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crimsonwalker9 crimsonwalker9 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I’m looking for some guidance or perhaps a solid recommendation here. Basically, I’ve been on the hunt for a smaller firm in the States that’s currently scouting for investors, or maybe one that’s looking to offload all or just a portion of its operations.

Now, I totally get that this kind of intel usually lands in your lap by pure chance—either through some high-level networking or by pinpointing a specific company and reaching out to the owner directly.

But beyond that, are there any other forums, niche boards, or similar circles where someone might actually stumble upon this kind of information?
casualranger2 casualranger2 Member
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#2 ·
Here’s the one thing I’ve picked up after all these years: you have to go looking for a problem. Not some abstract, theoretical nonsense, but a real, nagging, everyday headache—the kind of stuff that’s constantly staring you in the face. Once you find that, then you start working on the solution. Don't just sit there waiting for some lightning bolt of genius to strike you out of nowhere. A truly solid idea doesn't just fall into your lap; you have to sweat it out, grind through it, and really chew on it. So, stop looking at the horizon and start looking at what's right in front of you. That's where the real ideas are hiding.
Charles Howard74 Charles Howard74 Member
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joined Feb 2009
#3 ·
honestly, this tip alone beats those first 10 PDFs you'd usually slog through

you might even want to hunt down a specific niche to dive into at the start
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#4 ·
crimsonwalker9 said:I’m looking for some guidance or perhaps a solid recommendation here. Basically, I’ve been on the hunt for a smaller firm in the States that’s currently scouting for investors, or maybe one that’s looking to offload all or just a portion of its operations.

Now, I totally get that this kind of intel usually lands in your lap by pure chance—either through some high-level networking or by pinpointing a specific company and reaching out to the owner directly.

But beyond that, are there any other forums, niche boards, or similar circles where someone might actually stumble upon this kind of information?

Look, I think there are definitely companies out there that just milk clients by peddling some fake credit rating or whatever.

Just Google "business credit" and ask them how much it costs to pull a report on those "gazelles"—you know, the ones showing basic revenue and growth patterns.
If you aren't looking at just this current year, try hunting for an LLC that’s been growing for five years straight but whose curve has finally started to dip—that's your signal they're hungry for capital.

Once you've profiled about a hundred of them and narrowed it down to at least ten, come back here and let us know which industries they're actually in.

Honestly, it's a pretty risky bet because, in the stock market, you could take that same amount of money and spread it across at least five different businesses. Plus, all those filings are public record and easy to find if you know where to look.
It might actually be smarter to just put your money into some kind of venture capital fund.
Personally, I wouldn't even touch direct investing unless I had something like $1 million in liquid cash sitting there—and even then, only if I had experience running a massive operation of that scale.
silverviper44 silverviper44 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#5 ·
Are you some kind of masochist?

Everyone is fleeing the States, yet you’re looking to invest here?

Good luck with that.
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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#6 ·
Why would you even bother going? Just because you didn't know how to handle things back then doesn't mean you should try to block him now.

The whole idea behind low interest rates is basically forcing people to push their savings—their allocation, if you will—into much riskier territory.
I'd take that over some government stimulus package from the federal government any day.
What we're seeing here is the beginning of real oversight. For instance, I’d honestly pay someone like a high-end fashion consultant just to give me their take after looking over my balance sheet. Look, I’m not exactly a huge fan of Elon Musk, but if I had decided to jump in, I’d be looking to grow my seed money right now. That’s why we really need more venture capital funds out there. Maybe we should even let retirees have the option to seed about 0.1% of their assets into startups.
silverviper44 silverviper44 Active Member
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#7 ·
Larry Wilson25 said:Why would you even bother going? Just because you didn't know how to handle things back then doesn't mean you should try to block him now.

The whole idea behind low interest rates is basically forcing people to push their savings—their allocation, if you will—into much riskier territory.
I'd take that over some government stimulus package from the federal government any day.
What we're seeing here is the beginning of real oversight. For instance, I’d honestly pay someone like a high-end fashion consultant just to give me their take after looking over my balance sheet. Look, I’m not exactly a huge fan of Elon Musk, but if I had decided to jump in, I’d be looking to grow my seed money right now. That’s why we really need more venture capital funds out there. Maybe we should even let retirees have the option to seed about 0.1% of their assets into startups.

