Living with schizophrenia

Raymond Allen said:I don't get 😕

Of course you don't get it—you're completely confused😉

Just get those dark thoughts out of your head... you know, "a sound mind in a sound body"—ever heard of it?

Kenneth Hill37 said:😁

Alright, here’s some free advice for anyone hanging out with folks dealing with mental health stuff. Find yourself a crew that isn't afraid to call you out when you're acting up... people who will actually sit there for an hour straight just to help you see where you're messing up.

PS. Kenneth Hill37 :cmok:

User123 said:Besides magnetic blankets, I don't get why people would buy those plastic plates with copper yin-yang symbols printed on them just to "block radiation." Like, paying $150 for one of those? Makes no sense.

My neighbor. Radiation is her whole thing. So is her sister—who happens to be a geologist—and their brother. All three living under one roof, basically totally isolated from everyone else and without any medical help... they've pretty much gotten lost.

It started years ago with talk about groundwater and using some radiesthesia application guy to position their beds—this has been going on for 15 years now. Their stories sounded "scientific" enough to pass for someone who doesn't know better.

Eventually, the radiation paranoia spread to cable TV, building phone lines, water pipes... even claiming lasers were being aimed at them from nowhere. They started tearing up installations, cut off their own power and phone, and even tried to rip the radiators out of the walls, which obviously wasn't happening. They blamed the other tenants for all their health issues, becoming super hostile and dark.

Then things escalated. Bottles, trash, random stuff like an ironing board started flying off their balcony. They smashed car windows too—luckily, nobody walking by got hit.

So, yeah, they ended up in the hospital with a police escort.

Despite how bad it looks from the outside, I don't think they were completely "crazy." It’s hard to put into words—just a gut feeling—but maybe if things were different, their symptoms wouldn't have been so destructive.

Anyway, I doubt they'll ever move back here, at least according to our building rep. He's working on it. 👎

I have no idea who's looking out for them, but I assume the state will appoint a guardian... leaving their apartment sitting empty.
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frozenangler9, it’s blindingly obvious that there are various types of harmful radiation that negatively impact people. I have the book "radiesthesia application" by Boris Farkaš, which describes these radiations quite thoroughly, yet nowhere in its pages did I find anything suggesting that this radiation can be blocked by simply sliding some plastic sheets under your living room rug. In my opinion, it's perfectly reasonable for a radiesthesia practitioner to investigate groundwater radiation in an apartment and suggest, say, moving your bed away from where the signal passes through—that's fine. But handing over $100 for some flimsy plate that's supposed to stop that radiation? That is nothing more than selling smoke.

User123 said:frozenangler9, look, it's obvious there are all kinds of harmful radiation affecting people—I actually have this book, "radiesthesia application" by Boris Farkaš, which covers this stuff pretty well. But nowhere in that book does it say you can stop this radiation by just shoving some plastic sheets under your rug. I think it’s fine if some radiesthesia expert checks an apartment for underground water signals and suggests moving your bed away from the path of those signals—that's reasonable. But dropping $100 on some random plate that’s supposed to block radiation? That's just selling snake oil.

What kind of radiation are we even talking about here? Electromagnetic?

The reality is we’re constantly surrounded by electromagnetic radiation from all sorts of sources, but that’s just life now. Maybe it is bad for your health, sure—just like junk food full of chemicals, smog, loud noise, whatever.

Honestly, obsessing over radiation seems more dangerous than the radiation itself, at least when you're looking at health and schizophrenia.

There was this one great line in a Woody Allen film...

"Everyone knows the same truth; our lives are really just defined by how we choose to twist it..."

Now, I know people always say you don't "choose" schizophrenia, but that really opens up a massive philosophical rabbit hole regarding how much control we actually have over our lives versus how much is just predetermined. It’s one of those deep debates—whether we are truly the masters of our own fate or just drifting along. But, putting all that heavy thinking aside, I honestly feel like that specific sentence captures the essence of living with schizophrenia quite perfectly.

