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Lawrence Garcia93 Lawrence Garcia93 Member
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#21 ·
Tiger Woods said:you can eat all that at work too, if you even have the setup for it... if so, I'm jealous.

what setup?
like having a place to stash a bowl in the fridge? everything's prepped at home before I leave
if you really wanna be jealous, envy the hustle instead🙂
Brenda Allen27 Brenda Allen27 Member
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#22 ·
So, why does Olivier Pichot—this big-shot chef with a bunch of Michelin's stars under his belt—actually prefer working at McDonald's over those super fancy, high-end spots?

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Pichot isn't buying into this whole "junk food" label. He's like, "Look, my take is pretty simple: I don't really believe in the concept of junk food. A Chateaubriand steak loaded with foie gras and butter, paired with heavy red wine and those massive desserts you get even at a three-star restaurant? That could totally be considered junk food. There isn't any more fat in a McDonald's burger than there is in a cheesecake, a buttery croissant, or some luxury pastries from Pierre Herme." As for the weight gain issue? "It’s not like anyone is forcing customers to crush three burgers, three orders of fries, and two liters of soda. McDonald's has that classic American image that maybe isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't think that has to mean it's bad for you. It just comes down to being an adult and knowing how to eat right; after that, it's your call what you pick."

"My dream is basically to expand what's out there, find new ways to do things, and bring more variety to the table. We should grab this chance to offer more options. At McDonald's, they told me, 'Help us find new solutions. Help us broaden our menu. Help us change people's palates. And help us teach kids, because if they aren't eating veggies at home, it's just because nobody taught them how.'"

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Terry Hernandez6 Terry Hernandez6 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Brenda Allen27 said:So, why does Olivier Pichot—you know, the culinary superstar with a whole collection of Michelin's stars hanging on his wall—actually prefer flipping burgers at McDonald's over working in those ultra-fancy, high-end restaurants?

Sold his soul ☕ 😁
Joseph Lee3 Joseph Lee3 Active Member
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#24 ·
I honestly can't believe what I'm looking at... 😢
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#25 ·
Brenda Allen27 said:Why on earth would Olivier Pichot—a culinary superstar with a whole collection of Michelin's stars under his belt—actually prefer working at a McDonald's over those ultra-exclusive, high-end dining establishments?

Well, I’d wager it comes down to the paycheck being significantly better, wouldn't you? 👎>
Lawrence Garcia93 Lawrence Garcia93 Member
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#26 ·
Man, if you actually had his cash in your pocket, you'd be talking this much shit too. Just think about it for a second...

Nobody's forcing you to inhale three burgers at McDonald's, but seriously, how is anyone supposed to feel full off one of those pathetic little things I call "sliders"?
Chloe Fox35 Chloe Fox35 Newcomer
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#27 ·
Druuna said:Correction on a factual error:

He didn't just eat hamburgers. The rules were this:
1. He had to eat and drink exclusively at McDonald's for all three meals.
2. Every single item on their menu had to be eaten an equal number of times.
3. He had to stay as active as the average American (some specific step count, can't recall the exact number).

By day 15, doctors were basically begging him to stop because his liver was failing. Not to mention his mental state... 🙄
Disaster.

😳

Exactly.

Morgan Spurlock proved, contrary to what Pichot claims, that the whole 'junk food issue' is very real.
It's obvious to Spurlock that almost nobody—or maybe just a tiny minority—eats those burgers (or anything else they sell) every single day. However, there are plenty of people eating it a few times a week (and I doubt a certain percentage eats it daily); especially in the US and Canada. They could have warned people about what that diet does to the body—since nobody pays attention until a major health crisis hits (and even then, they try to cut back on that garbage). I'm mostly talking about people who don't care how much junk they consume, rather than those trying to eat relatively healthy when possible.

Anyway, the documentary speaks for itself and definitely makes a point.

