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Organ donation after death: thoughts and experiences?

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Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
110 messages
joined Jan 2006
#341 ·
What’s really the difference when someone donates bone marrow voluntarily versus doing it for money? Technically, the process is identical. They end up at the hospital, undergo all the screenings, get put under general anesthesia, have their pelvic bone drilled, and lose maybe 5% of their marrow. Then they spend a day in the ward recovering from the anesthesia, head home, deal with surgical pain for a week or two while the marrow regenerates, and within a couple of months, they’re back to 100%—exactly where they started.

Of course, the official medical line is that you need less time to recover if the procedure is smaller, but if you listen to actual patient experiences, that's rarely the case. Surgeons tend to be overly optimistic about recovery times; they usually brush off minor pains. It's the classic "you can stand up without screaming, so you're fine" approach.

Regarding the actual impact: if we allowed payment, we’d likely see a much larger pool of donors. Right now, very few people are altruistic enough to undergo surgery just for some stranger. For a loved one? Sure. But the odds of finding a compatible match in a family member are slim. Naturally, the wealthy would have the advantage, while those struggling would have to hope their insurance covers the donor's compensation, but that’s just fair play. Ultimately, it would significantly increase the number of available donors.

From a moral standpoint, look at what the donor goes through: physical pain, discomfort, being exposed to a controlled but real risk, and losing income while they recover. Providing material compensation to a donor is perfectly reasonable. It’s no different than compensating any other worker. Very few people are willing to volunteer their labor for free, and the same logic applies to marrow donation. The current system is flawed, but because the powerful, sluggish bureaucracies of our healthcare organizations have their own interests to protect, there's almost no chance of seeing real change anytime soon.
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#342 ·
I am posting in the HEALTH section for the first time, as my usual focus is on PSYCHOLOGY...
I am not sure if this has already been discussed here.
If it has, please feel free to simply ignore this thread...
I find myself in a situation where my mother needs a liver transplant due to cirrhosis caused by Hepatitis C, which she contracted during a surgery 18 years ago, back when that virus wasn't even recognized...
I wonder if our society—and myself personally—must first endure such a terrible tragedy before we wake up and realize that any one of us could be a potential donor. Or perhaps we need to read the letter from young Ana Rukavina, who pleaded for her life only to ultimately lose the battle because no one, from the government down to individual citizens, realized that stem cell research could one day save a life like hers.
It is heartbreaking that our fellow Americans waiting for organs face each of their days with dread, simply thanking God they made it through another night.
It is terrifying to look at the statistics: in just the first eight months of last year, there were only 48 liver transplants performed, yet in those same eight months, at least a thousand citizens died who could have been potential donors... to say nothing of kidney shortages...
Most of you likely won't find this relevant, as I certainly didn't care about it until I faced this tragedy—until the woman who carried me for nine months and nursed me with her own milk now requires a new organ just to stay alive...
I encourage anyone interested to comment on this thread, or at the very least, give some thought to what I have written...
THANK YOU
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
225 messages
joined May 2006
#343 ·
I agree with you that we need to focus more on public education. Many people hold terrible prejudices regarding organ donation because they simply don't know enough. It is truly a tragedy that so many premature deaths occur just due to this lack of awareness... especially concerning the liver, which has such an incredible capacity to regenerate. We really ought to prioritize educating the public about post-mortem consent, ensuring decisions are made while organs remain viable...
Carol Parker Carol Parker Member
34 messages
joined Jan 2007
#344 ·
Personally, I’d donate everything I have—assuming someone could actually make use of it. I honestly don't get why some people refuse to do that after they pass, especially when it's a literal life-saver for someone else. I'm not entirely sure how the system works here in the States, but I always had this nagging thought that doctors might just take organs if they need them without anyone finding out, like maybe the family wouldn't even realize. That sounds pretty grim, and I guess it's just confusing why we don't have a more streamlined, transparent system where everyone's donor status is clearly flagged.
I'm really hoping your mom manages to get that new liver.😘
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
222 messages
joined Nov 2012
#345 ·
So, I've had one of those donor cards for a few years now, I guess... 🙂
I mean, I feel like that pretty much says everything I wanted to say, you know? 🙂
Sam Hall15 Sam Hall15 Active Member
225 messages
joined May 2006
#346 ·
I believe the current law states that if a person is presumed deceased and hasn't explicitly opted out of organ donation, doctors can proceed without needing family consent. 😁
I'm personally in favor of donation, though I can't help but recall those two horror stories about people waking up in coffins... they weren't exactly saved, but they ended up clawing at their fingertips and lying face down. Aaaaaaa...
Jerry Moore2 Jerry Moore2 Active Member
69 messages
joined Oct 2003
#347 ·
I don't know... ever since I watched that one British movie about this topic, plus some stuff I saw back when I was a kid regarding cloning, I've been strictly against those donor cards. In this day and age, just about any lunatic can commit a murder. There are way too many people out there getting filthy rich by exploiting this kind of thing. 😢
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
446 messages
joined Mar 2024
#348 ·
There used to be this really beautiful thread on this sub about organ donation—so much good stuff was said there. I can't seem to track it down right now, but I'm not giving up just yet 🙂

Once I dig it up, I'll merge these two threads... honestly, there are some perspectives in there that are actually worth reading.