Who’s to blame here? Is it my fault I don't have any buddies in high places, or that I refused to play ball with corrupt politicians?

Based on what you wrote, I guess that's exactly who you are.
crimsonwalker9 crimsonwalker9 NewcomerOP
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casualranger2 said:Here’s the one thing I’ve picked up after all these years: you have to go looking for a problem. Not some abstract, theoretical nonsense, but a real, nagging, everyday headache—the kind of stuff that’s constantly staring you in the face. Once you find that, then you start working on the solution. Don't just sit there waiting for some lightning bolt of genius to strike you out of nowhere. A truly solid idea doesn't just fall into your lap; you have to sweat it out, grind through it, and really chew on it. So, stop looking at the horizon and start looking at what's right in front of you. That's where the real ideas are hiding.

I couldn't agree more. My personal strategy is just to hunt for those specific scenarios where someone has already put in the heavy lifting on the groundwork, but they’re struggling to scale or manage the business alone, making them perfectly primed for an investor to step in.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
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#9 ·
crimsonwalker9 said:I’m looking for some guidance or perhaps a solid recommendation here. Basically, I’ve been on the hunt for a smaller firm in the States that’s currently scouting for investors, or maybe one that’s looking to offload all or just a portion of its operations.

Now, I totally get that this kind of intel usually lands in your lap by pure chance—either through some high-level networking or by pinpointing a specific company and reaching out to the owner directly.

But beyond that, are there any other forums, niche boards, or similar circles where someone might actually stumble upon this kind of information?

What kind of industry are we talking about? Just a general idea would help, I guess.

And what’s the endgame for the capital? Are you looking for passive growth where the money just works itself? Or are you planning to jump in and scale things up? I mean, do you want to be hands-on or just watch from the sidelines?

Are you leaning toward something with modest returns and a long-term hold, or something with more upside potential—though that obviously comes with a hell of a lot more risk.
Jacob Alvarez Jacob Alvarez Active Member
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joined Apr 2021
#10 ·
crimsonwalker9 said:I couldn't agree more. My personal strategy is just to hunt for those specific scenarios where someone has already put in the heavy lifting on the groundwork, but they’re struggling to scale or manage the business alone, making them perfectly primed for an investor to step in.

That doesn't exist.
If someone actually spotted a gap in the market and exploited it, they either already have investors breathing down their neck or they don't need the cash at all. So, what are you really looking for? Someone who "built something" without even realizing how big it actually is? Honestly, I think you need some serious grit and experience just to recognize when that happens. Not to mention, finding that kind of talent in America is a needle in a haystack.

If I were you, I'd go old school—like how people did things in the States fifty years ago: put an ad in the paper. State clearly that you’re an investor, list your budget, and put out a call for business plans. Let the best one win the chance to take your money.
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#11 ·
silverviper44 said:Who’s to blame here? Is it my fault I don't have any buddies in high places, or that I refused to play ball with corrupt politicians?

Based on what you wrote, I guess that's exactly who you are.

Man, please—don't go posting nonsense like that out of nowhere. It’s just ridiculous. 😁
Look, maybe we aren't exactly "easy" when it comes to doing business, but he isn't just looking for a way to scrape by or move overseas—he wants to hit it big (okay, maybe that's a stretch, but you know what I mean!). He wants to invest and actually see a return.
There are plenty of fast-moving startups out there that would kill for some seed capital without having to jump through endless hoops or deal with massive interest rates.
If he had just bought into something like Marriott or some other big corporate giant, I bet he'd be sitting pretty right now.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#12 ·
crimsonwalker9 said:I couldn't agree more. My personal strategy is just to hunt for those specific scenarios where someone has already put in the heavy lifting on the groundwork, but they’re struggling to scale or manage the business alone, making them perfectly primed for an investor to step in.

