Here - by Steven Spielberg

brightscout63 said:I wouldn't be the first film critic to pull a stunt like that...😳
But seriously, you're such a psycho... If you don't have a life, stop attacking people on this forum.
I couldn't care less if you were the guy carrying water buckets on the set of "Here." "Here" is going to tank, just like the entire American film industry...
Yeah... It kind of stings seeing those Canadians walking away with all the film awards...

Hahaha... this is honestly the most intense psychological profile some idiot has ever slapped on me since I joined this forum.😵

You should probably start charging money for your "insightfulness."
Seriously, it's a gift from above... 🤣 🙂>

driftingowl27 said:No, I was just waiting for some jerk who doesn't even watch movies to sit here and write about them... :asshole:

Give me a break. I am constantly writing about films I haven't seen, and honestly, so are you. brightscout63 might not have been the most graceful with his first post, but so what? Try to grasp his actual point.
Besides, he was discussing the movie, not you, and you really have to be a total pushover to call him an idiot over that.

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Why even bother commenting when it’s clearly just the local custom for idiots to talk trash about stuff they haven't even bothered to watch?

Go ahead and keep talking nonsense, but I'm gonna happily head back to the theater to catch a beautiful movie instead.

Like, I don't know, maybe 'here'.

Finally got around to watching it. It’s been a really, really long time since I’ve seen a movie this good. And mind you—I don't mean "this good for an American film"—if the characters weren't speaking English, I wouldn't have even guessed it was shot in that absolute dumpster fire of a country where mistakes like "dead girl" movies are actually considered high art (can someone please explain what's supposed to be good about that one? Did I miss something?). But man, it isn't just good; it's gorgeous. Even the ending isn't some pathetic tear-jerker moment; the power outage actually serves a purpose. I didn't read it as some over-the-top, "oh woe is us, life is so hard and we fought so hard for nothing" melodrama, but rather as this slightly surreal, distancing way to pull the curtain shut. Of course, naturally, any display of actual ambition is going to be immediately dismissed by critics as being "pretentious." Total nonsense. To me, it felt like the moment where Spielberg is basically saying, "Good grief, what is wrong with you people? It's just a movie." My only real gripe is that scene with the addict—I would have cut it entirely or completely overhauled it because, as it stands... well, it's utter crap. Everything else made me a very happy camper 🙂

brightscout63 said:Anyway, you insecure weirdo... If you don't have a life, stop attacking people on this forum.

😂 🙂 Someone called Mickey a complexed mess. Honestly, Mickey, it’s high time you started listening to Dream Theater. 😁

Back to the topic though. Regarding American films, those MFD ones were hyped up so much before I even sat down to watch them that if they hadn't been, I probably wouldn't have bothered at all. And honestly? It wasn't even that great. So yeah, I'm a bit skeptical about these massive waves of praise right from the jump, but hey, what do I know. When these festivals start fighting over a movie... 🤔

brightscout63, if you actually go see that absolute disaster of a movie, I can promise you one thing: this week is going to be a total write-off for you.

...and as for the rest of you... honestly, you're all just conformists...
...why are we even pretending everything is fine? If American cinema is circling the drain, let's have the guts to say it instead of acting like it isn't terrible (and trust me, it can always get worse)...
...any real artist would rather do nothing at all than produce "something," but around here, people have been churning out mediocre "something" for ages... and even that "something" is barely passing for work.
....
Cheers to Ivo G.—he's the only bright spot in this whole film!—seriously, the guy actually knows how to act. Major props!

I see everyone’s drifted a bit off topic, so I guess I’ll jump in too.
Regarding our own movies, honestly, the vibe is just so apathetic and depressing right now that you basically can't get anyone into an American theater to see an American film, even if you're offering them a free ticket! I’m saying this from personal experience. It feels like there's this general mood across the country where people have sort of lost hope that anything can actually get better, and I suppose that includes American cinema.
Unfortunately, I haven't had the chance to catch *Here* or *Witness*, so I can't really weigh in on those.
As for *dead girl*—personally, I thought it was a good movie. It’s kind of like when I pick up a book by a local author; I don't go around comparing it to the current Nobel laureates or Sheffield's heavy hitters, but instead, I appreciate it for what it tells me about life here, in our own way, which makes sense to me in a way it wouldn't to some random Argentine. When you consider the budget, the resources, and the actual human potential we have for filmmaking in this country, I don't think we should be as harsh on our own films as we are on everyone else's. That’s why I always try to go see our movies without any preconceived notions. I genuinely enjoy supporting our artists that way, because I truly feel they deserve an audience, at least some of them do.
Come on, people, get to the theater and support American films!

Elvis Presley said:brightscout63, if you actually end up seeing that absolute disaster of a movie, I can promise you one thing: this week is gonna be a total wash for you.

