how essential dairy is for building strong bones, boosting immunity, and fighting off bacteria or fungal issues... It just seems logical to me. I mean, babies rely almost exclusively on milk when they first start eating... so why isn't it good for adults?
What do you guys think is actually right? What’s healthier?
Am I totally off base here? 😕

Think about it... what other animal drinks or eats milk once they aren't little anymore? None. Not a single one (as far as I know). To digest milk, you need the enzyme lactase, and our bodies just stop producing as much of it as we get older. That’s why a huge chunk of people can't handle dairy. A lot of Black Americans and most people of Asian descent can't digest it at all—just imagine the sheer stupidity of people heading into parts of Africa trying to feed starving kids nothing but cow's milk!

Bottom line is, adults don't need milk... assuming, of course, they're eating well and getting enough calcium from other stuff.

That pasteurized milk you grab at Walmart isn't exactly a superfood either. It’s worlds apart from the raw milk straight from a cow or goat, which is packed with everything. Babies get high-quality breast milk, not processed cow's milk! I read somewhere online that a baby calf might actually die if it were fed nothing but pasteurized milk—I don't know if that's 100% true, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised...

For years, I struggled with digestion issues and a sluggish metabolism. I wasn't eating much, but I couldn't lose weight—though I wasn't exactly overweight either. Everything changed once they found out I had a milk allergy. Since then, with just a few tweaks—mostly eating more veggies—my stomach has been fine. There was a time I used to eat Cokolesnik late at night, and by the time I got to my morning classes, my stomach would be growling so loud it was embarrassing. Once I quit the dairy, that stopped immediately.

Nowadays, if I have a small milkshake or chocolate milk here and there, I can usually get away with it, though even that sometimes gives me mild cramps or makes me feel bloated.

Here's a helpful link: The Milk page
Michael Jones23 Michael Jones23 Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
hmm, yeah...
so what kind of foods should I actually be hitting up if I want to get enough calcium?
you only mentioned how milk isn't always the best move, but what about cheese or yogurt? walk me through it. from what I understand, stuff like probiotics and yogurt is supposed to be super beneficial, right?
velvetpilot212 velvetpilot212 Active Member
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#5 ·
Linda Hernandez15 said:Just eat a little bit of everything and don't sweat the small stuff.🙄

... yeah, easier said than done ... 😁
velvetpilot212 velvetpilot212 Active Member
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#6 ·
dustycanyon6 said:What other animal drinks or eats milk once they aren't babies anymore? None (as far as I know). To digest milk, you need the lactase enzyme, which the body just stops producing much of as you get older. That’s why a huge chunk of the population can't handle dairy. A lot of people of African or Asian descent can't digest milk at all—so just imagine how misguided it is when people try to feed milk to starving kids in those parts of the world!

So that’s what it is!!!!

Basically—I’ve been drinking milk by the gallon my entire life. Until maybe a month or two ago, when one morning, after having about eight ounces of cocoa, I ended up throwing up...
I honestly thought it was just because of the cocoa (which was, like, insanely sweet...), but the exact same thing happened a week ago after I had about eight ounces of plain milk.

So that means—I'm officially an adult!!!!
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Linda Hernandez15 Linda Hernandez15 Active Member
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#7 ·
velvetpilot212 said:"Because Mom said so..." 😁

Khm, myself? I’m out here inhaling cheeseburgers and fries—or a whole pizza—at midnight. Pretty sure no mother in her right mind would actually permit that kind of lifestyle, haha. 🙂
Megan Morales5 Megan Morales5 Active Member
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#8 ·
The pasteurized milk you pick up at the grocery store isn't exactly a health food—it’s worlds apart from what actually comes out of a cow or a goat...

Yeah, the stuff at the supermarket is sterilized and probably has less fat content anyway...

Now I just drink a little milkshake or chocolate milk here and there (though I know for a fact those give me mild stomach cramps or make me feel bloated).

Well, that's just nonsense you're drinking...
loaded with sugar and who knows what else...
I mean... 🙄

those hormone levels drop when people go without milk for a long stretch—say, a year—and then they start drinking it again suddenly...
regularly, for like five years straight...
By your logic, I should've kicked the bucket a long time ago since I've been pouring milk down my throat for almost 35 years, and I haven't been sick in... I can't even remember...
must have been at least 3 years ago when I tore my arm playing football, but it healed up pretty fast...

velvetpilot212, either you've grown up or you're pregnant...
doesn't have to be both...
Linda Hernandez15 Linda Hernandez15 Active Member
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#9 ·
velvetpilot212 said:So that’s it!!!!
That's the moment—the moment I finally become an adult!!!!

🤔 So, how does one actually do this?
Come on, teach me your ways—if I learn, maybe I can join the grown-ups too 😢

P.S. Have you actually mentioned those stomach issues to your OB-GYN? Because if the answer is no, then honestly, I don't want to grow up either—not yet, at least. 😉
velvetpilot212 velvetpilot212 Active Member
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#10 ·
Megan Morales5 said:velvetpilot212, either you finally grew up or you’re pregnant.
It doesn't necessarily have to be both at once, I suppose.