The general consensus seems to be that people are either "normal" or "crazy," but in my experience, we’re all actually just constantly oscillating between those two fictional labels. We all exist somewhere in the middle—relatively normal and relatively crazy at the same time. It really just comes down to a question of degree, doesn't it? How much relativity are we talking about? 😁

Science just doesn't have an answer for schizophrenia yet... though, if you look at history, that’s usually the most common reason why science fails to provide a logically sound explanation. It’s either because they haven't found the right answer, or more likely, because they were looking at the whole thing from the wrong perspective entirely.

They say schizophrenia is an inability to distinguish dreams from reality, or fantasy from what's actually happening right in front of us. But honestly, haven't we all felt that sense of displacement at some point? Isn't that little bit of detachment present in everyone? I suppose the real question is just how far that needle swings on the scale before it eventually swings back.

Aren't we all a little bit schizophrenic when we look at the world around us? We tend to view everything through such a narrow lens—just a collection of governments, states, cities, neighborhoods, buildings, roads, and people going about their lives. We get so caught up in worrying about the weather, local politics, gas prices, being late for work, or obsessing over a movie director, a celebrity, a novelist, or some piece of art. But if you step back, isn't that just a tiny fraction of reality? Instead of seeing the grand tapestry of everything happening on this planet—the complex web of living organisms, some massive and some microscopic, all existing in symbiosis and constantly influencing one another through various natural processes—we focus on the trivial. And even that's just a small part of it! We forget about the vast interactions between planets, star systems, galaxies, and the endless cosmic mysteries out there in space. It’s easy to lose sight of the big picture when you're focused on the small stuff.

Isn't that just a fundamental inability to grasp reality? I mean, we're living in the 21st century now. We generally understand that if you were to zoom out on our country a million times—or even zoom in a million times—you’d simply see a vast collection of matter or organisms interacting with one another according to established laws. It's all right there if you look closely enough.

It’s happening again. With all that information tucked away in our heads, most of us spend our entire lives perceiving our "human rituals" and this "artificial environment" as the only reality. Our brains just automatically overlook the fact that everything around us—and even ourselves—is actually composed of billions of tiny individual components, which are themselves just infinitesimal parts of an even larger whole.

It’s much the same way with the brain of someone dealing with schizophrenia; they perceive their own version of reality, a sort of private illusion. They essentially bypass any information or data present within that mind which—according to our standard "rational logic"—would otherwise point out that what they are experiencing is nothing more than an illogical illusion.

Just like Bradley Fisher20 said at the beginning—they say schizophrenia is caused by a biochemical imbalance in the brain, but then again, maybe schizophrenia causes the imbalance...

Something just seizes my face, and before I even have a chance to process the thought that I should probably touch it, my brain triggers this entire chemical-biological-electrical reaction and instinctively sends my hand straight to the spot...
Scientific reality is just too heavy for me sometimes. It honestly gets overwhelming when I start thinking about the billions upon billions of planets hurtling through the vastness of space. It makes it difficult to stay grounded in my day-to-day surroundings. My brain essentially triggers this complex chemical, biological, and electrical reaction that chooses to ignore all those cosmic facts, instead presenting my immediate social environment to me as the only true reality.
Social reality is just getting to be too much for me... and then, damn it, it’s one jump after another. My brain essentially triggers this massive chemical-biological-electrical reaction that completely ignores the actual data, only to present me with something else entirely and pass it off as reality.

Throughout history, whenever humanity reaches that tipping point where we think we’re finally on the verge of uncovering "all the answers," we quickly realize we haven't even begun to grasp the full picture. It turns out our latest breakthroughs often clash head-on with everything we thought we knew about how the world works. It's a recurring cycle, really. Even today, modern science seems convinced we're just one discovery away from total clarity. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if, twenty years from now, we look back and realize we were completely off base regarding almost everything we currently consider established knowledge. History has a funny way of repeating itself like that.