Around here, people tend to lean toward bank loans rather than bringing in investors. That said, there's plenty of equity compensation out there—you can often find someone who's sitting on some equity but just doesn't want the headache of managing it.
silverviper44 silverviper44 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#13 ·
Larry Wilson25 said:Man, please—don't go posting nonsense like that out of nowhere. It’s just ridiculous. 😁
Look, maybe we aren't exactly "easy" when it comes to doing business, but he isn't just looking for a way to scrape by or move overseas—he wants to hit it big (okay, maybe that's a stretch, but you know what I mean!). He wants to invest and actually see a return.
There are plenty of fast-moving startups out there that would kill for some seed capital without having to jump through endless hoops or deal with massive interest rates.
If he had just bought into something like Marriott or some other big corporate giant, I bet he'd be sitting pretty right now.

Man, you really have no idea what you're talking about.
urbanwalker72 urbanwalker72 Active Member
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#14 ·
Enough is enough. We have to put an end to this cycle of insults.
crimsonwalker9 crimsonwalker9 NewcomerOP
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#15 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:What kind of industry are we talking about? Just a general idea would help, I guess.

And what’s the endgame for the capital? Are you looking for passive growth where the money just works itself? Or are you planning to jump in and scale things up? I mean, do you want to be hands-on or just watch from the sidelines?

Are you leaning toward something with modest returns and a long-term hold, or something with more upside potential—though that obviously comes with a hell of a lot more risk.

I fully intend to be involved. I’ve built an incredibly broad network both here in the States and throughout neighboring countries. Right now, I’m managing two companies that pull in roughly $10 million in annual revenue. They aren't mine, though, so I’m looking for my own shot at building something.

Long-term plays don't scare me; I just have zero interest in wasting my time on opportunities that look like they've already hit their ceiling right out of the gate.

Do you have a specific concept in mind?
crimsonwalker9 crimsonwalker9 NewcomerOP
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#16 ·
Jacob Alvarez said:That doesn't exist.
If someone actually spotted a gap in the market and exploited it, they either already have investors breathing down their neck or they don't need the cash at all. So, what are you really looking for? Someone who "built something" without even realizing how big it actually is? Honestly, I think you need some serious grit and experience just to recognize when that happens. Not to mention, finding that kind of talent in America is a needle in a haystack.

If I were you, I'd go old school—like how people did things in the States fifty years ago: put an ad in the paper. State clearly that you’re an investor, list your budget, and put out a call for business plans. Let the best one win the chance to take your money.

Now that's interesting!

Which paper are you thinking of? Something like the Wall Street Journal, or just a local daily?
David Ruiz15 David Ruiz15 Newcomer
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#17 ·
crimsonwalker9 said:Now that's interesting!

Which paper are you thinking of? Something like the Wall Street Journal, or just a local daily?


From what I gather, most people in the States tend to go through Indiegogo or Kickstarter campaigns...
In America, it’s usually more about hitting up the media, various startup trade shows (like Saso or ViroExpo), entrepreneurship competitions (like get in the ring Split), or those local business incubators...

I actually have a few ideas that haven't really been tapped into yet, so I'd be pretty open to collaborating. I'll shoot you a PM.
Bradley Baker2 Bradley Baker2 Newcomer
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#18 ·
crimsonwalker9 said:I’m looking for some guidance or perhaps a solid recommendation here. Basically, I’ve been on the hunt for a smaller firm in the States that’s currently scouting for investors, or maybe one that’s looking to offload all or just a portion of its operations.

Now, I totally get that this kind of intel usually lands in your lap by pure chance—either through some high-level networking or by pinpointing a specific company and reaching out to the owner directly.

But beyond that, are there any other forums, niche boards, or similar circles where someone might actually stumble upon this kind of information?

That is exactly what I am hunting for right now... if you’re still on the lookout, please—do reach out...
crimsonwalker9 crimsonwalker9 NewcomerOP
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#19 ·
I’m constantly on the hunt for the next smart place to put my money

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