...and the rest of you? Honestly, you're all just conformists...
...why are we even pretending everything's fine? If American cinema is totally trashed, let's have the guts to just say it instead of acting like it isn't garbage (I mean, it could always get worse, right?)...
...any real artist would rather do nothing than produce something mediocre, but around here, people have been churning out "something" for ages...and even that "something" is bottom-of-the-barrel stuff...
....
Cheers to Ivo G.—literally the only bright spot in this whole film!—the guy actually knows how to act, major props!

amberfalcon172 is already quoting himself, so I guess I’ll do the same, here goes:
"You're an idiot. Go kick rocks."

Forget about all that cheese and sheep!

feralgardener502 said:amberfalcon172 is already out here quoting himself, so I guess I’ll follow suit—here goes:
You’re an idiot. Go die.

And why are you even chiming in, you uneducated little conformist? Seriously, watch your step so Cole doesn't pull a fast one on you—since when did you become an expert on what he should be doing? I mean, come on, surely he knows better than you! Right?!

Has anyone else caught any of the movies playing at the Arena this summer?
Without getting into a whole debate about how good they actually were, there's one thing they all have in common: they are incredibly depressing.
Maybe that’s exactly why it’s such a hard sell to get American audiences to sit through American films...

Richard Chavez said:>
Look, I’m not even gonna get into whether the movies are actually good or not, but they all share one massive thing in common: they are depressingly bleak as hell.

I mean, come on. It's all just freaking Disney compared to the raw, real-life material sitting right in front of them... honestly, it’s a damn shame Ken Loach isn't American...

driftingowl27 said:Honestly, it’s all just damn Disney compared to the real-life material they have sitting right in front of them... I can't help but feel a bit bummed that Ken Loach isn't American...

That is so true... But most Americans have had quite enough of that gritty RL stuff to want to sit through it at the cinema or on TV...
People just crave something else, even if it's just pure fantasy. I mean, why is it that whenever some athlete wins a championship somewhere, we act like they’re our own best friend? People just want something to celebrate, something to get excited about—even if the reason is manufactured. And honestly, if they could, many would probably choose to wipe from their memory everything those movies remind them of for the millionth time...

From an interview with Z. Ogresta free California, Thursday, 11/06/2003:

Spielberg said:The other day, I was browsing some online chat room and stumbled upon something that absolutely floored me.

The text starts out almost verbatim like this: “Steven Spielberg is a villain, just like Greta Gerwig, Rod Blagojevich, Brešan, and the rest…” And then comes this unbelievable twist: “but the movie HERE is an outstanding film!” What follows is a panegyric for the film unlike anything I’ve rarely had the pleasure of reading. What truly stunned me about that passage was the author's logic—writing under a pseudonym, they likely used that opening just to bait everyone in the chat into agreeing. It seems that being utterly cynical toward American filmmakers is simply the "standard starting point" for these people.

So, the individual in question read this and most likely even joined the debate.
I’m calling brightscout63 on this one.
And let’s be real, there's a fundamental misunderstanding of what a chat versus a forum even is... But what really sticks out is how they blame this "standard, disastrously negative view of American filmmakers" on the general lack of film culture among Americans. Not long ago in the interview, Z. O. mentioned that this isn't just an issue with American cinema; he noted that the American audience doesn't even bother watching quality European films. When asked by a TV reporter about the low box office numbers for their recent projects, Brešan and Nola cynically replied, “Maybe it’s because people at home actually read books.” 🙂 😵

George Cruz65 said:So, basically, this guy actually read it—and who knows, maybe he even jumped right into the debate himself.

Or what, did he start trashing his own movie?! It’s like some kind of split personality disorder playing out in real time. 😂

I'm putting my money on brightscout63.

If brightscout63 is Spielberg, then Miki Jakov Sedlar is 😁

p.s. does anyone actually consider this forum a reliable source for what's happening in American cinema? 🙄

I really hope Spielberg and his crew (Brešan, Nola) are reading this, because according to them, Americans don't even read books or watch movies.
Or maybe it's just everyone in America except for their "highly educated" elite circle.😎
Honestly, the total ignorance regarding the difference between a chat room and a forum isn't surprising coming from a self-proclaimed genius who kills five sparrows and traumatizes several cats just to make his "brilliant" film, then has the nerve to lie about using animal models. Either stand behind your (lack of) work or admit you're a fraud. I'm voting for the second option.😲 👎
Oh, please! Give me a break.🙄

northernseal6 said:... who, for the sake of their supposedly ingenious film, kills five sparrows and traumatizes several cats, only to have the nerve to lie afterward and spin fairy tales about some animal models

I'm really hoping this reaches them, because it would be quite interesting if they actually spoke up... (<---- Mr. Spielberg, please click the link)

George Cruz65 said:Basically, this guy read it and probably even joined the debate.
My money is on brightscout63.

😲 😲 😲 😲
I haven't felt this insulted since high school when Ledo told me I didn't know who Jackie Chan !!!! was.😁

It’s true, it’s absolutely true—brightscout63 is actually Spielberg!!!

I happened to spot Spielberg scribbling away right here on the forum near the city center. I did a little bit of digital spying and realized he’s hiding behind the username brightscout63.

Oh, my dear Spielberg, how you have fallen from grace!!!👎 👎 👎 👎