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Hypnosis: Yay or Nay?

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Participants Sean Doyleurbansailor68Jamie Clark74Kevin White5Richard Murphy6wiredowl32Roger Smith6Amy Martinez5Daniel Fox9Larry Cruz51lonecobra71ambermason16dustyranger40urbanseal6Matthew Morris28Michelle Chase3Michael Jones23rowdyridge59Anthony Harris14Carol JamesKyle Nelson2Amy Fowler5Michelle Alvarez8Jonathan Kelly3 …
Larry Cruz51 Larry Cruz51 Active Member
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#41 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:A friend and I used to hypnotize people, and we even managed to guide one girl back to a past life.

Let’s just assume for a moment that you're telling the truth.
What was your method for hypnotizing them? What tools did you actually use?😕
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#42 ·
Larry Cruz51 said:Let’s start by assuming I actually trust you.
How exactly did they hypnotize you? What tools or methods did they actually use?😕

Hoffman’s going to get what’s coming to him. 😁
lonecobra71 lonecobra71 Newcomer
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#43 ·
Carol James said:When I was a kid, I had a close encounter with a car, and the shock left me stuttering. I tried everything under the sun—including going to this one guy (won't name him) who claimed he could "cure" stuttering. Honestly, I can only laugh at myself now while writing this. 🙄
Basically, his whole setup involved cramming about 15 people into a tiny room and telling them they were "lesser" people, or that their kids would end up stuttering too... Among other things, he’d make you stand in front of him while swinging a watch left and right (I know, sounds ridiculous, but it really happened) and "hypnotize" you into believing the stutter was gone. I put quotes around that because while it worked for some, he just ended up yelling at my parents and me because we wouldn't play along. I walked out because staring at a clock and listening to that nonsense made zero sense. His attempt at hypnotizing me failed completely. He’d then bring out someone he supposedly "cured" to perform in front of everyone, and that person would act like the stutter was gone. But here's the kicker: my mom told me she talked to other parents outside, and they said people were actually coming back more frequently. For a while, the stuttering improved, but then it got even worse than before.
So, what's the deal? Clearly, that kind of hypnosis creates some sort of effect—positive or negative—but once that wears off, things can spiral and get way worse.
By the way, I fixed my stutter a different way... I still struggle occasionally, and I can usually tell when a bad couple of days are coming, but it doesn't stop me from living my life. 👍

Bad hypnotist. Bad communication. That's it. 👎
lonecobra71 lonecobra71 Newcomer
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#44 ·
Anthony Harris14 said:To be honest, I don't know anything about hypnosis from a legitimate medical standpoint. I was just comparing it to homeopathy because, clearly, homeopathy works as a placebo. In my view, homeopathy is just a placebo. I might be wrong, but that's all I know for now. I didn't say actual health issues are caused by low self-esteem, though if you go by the WHO definition of illness, low self-esteem could technically be considered a health problem—but by that logic, there wouldn't be a single healthy soul on this planet, unless they were caught in a fleeting moment of bliss or dreaming.

Fine, 😉 🙂, but even then, the placebo effect isn't the same thing as hypnosis 😉

It’s possible some people are just more sensitive, more "powerful" when it comes to syncing their mind and body to influence physical health through the psyche.
lonecobra71 lonecobra71 Newcomer
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#45 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:A buddy and I used to hypnotize people back in the day, and we once sent a girl straight back to a past life. It was wild—she doesn't know a word of English in this life, but she started speaking perfect Cockney like she was some London streetwalker in the 1800s.
Man, if my friend hadn't pulled her out of that state after a week, she might've actually gone back to her old trade for a bit.

Once you brought her back to reality, did she actually remember anything from that previous life?
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#46 ·
Larry Cruz51 said:Let's just start by assuming I actually believe you.
So how did they hypnotize you? What kind of tools were they even using?😕

The usual stuff... you lie down... I tell you to relax... you know, that whole classic intro to get you into an alpha state, then focusing on specific things and all that nonsense.
Michael Jones23 Michael Jones23 Active Member
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#47 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:The usual routine... just lie down... tell them to relax... you know, that whole bit where you ease into an alpha state and then focus on specific things and all that.

How are you guys actually pulling this off? Did someone ever sit you down and show you the ropes?

Give me some actual details here. Don't just give me "the usual... lie down..."
Amy Fowler5 Amy Fowler5 Newcomer
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#48 ·
Hypnosis is morally and ethically indefensible.
At that point, you aren't even in control of yourself anymore, and honestly, that feels like a crime...
A person should have the freedom to make their own choices in every single situation life throws at them. When that autonomy is stripped away through hypnosis—or any other method, really—it stops being "therapy" and turns into pure manipulation..