The DVD has some interesting extras—including a little experiment where he compared McDonald's french fries and burgers to similar items from a local greasy spoon 😉 that offers something slightly better quality (more like a decent homemade burger and fries that aren't quite as processed as McDonald's). Interesting... 😁

http://www.supersizeme.com

Avoiding unhealthy food is hard, sure, but you can always choose the lesser of two evils. At least when there's a choice. And usually, there is.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#28 ·
Brenda Allen27 said:1. It's swaschta, not schwaschta
2. And I said "wanted," not "wanted" (gender correction here)...
😁 👋

Thanks for the support! 👋

2 out of 2, pretty spot-on accuracy rate...
Brenda Allen27 Brenda Allen27 Member
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#29 ·
Jose Miller3 said:2 out of 2, man... what a killer average for missing the mark.

Eh, don't sweat it. To err is human, right? I guess I might even forgive you! 😉
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
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#30 ·
Brenda Allen27 said:Why would Olivier Pichot, a culinary heavyweight with multiple Michelin stars under his belt, prefer working at McDonald's over some ultra-exclusive fine dining establishment?

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Pichot rejects the whole "junk food" label entirely. "My philosophy is straightforward: I don't buy into this whole concept of bad food. A Chateaubriand steak served with foie gras and butter, paired with heavy red wines and incredibly rich desserts, can be just as much 'junk food' in a three-star restaurant. There isn't more fat in a McDonald's burger than there is in a cheesecake, a buttery croissant, or the luxury pastries of Pierre Herme." As for the obesity issue? "Nobody is forcing customers to inhale three burgers, three large fries, and two liters of soda. McDonald's carries an American image that doesn't appeal to everyone, but to me, it shouldn't be synonymous with poor nutrition. It’s really just about being an adult and knowing how to eat properly; after that, the choice is yours."

"My dream is to expand the range of what's available, push boundaries, and introduce variety. We have to seize this opportunity to create more options. At McDonald's, they told me: 'Help us find new solutions. Help us broaden our menu. Help us evolve people's palates. Help us educate children—because if kids aren't eating vegetables at home, it's because nobody taught them how.'"

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Full article:

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On that point, I actually agree. You can't live a strictly "healthy" life; life itself isn't healthy. As long as you're alive, you're essentially perishable goods.😁

What you *can* do is be mindful of what you eat, how much you eat, and WHY you're eating it. People struggling with weight often have a massive problem with the "WHY"—they haven't learned how to eat because they're actually hungry, rather than eating for other reasons.
Personally, I loved that back in elementary school in Paris, we had nutritional education every single day in the cafeteria. They introduced us to different flavors, textures, and varieties. It wasn't about banning chocolate, chips, or even a burger; it was about teaching us to try everything and practice moderation. I think that's superior education because it doesn't frustrate people or make them feel guilty or deprived. That's how you develop a sane relationship with food.

By the way, nimbledriver81, I actually heard about a vegetarian on this forum who goes to McDonald's just to eat a salad.😉
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
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#31 ·
Chloe Fox35 said:Look, even Spurlock gets the point—almost nobody (or maybe just a tiny handful of outliers) is actually sitting down to eat those burgers (or anything else on the menu) on a daily basis. That said, you still have plenty of people hitting up those spots a few times a week, and I wouldn't be surprised if a certain percentage of folks in the USA or Canada are doing it every single day.

To me, this just proves there’s a massive group of people out there who simply don't know how to eat properly. They're basically setting themselves up for disaster because instead of grabbing McDonald's a couple of times a week, they're choosing other types of food that are just as loaded with fat, carbs, and calories...
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#32 ·
darkbison81 said:By the way, nimbledriver81—I actually heard about this one vegetarian on a different forum who went straight to McDonald's just to grab a salad 😉

😲 Now, vegetarians are generally perceived as being quite the informed crowd...
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#33 ·
nimbledriver81 said:😲 Vegetarians are usually seen as the informed ones...

Man, believe me, you'll find all kinds of people in that crowd. If you knew what I have to listen to on a daily basis from this one vegetarian lady...