Jerry Moore2, all this nonsense about "some crazy person might kill you" is just total BS—it's basically just looking for excuses and apologies that nobody even asked for. It’s enough to just say, "I don't want to donate my organs." Anyone with an ounce of decency here will respect that choice without questioning it. These claims that you should be scared someone's gonna murder you for your organs are, at the very least, laughable.

btw, were you obsessed with those cloning movies when you were a kid?????? 🤣 🤣 Boys from Brazil? What does that even have to do with anything?
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#349 ·
shadowfox75 said:I am posting in the HEALTH section for the first time, as my usual focus is on PSYCHOLOGY...
I am not sure if this has already been discussed here.
If it has, please feel free to simply ignore this thread...
I find myself in a situation where my mother needs a liver transplant due to cirrhosis caused by Hepatitis C, which she contracted during a surgery 18 years ago, back when that virus wasn't even recognized...
I wonder if our society—and myself personally—must first endure such a terrible tragedy before we wake up and realize that any one of us could be a potential donor. Or perhaps we need to read the letter from young Ana Rukavina, who pleaded for her life only to ultimately lose the battle because no one, from the government down to individual citizens, realized that stem cell research could one day save a life like hers.
It is heartbreaking that our fellow Americans waiting for organs face each of their days with dread, simply thanking God they made it through another night.
It is terrifying to look at the statistics: in just the first eight months of last year, there were only 48 liver transplants performed, yet in those same eight months, at least a thousand citizens died who could have been potential donors... to say nothing of kidney shortages...
Most of you likely won't find this relevant, as I certainly didn't care about it until I faced this tragedy—until the woman who carried me for nine months and nursed me with her own milk now requires a new organ just to stay alive...
I encourage anyone interested to comment on this thread, or at the very least, give some thought to what I have written...
THANK YOU

I know exactly how you feel. My mom is sick too, though in her case, there's no saving her.
Don't be surprised that people aren't jumping to engage with topics that involve illness and death. To the average person, a serious disease is synonymous with death, and talking about it is treated like a taboo. Death is unsettling; it shatters that sense of (fake) security we all cling to. Deep down, we all know we are mortal, but we don't want to burden ourselves by dwelling on someone else's sickness or their inevitable end.
Just let me ask you this: can you see clearly now who your true friends really are?
For my family, my mother's illness acted as the perfect filter for exactly that.

I hope your mother finds a donor as soon as possible (even if that means someone else's passing). Honestly, I just want a resolution for her and for everything to work out the best way possible. As for you, I wish you all the strength in the world so you can be her rock through this.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
446 messages
joined Mar 2024
#350 ·
Jose Miller3 said:There used to be this really beautiful thread on this sub about organ donation—so much good stuff was said there. I can't seem to track it down right now, but I'm not giving up just yet 🙂

Once I dig it up, I'll merge these two threads... honestly, there are some perspectives in there that are actually worth reading.

Jerry Moore2, all this nonsense about "some crazy person might kill you" is just total BS—it's basically just looking for excuses and apologies that nobody even asked for. It’s enough to just say, "I don't want to donate my organs." Anyone with an ounce of decency here will respect that choice without questioning it. These claims that you should be scared someone's gonna murder you for your organs are, at the very least, laughable.

btw, were you obsessed with those cloning movies when you were a kid?????? 🤣 🤣 Boys from Brazil? What does that even have to do with anything?

found it... 😉
boldstag78 boldstag78 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2007
#351 ·
I haven't had the heart to read through everything because two separate threads were merged right as I was about to post my own thoughts. That being said, what I have managed to read is quite surprising, if not entirely shocking. Perhaps I am simply too naive in my belief in humanity, but I absolutely cannot ignore comments along the lines of "they're half-dead anyway, so why bother saving them." My firm conviction remains that a doctor's primary mission is to save lives, and in those critical moments, they aren't thinking about organ availability or whether someone happens to carry a donor card.
Personally, I am a registered donor, and my family and my physician are all fully aware of my decision. There is simply no reason to let an organ go to waste when it could be used to give someone else a second chance at life.
loneranger18 loneranger18 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2007
#352 ·
Look, donating organs is a noble move, no question about it. But you don't all need to jump down our throats just because we aren't donors or probably won't be. Don't get me wrong—if someone close to me needs a kidney or bone marrow while I'm still around, I’ll step up in a heartbeat. There's no problem there. But if they're pulling an organ out of my corpse only for it to end up with whoever happens to be at the top of some list (and let's face it, it's often people with connections rather than kids or parents), then absolutely not. I want to know exactly where my parts are going, and I can't control that once I'm gone.