So, look, the Earth was flat, but now it's round... maybe it turns out to be 167-dimensional 😁 ...right up until we hit the next "threshold of all answers," where we might suddenly realize the Earth is actually flat again, but we just convinced ourselves it was round because we couldn't wrap our heads around how something could be flat yet still connected at every single point—you know, that feeling of "I don't get how it could be that way, so it must definitely be this way." 🙄

I suppose... I’ve exaggerated quite a bit here, but honestly, in this latest caricature, I see something that works perfectly as an example...

The Earth is flat, because otherwise you'd fall off... the Earth pulls things toward itself, so that doesn't necessarily mean it's flat... the Earth is round because all points are connected to one another... and then, tomorrow, some genius physicist (who, by the way, is a man on the edge of reason, much like most geniuses—though a layman might call him a "borderline schizophrenic") writes a formula proving it doesn't have to be round for all points to be connected—and just like that, he sends the whole of science into a tailspin.

And if he were to suggest that the Earth might not be round just a day before he finishes that formula, everyone would just say he's LOST. 😁

Maybe he is, but as a final thought, I can say this: we're all a little crazy, especially me, considering how much I'm rambling about this. 😁

Oh, and yeah, just a tiny little detail that pretty much sums up our entire "rigorous scientific understanding of reality"...

The bedrock of science is mathematics...

It’s a body of knowledge passed down and refined through generations over millennia—dating all the way back to that very first Neanderthal who had to figure out if his haul was enough to feed his whole tribe...
A fundamental, primal science that today can practically tell us exactly how many aliens it would take to change a lightbulb on the other side of the universe... 🙄

And yet... this highly advanced science, the absolute pride of human civilization, fails to provide a decent, satisfying answer to one incredibly simple, literal question: what happens when you divide one by zero? (Aside from that classic, evasive "well, it approaches infinity" nonsense 🙄 yes, Professor, and gravity pulls things downward too, so does that count as two? 🙄 )

So, you just sit there, scratching your head without moving a single molecule... 😁

Thomas Mendoza5 said:Maybe so, but honestly—we’re all crazy, especially me since I’m talking so much trash here. 😁

Alright, look, we all know there's a fine line between genius and insanity, but I don't think you've crossed it just yet. 😁

The main thing is, when you take a peek into another world, don't slam the door behind you—don't forget it's just one way to interpret reality.

In that sense, people like you are actually the least crazy ones; anyone who can't wrap their head around someone else's reality is just as socially stunted.

Being totally "normal"... hmm... I don't know, that might actually need treating too. 😉

Anyway, in a society full of schizophrenics all watching the same movie, any "normal" person is gonna look nuts. It works both ways.

A little more tolerance for different perspectives and life would be easy.

math whiz, what's your take on this latest post? anything to add? any thoughts at all? 🙄 😉

is it tilting? or did it just slip out of place? 😁

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Thomas Mendoza5 said:It’s a totally simple, literal question—what is one divided by zero?

You think it's just some simple question—it's not. It's enough to drive anyone insane. 😁

So you just sit there scratching and itching without even moving a single molecule? 😁

🙏 🙏 🙏 😁 😁 😁

frozenangler9 said:That’s a question that could drive anyone mad.

That’s actually what I’ve been trying to get at this whole time...

It’s funny how one seemingly ordinary, simple question can actually lead someone down such a deep rabbit hole. If you really start dwelling on it, it can genuinely push a person to the point where they begin to doubt the very reality of everything around them...

In fact, I think you almost have to detach yourself from reality entirely just to contemplate it—mostly because it forces you to grapple with abstract concepts like nothingness and infinity.

There's this idea that people on the spectrum often possess incredibly high intelligence, while those dealing with schizophrenia might actually grasp the "true meaning of everything." It stands to reason that they would be the ones best equipped to understand the essence of existence—those who believe they truly see it, and those who are constantly striving to find it. After all, they are the ones with the least amount of friction with our standard societal reality...