The latest gem: she claims you shouldn't eat mushrooms because they "poison your blood." And if I told you that person actually holds a Ph.D., you probably wouldn't even believe me
Brenda Allen27 Brenda Allen27 Member
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#34 ·
darkbison81 said:The only thing you can really control is being mindful about what you eat, how much, and—most importantly—WHY. I feel like people struggling with their weight often have a massive issue with the "why," since they never actually learned to eat because they're hungry, you know? They're eating for other reasons entirely.
I honestly loved that my elementary school back in Chicago had nutrition classes every single day in the cafeteria. They taught us about different flavors, ingredients, and variety, but they didn't ban things like chocolate, chips, or a burger from McDonald's. It was more about balance and moderation. I think that kind of education is huge because it doesn't make you feel frustrated or guilty, which helps you build a sane relationship with food.

Yeah, I'm with you—the "why" is the real kicker. I guess most people just don't view food as this vital part of their physical development. Usually, it’s just about chasing a feeling, whether that's actual hunger or just looking for a quick hit of dopamine. Plus, time is always an issue; if you're rushing, you just grab whatever's easiest.

As for the school stuff— 👍 man, I wish we actually did that in our public schools here.
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#35 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Oh, believe me—you wouldn't believe the variety of characters out there. If you knew what I have to listen to on a daily basis from this one vegetarian acquaintance of mine...

The latest absolute gem: she claims we shouldn't eat mushrooms because they "poison the blood." And if I told you that person actually holds a Ph.D., you probably wouldn't even believe me!

😂 Honestly, it’s just like those old urban legends about genetically modified tomatoes being spliced with fish DNA... At this rate, I’ll probably turn green and start producing my own chlorophyll just from eating so many vegetables! 🙄
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
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#36 ·
nimbledriver81 said:😲 Vegetarians are generally seen as being pretty well-informed people...

That's a mistake. 😁 You shouldn't judge people based on whatever group they belong to; you have to look at them as individuals. Otherwise, you're just asking to be blindsided. 😁
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#37 ·
darkbison81 said:It’s a mistake 😁—you shouldn't judge people based on whatever group they belong to, but rather look at them as individuals. Otherwise, you're just asking to be blindsided by reality. 😁

True enough. But then again, it's always easy to play the strategist once the dust has settled and the battle is already won. 😁
darkbison81 darkbison81 Active Member
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#38 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Yeah, sure. It’s always easy to play the armchair quarterback after the game is already over. 😁

Exactly 😁 (there, now you'll know what to expect for the next one...)
Chloe Fox35 Chloe Fox35 Newcomer
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#39 ·
darkbison81 said:To just proves there are plenty of people in America who don't know how to eat properly and would end up in trouble anyway. Instead of hitting McDonald's a few times a week, they'll just eat some other kind of food that has just as much fat, carbs, and calories...

Fair point; obviously most things we eat can have similar effects (and do). I'm not saying stuffing yourself with other types of food loaded with fat and calories is healthy or a good idea—especially if you're skipping fruit and veggies entirely. And sure, as if all the bad stuff is somehow concentrated into a single McDonald's meal 😁 ).
He didn't prove anything we aren't already aware of. But it’s also about how, after a while, people just start feeling defeated. They think, "It's all the same, so I might as well just grab McDonald's and stop wasting time looking for something that might be slightly healthier." That's part of the issue...
There's also a difference between burgers—and those fries, too. It's not the same whether you make them at home or eat something similar to what McDonald's offers. And honestly... that comparison between McDonald's fries and some other non-homemade option was an interesting experiment.
I think it's better to eat, say, some bacon (or a decent cut of meat, for those who eat it often) and bread, rather than eating a processed mixture made from god-knows-how-many different cows plus all the preservatives and additives found in that junk. It isn't just about the fats...

That's why I said at the end of my post that it's better (and possible) to choose the lesser of two evils. You don't need to be obsessed—sure, you'll grab fast food once in a while—but you shouldn't feel miserable thinking "bad food" doesn't exist.
Also, I think it's easy to go overboard, both when it comes to shoving burgers down your throat and when it comes to some sort of "holy abstinence" from anything remotely unhealthy.
You just need to find a middle ground and listen to your body...
Lawrence Garcia93 Lawrence Garcia93 Member
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#40 ·
mallee 👍

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