I am not pregnant. I just grew up. 🙂
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#11 ·
Megan Morales5 said:Yeah, that stuff at the grocery store is already pasteurized and everything... plus it’s got less fat in it too...

Pasteurized, sterilized, homogenized, diluted... honestly, it’s all just useless at that point. When you pasteurize everything, you end up destroying all the most valuable nutrients, including the lactase... it's just a shame...


So, I was reading about how those hormone levels actually drop if you go a long time without drinking milk... like, say, a whole year... and then they spike right back up once you start drinking it regularly again, maybe five days in a row... it's pretty wild how fast the body reacts to that kind of stuff...

That’s just plain nonsense. I honestly don't know where you're getting that from, because it's just not true... I've been there myself, so believe me when I say I know what I'm talking about...

If your theory were actually right, I should've kicked the bucket a long time ago... I've been pouring milk into my system for nearly 35 years now, and honestly, I can't even remember the last time I felt sick...
I think it was maybe three years ago when I tore up my arm playing soccer... but man, it healed fast...

Not everyone is cut from the same cloth... plenty of folks, even as they get older, still have enough lactase to handle dairy without any issues. But just because your stomach can process it doesn't necessarily mean it's actually good for you...
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
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#12 ·
Look, let me get this straight—lactase is an enzyme, not some hormone... 🙄
Linda Hernandez15 Linda Hernandez15 Active Member
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#13 ·
rustymoose54 said:Lactase is an enzyme, not a hormone 🙄

dustycanyon6, feel free to keep talking—we all know you got beat up by a woman 🙂
I don't believe a single word out of your mouth anymore, and honestly, I've already said my piece. 🙂
Michael Jones23 Michael Jones23 Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
Linda Hernandez15 said:just eat a little bit of everything and don't stress over the small stuff 🙄


yeah, I get that. 😉
but what I was actually getting at is, if something is legit bad for you—like milk, for example—do you just cut it out entirely? you know what I mean?
obviously, moderation is key and you should grab a bit of everything...
Linda Hernandez15 Linda Hernandez15 Active Member
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#15 ·
Michael Jones23 said:if something is actually harmful—like milk, for instance

I mean, who told you that? Let's just leave dustycanyon6 out of this for now
Michael Jones23 Michael Jones23 Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
Linda Hernandez15 said:seriously who told you that? we're leaving Max out of this

I mean, I've read stuff about how you're supposed to avoid milk entirely (at least according to those macrobiotic types)... so if that's true, it's gotta be bad for you, right?!
David Jackson2 David Jackson2 Active Member
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#17 ·
It’s just not true that Black people can't handle dairy—I mean, maybe some individuals struggle, but you really shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. If anything, milk—freshly expressed, mind you—mixed with animal blood is actually a staple for several African groups, like the Maasai.
Besides, pretty much any other animal will happily lap up milk; not every single species, obviously, but hey, give a cat a saucer and you'll see they aren't picky. 😁 The real kicker is that humans are the only ones who can access milk so easily. I mean, imagine trying to milk a cow or a goat if you were some other kind of animal. 😲 😁
Vegans skip it for moral reasons or because they don't want to fund the dairy industry, and then you've got those macrobiotic folks who just do their own thing regardless of what anyone else thinks. 😁
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#18 ·
rustymoose54 said:Lactase is an enzyme, not a hormone 🙄

Yeah, you're totally right there... I meant enzyme, but I typed hormone—just a slip of the pen. But honestly, making a typo doesn't change the actual point I was making about milk... It’s not like whether I wrote 'enzyme' or 'hormone' changes the facts...

Linda Hernandez15 said:dustycanyon6, feel free to stop talking, since your wife beat you up 🙂

I didn't realize things were getting this aggressive in here... Nice job calling out my grammar mistake, though...

I don't believe a single thing you say anymore, and I already told you that 🙂

Look, I'm not even trying to win you over. I'm just sharing what I know from my own life and what I've looked up online. You can keep sticking to those outdated textbooks and old theories if you want...
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#19 ·
David Jackson2 said:It’s just not true that Black people can't handle dairy—I mean, maybe some can't, but you shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. Plus, milk is actually a staple for several groups, like the Maasai, where they mix fresh milk with animal blood...

Lactose Intolerance

Some people have trouble digesting milk products because an enzyme that digests milk is missing from their body – a condition known as lactose intolerance. According to the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, between 30 and 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant. This condition occurs more often in certain ethnic groups. In fact, up to 75 percent of all adult African Americans and Native Americans and 90 percent of Asian Americans consider themselves lactose intolerant.
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
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#20 ·
dustycanyon6 said:Yeah, you're totally right... I meant enzyme, but I typed hormone—just a total slip of the tongue there. But honestly, me tripping over one word doesn't change a damn thing about my point regarding milk—it’s not like the whole argument falls apart just because I swapped 'enzyme' for 'hormone' in my post. Like, who cares, seriously?

Sorry, but if you're gonna try and lecture people on biochemistry and physiology, maybe pick up a textbook first? It's kind of basic. Is it a "syntax error" when someone points at a computer and thinks they're talking about the monitor?😁

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