As for Ana Rukavina, hats off to her, may she rest in peace. The idea of creating a stem cell bank is fantastic, and I'll definitely contribute my part to that cause. However, I'm not handing over my blood until they figure out a way to collect it that doesn't involve needles... regardless of how ridiculous that might sound to some people.
hollowraven hollowraven Newcomer
6 messages
joined May 2007
#353 ·
loneranger18 said:Look, donating organs is a noble move, no question about it. But you don't all need to jump down our throats just because we aren't donors or probably won't be. Don't get me wrong—if someone close to me needs a kidney or bone marrow while I'm still around, I’ll step up in a heartbeat. There's no problem there. But if they're pulling an organ out of my corpse only for it to end up with whoever happens to be at the top of some list (and let's face it, it's often people with connections rather than kids or parents), then absolutely not. I want to know exactly where my parts are going, and I can't control that once I'm gone.

As for Ana Rukavina, hats off to her, may she rest in peace. The idea of creating a stem cell bank is fantastic, and I'll definitely contribute my part to that cause. However, I'm not handing over my blood until they figure out a way to collect it that doesn't involve needles... regardless of how ridiculous that might sound to some people.

Regarding the section I bolded: Are you talking about the United States? Are you one hundred percent certain of that, and do you actually have evidence? Or are you just making assumptions?

As for the rest: I don't see why anyone would care to know anything during a moment when they are certain they can no longer learn anything else, if you catch my drift. 😬 🤣

Edit: If you suffer from a phobia of needles, that is something that can be treated. Regardless of the topic.
Timothy Cox2 Timothy Cox2 Active Member
52 messages
joined Feb 2003
#354 ·
What are your thoughts on organ donation? Is anyone here actually on the registry? I haven't quite made my peace with the idea yet. I just can't bring myself to commit to it, even though I know if the situation ever came down to it, I definitely wouldn't be the one needing someone else's organs (which, hopefully, are still in great shape). I'm totally fine with donating blood, but this other thing? I'm still on the fence.
Justin Gonzalez87 Justin Gonzalez87 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2005
#355 ·
I haven't made anything official yet—but I have let my inner circle know that if anything happens to me, they should feel free to take whatever they need and pass it along 😁 😍
stormywalker19 stormywalker19 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2007
#356 ·
Honestly, I’ve had my donor card since I turned 18, and I don't regret signing up at all. I mean, sure, I used to wonder if my organs would go to someone truly in need or someone with more "influence," but truthfully, I just don't care anymore... whoever gets them, they'll be saving a life!
But let's be real for a second—if you had all the money in the world and your child was sick, would you actually wait on a list, or would you spend every cent possible just to save them?
Michael Perez5 Michael Perez5 Active Member
81 messages
joined Nov 2004
#357 ·
Of course they’d give up everything they have...
Harold Ramirez49 Harold Ramirez49 Member
22 messages
joined Sep 2008
#358 ·
darkbison81 said:It happens. Look, I'm not saying this is some daily occurrence, but a lot of stars have to align for something like that to even be possible (which I touched on in my last post). Naturally, if you aren't a specific blood type, you're at much lower risk. Besides, it isn't hard to sweep rare, "good deed" type events under the rug.


Honestly, reading what this Luca (or whoever is typing) is saying gives me the chills. Personally, I think they should probably check in with a local mental health clinic given how paranoid this sounds. On top of that, spreading blatant misinformation like this really ought to be against the law. My advice? Try educating yourself using actual medical literature instead of just relying on hearsay before jumping into serious discussions.
Tyler Diaz4 Tyler Diaz4 Member
18 messages
joined Jun 2010
#359 ·
A pile of nonsense and paranoia!😲😂🙏 👎

A donor card is simply a way to signal to your family that you had the intention to be a donor; ultimately, the final decision rests with them.
Doctors are required to obtain family consent before any organs can be donated. If a patient passes away in a hospital, an autopsy is mandatory. If a family wishes to waive the autopsy, they must seek a second opinion from the attending physician and receive approval from the hospital director.
An autopsy doesn't mean a pathologist immediately harvests everything to ship off to billionaires across the globe... it is performed to accurately determine the cause of death.

If you don't wish to be a donor, the process is quite straightforward: you visit your primary care physician and fill out a form. You keep one copy, one goes in your medical file, and one is entered into the national registry, and that’s that.

Please, show some maturity and consider the logistics—the time required to prepare both recipients and donors, and the limited window for organ viability. Stop acting like children at a playground.
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
315 messages
joined Jun 2005
#360 ·
Oh man... you two seriously dug up a thread from five years ago!?😁

ps. pathologists don't just go around harvesting organs, you know.

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