And honestly, I think that alone is enough to make even an average person lose their grip and wonder, "Wait, who's actually the crazy one here?" 😁

Nobody’s actually insane, yet everyone is completely out of their minds.
It’s pretty straightforward, really...😉

I know quite a few of you might lose your minds ( 🙄 ) dealing with this much math and philosophy regarding health, but on this thread, at least for me, they seem to go hand in hand...

So, getting back to that concept of 1/0...

We can't truly grasp the value of 1/0... but I suspect our brains, deep in the subconscious, actually understand it. It’s just one of countless "formulas" embedded in the "BIOS software" of our subconscious... a single part of that grand equation of existence.

It's similar to how a computer built by humans can calculate functions that a human being couldn't possibly process manually; the machine uses those functions to perform its operations. In the same way, the brain we use employs functions that we, as conscious individuals, simply cannot comprehend...

While a portion of the brain belongs to our conscious self, the vast majority is simply hidden from us, sheltering so much within its depths...

And perhaps as a person slowly ventures into their subconscious and begins uncovering its secrets, they simultaneously drift away from conscious awareness... much like a train entering a tunnel—the deeper it travels inside, the less it exists in the world outside...

Hallucinations, meditation, various religions—people have long tried to prove there is a thin line between pure madness and true enlightenment. Honestly, maybe it's both...

To reach the deep ocean, you have to leave the shallows behind. But if you go too deep, you might never come back... and while you're stuck in the middle, you aren't even sure where you are...

Maybe the state of schizophrenia, or madness, however someone chooses to label it, is actually just a halfway house between consciousness and the subconscious...

Leaving consciousness to enter the subconscious, abandoning the world you know to step into the totally unknown—isn't it a logical result that this transition would lead to complete disorientation?

The rules of the old world no longer apply, yet you haven't learned the rules of the new world yet—so naturally, they end up clashing together...

And once you’ve fully entered the subconscious and left consciousness behind, how could anyone ever know what you’ve discovered in there? Perhaps autism is simply reaching a place in the brain that is so vivid, intelligent, and perfect that you simply never want to leave...

I mean, it's obvious that nature hides an immense amount of secrets from us, but all those secrets are hardwired into our brains because the brain itself operates based on them... (for the tech geeks out there—forgive my layman's terms here—you can easily embed source code into any program, but extracting it is never quite as simple)

"Remote viewing"—physically sitting in one spot while mentally traveling wherever you desire—has long been proven to exist. Even the CIA admitted to using it, and some results were even validated by other scientists analyzing their data. The mere fact that 99% of this has remained TOP SECRET for thirty years (!!!) (and if you don't believe me, it was even reported in the newspapers once) is enough proof that it's real... and it's tucked away somewhere in our subconscious...
Imagine being able to reach any corner of our galaxy with just your mind... and that's just one of those parapsychological abilities that we now know isn't science fiction, but a reality deeply hidden from us...

If you were to pass away and go to heaven—assuming it's as wonderful as they say—would anyone actually choose to come back to Earth if they had the chance?

frozenangler9 said:I have no idea what kind of radiation we're even talking about here—electromagnetic?

As they say, we're dealing with geo-pathogenic radiation—GPR.
GPR refers to a biologically active form of energy that hasn't been sufficiently studied yet. In its radiant form, it doesn't just impact humans; it wreaks havoc on the entire plant and animal kingdom. The common thread among all theories regarding how GPR works is that within its zone of influence, the conditions necessary for living organisms to function harmoniously are effectively neutralized.

There are several primary sources of GPR:

- underground water currents
- geological fault lines
- and GPR itself as a byproduct of the interaction between harmful solar and cosmic radiation spectra combined with Earth's magnetic fields and other environmental factors.

Thomas Mendoza5 👍

Even though I carry a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, I don't consider myself "crazy." Honestly, I don't even understand what being "crazy" is supposed to mean.
It isn't my fault if my mind operates on a different frequency than everyone else's. Is it my fault that I perceive things others miss? That I can seemingly slip into someone else's mind and know exactly what they're thinking while they're talking to me? Or that when I'm walking down a street, I don't just see the pavement beneath my feet, but rather the entire spinning globe rotating as I move?