So, please, dear friends, stick to legitimate treatments... use proven methods and traditional paths.
👋
Matthew Morris28 Matthew Morris28 Active Member
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#49 ·
Look, saying IVF is somehow "unethical" is just like saying... well, it's nonsense.

Seriously, though, is it also "unethical" to strap someone to a bed with a seatbelt? Come on.

The thing about the conscious mind is that you can't force something into it if the person fundamentally rejects it. But hypnosis? That bypasses the conscious guard and hits the subconscious, where you can actually use suggestion without fighting that constant conscious resistance. All those sudden gut reactions, defense mechanisms, and raw instincts—that stuff lives in the subconscious. In certain moments, your subconscious reacts way faster than your conscious brain because it’s trying to protect you. That's why people have these weird reactions they can't explain, or why they just do things on autopilot.

It just doesn't work that way; we have built-in biological safeguards. What you're describing sounds more like some staged scene from a Hollywood movie or a reality TV show.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#50 ·
A little kid doesn't really have autonomy over their own life, so I guess having one would basically be a crime.

The guy who taught me this stuff actually worked in the field for a while. He wanted to go into psychiatry, but eventually decided the whole thing was kind of pointless.
Now I’m getting bogged down in the details again... but the gist is focusing your awareness on specific parts of your body, just trying to calm everything down and stuff. That’s how you hit an alpha state once you reach level 6 of hypnosis (out of 30 total).

hehe... anyone here want me to hypnotize them??

The main point is that in an alpha state, your inhibitions drop, which clears a path straight to the subconscious. Once you're there, you can actually "communicate" with it.
urbansailor68 urbansailor68 Member
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#51 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:The whole idea is just focusing your awareness on specific body parts, relaxing, stuff like that. You hit that alpha state by level 6 of hypnosis (out of 30).

hehe... anyone want me to hypnotize them??

Since it’s obvious you know your way around hypnosis, I gotta ask you something: I’ve heard from some pros—actual experts in the field, not just randoms—that there are people who never actually "come back" after hypnosis. So, let's see what your experience and knowledge tells you about that... 😛
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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#52 ·
That’s just flat-out wrong.
Hypnosis is basically just a natural state of mind, so if you leave a "client" in that trance, they’re either going to wake up on their own or just drift off to sleep.
urbansailor68 urbansailor68 Member
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#53 ·
Kyle Nelson2 :
That’s just plain wrong.
Hypnosis is actually a natural state of mind. If you leave a "client" in that trance, they’re either going to wake up on their own or just drift off to sleep.

Sure, if you say so... honestly, I don't really care.🥳

🤔But can someone hypnotize us without us even realizing it? Let me clarify... without us asking for it. Like, could you hypnotize an acquaintance while you're just hanging out and talking, without them being aware of it, making them go through the whole process without ever knowing?
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#54 ·
Here’s that anti-smoking hypnotist guy
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
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#55 ·
dustyranger40 said:Honestly, those things kind of freak me out. Just the thought of someone poking around in my subconscious—brrr... Who knows what they might dig up or wake up? I'd much rather just live in blissful ignorance.

Ignorance really is bliss, isn't it? 👍
Jonathan Kelly3 Jonathan Kelly3 Newcomer
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#56 ·
Hey everyone... I have a question here that I just can't seem to find a straight answer to online.

So, here’s the situation: my father has been stuck in the hospital for quite a while now. He had heart bypass surgery, followed by a second procedure to deal with an infection in his sternum.

Following both surgeries, he ran into breathing complications and ended up on a ventilator. He’ll manage on his own for a day or maybe a day and a half, but then they have to put him back on the machine because his carbon dioxide levels spike—basically, he can't exhale properly or get enough oxygen on his own. The doctors explained that after major lung trauma from surgery, the lungs can essentially "sluggishly settle," and patients like him have to work hard to retrain their respiratory muscles. Even when he isn't hooked up to the ventilator, he’s struggling; he just doesn't have the strength. He’s been hospitalized for three months now.
Yesterday, he actually suggested I look into whether hypnosis could help him regain a normal breathing pattern. Has anyone ever heard of this? Read anything about it? To be honest, my gut tells me this is a purely physiological issue, and I doubt hypnosis would make much of a dent in a physical struggle like this. 🤷

What are your thoughts?
Linda Long3 Linda Long3 Newcomer
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#57 ·
Do you have a thread for this on the forum?

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