Well, going back to that whole 1/0 thing...
I don't think we can truly grasp the scale of what 1/0 actually represents.

Maybe I’m not exactly sane, 😁 but to me, this question seems quite straightforward.
If we look at 4 divided by 2—to use a bit of imagery, say, how many times a two-liter bottle fits into a four-liter container (4/2=2)—then 1/0 works like this:

How many times does "nothing" fit into a one-liter bottle?
The answer is incredibly simple, at least in my estimation—it's infinite.

cy 🙂 Jason Morgan2

Jason Morgan2 said:Look, maybe I'm not totally sane 😁 but this question is actually pretty straightforward to me.
Think about it like 4 divided by 2—just to be a little visual here—how many times can two liters fit into a four-liter bottle? (4/2=2). Well, 1/0 works the exact same way:

How many times can nothingness fit into a one-liter bottle?
The answer is super simple (at least in my book)—infinity times.

cy 🙂 BHD

Hold up. BHD, it's not that simple. If nothing equals nothing... then how many times does negative nothing fit into a one-liter bottle? Negative infinity? Yeah, that's exactly the point 🙂. BTW, Geza is talking about zero vs. nothingness, so we should probably break down those two concepts before we try to give a real answer to this question 😁.

Just a disclaimer here: I am certainly not an expert when it comes to discussing mathematics. But let's try to look at this through some 'pure logic':
'Minus nothing' doesn't actually exist (in my view)—except perhaps as a mere mathematical notation.
The same goes for -2. That is just a mathematical way of saying, for instance, that I gave Bradley Fisher20 two dollars. In relation to how much I had a moment ago, I am down 'two dollars.' The money hasn't vanished into thin air, nor do Ipossess 'negative two dollars'—the money is simply with Bradley Fisher20. Perhaps he might return it to me.🙂

Jason Morgan2 said:I'm down two bucks—Bradley Fisher20 has them. Maybe he'll actually pay me back. 🙂

Well, he isn't crazy, 😁

but if you're sitting there expecting to see that money again, then you might be the crazy one. 😁

However, if he's actually wild enough to give them back to you, and you end up with your cash, then it turns out you weren't crazy after all. 😁

See how madness is just a matter of relativity? 🙄

Ugh, seriously? What did you even do to this thread... 👋sorry:. First off, let me just say it’s way better to be two bucks in the hole than to have absolutely nothing.

Second. When you're approaching zero through debt, you're just getting deeper and deeper into the red. But if you're approaching zero by spending down what you actually have, then you're just slowly losing cash. There's a massive difference between being broke because you owe money and being broke because you spent it all. At zero, those two paths collide at one single point. And that point is totally undefined specifically because it matters so much how you got there.

Anyway. Let's get back to the actual topic.

User123 said:Even though I have a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, I don't consider myself crazy. Honestly, I don't even know what "being crazy" is supposed to mean.

Okay. So, what does it mean to be crazy? To me, it's when someone can't even take care of themselves because of some mental health issue. Whether you're crazy or not, you'll find out pretty quick by seeing if you can actually manage your own life. Without breaking things, without all the bullshit.

If you can handle yourself, you aren't crazy, you're just different. If you can't... well, damn.

Thomas Mendoza5 said:but honestly, you basically have to completely check out of reality just to even think about it—since it involves totally insane concepts like nothingness and infinity

It’s better not to fry your brain with stuff like that. It's way too easy to get lost 🙂.

they say people on the spectrum are most likely incredibly high-functioning geniuses, while those dealing with schizophrenia actually grasp the "meaning of everything"—clearly they're the ones who should understand the essence best, the ones who believe they understand it best, and the ones trying their hardest to grasp it—the ones with the least connection to our actual reality...

Experience tells me most folks on the spectrum aren't all that bright. Maybe because they're stuck in the same rut their whole lives and never really grow...

And schizophrenia? Nah. Being a little detached doesn't push you away from life, it actually makes things easier. Living in a fantasy world works too.

that was the first one, right?