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Ban on selling and using fireworks

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goldenviper752 goldenviper752 Member
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#41 ·
velvetmaker3 said:The reality is that kids are mostly the ones using them, and they use them incredibly irresponsibly—throwing them at other kids, tossing them in the air, or letting them land wherever. They land so close to people sometimes that it's a miracle we don't see more injuries. They throw them under cars so people think they have a flat tire, and stuff like that. We shouldn't have to be victims of unruly kids running wild.
If something doesn't exist, it can't be abused.
And who is this actually boosting their mood? Is anyone really in a bad mood until they light a few firecrackers? Not really. It just boosts their mood to act out.

Ban the product, then go after the smugglers and the consumers—basically, those unruly kids—and they won't bother doing it again once they face some consequences.
It's hard to wipe it out entirely, but you could certainly cut down on it with decent enforcement.

That is where the whole logic falls apart. First off, they aren't sold to children. If someone wants to give one to a minor, well, they should face the legal repercussions of that choice.

If you're being so stubborn that you can't grasp the idea that certain things bring people joy, then honestly, that's your own issue.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#42 ·
goldenviper752 said:That is where the whole logic falls apart. First off, they aren't sold to children. If someone wants to give one to a minor, well, they should face the legal repercussions of that choice.

If you're being so stubborn that you can't grasp the idea that certain things bring people joy, then honestly, that's your own issue.

Drugs make people happy,
so they won't let him have his legal fix.

Straw,
or maybe just those gray cells?😁
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#43 ·
goldenviper752 said:That is where the whole logic falls apart. First off, they aren't sold to children. If someone wants to give one to a minor, well, they should face the legal repercussions of that choice.

If you're being so stubborn that you can't grasp the idea that certain things bring people joy, then honestly, that's your own issue.

I don't doubt for a second that they enjoy it. But how many lives do they have to ruin just to get a thrill? I couldn't care less about their fun if it means harassing everyone else.
Honestly, just lock them all in a room and dump a box of firecrackers in there; let them have their little party then.

The vast majority of people I see setting off fireworks are minors. Is that your experience—that adults are out here doing it? Any adult throwing fireworks around should probably be sent for a psychiatric evaluation. It's not like I haven't seen guys in their 20s lighting them off and giggling like toddlers; it looks incredibly weird, like they aren't even aware of how they're coming across.
Most of the time, we're talking about kids, and kids are exactly who these pointless toys are designed for.
goldenviper752 goldenviper752 Member
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#44 ·
I find myself pondering the nuances of this particular matter—much like one might contemplate the structural integrity of a skyscraper during a sudden gust of wind—and I simply cannot help but feel that KRIN1 has touched upon something rather profound here. It is quite a thought, really—if a bit unconventional—but there is a certain logic to it that deserves a closer look! kaže:
People seem to find their joy in all sorts of things—sometimes it’s the simple pleasures, and other times... well, let's just say they turn to certain substances to lift the spirits. It's a curious thing, really—how different folks seek out their own little escapes from the daily grind.
Well, they simply won't let him play by the rules—it’s just not allowed. It reminds me a bit of those overly strict HOA regulations you see in certain upscale suburbs—you know the type—where even if you have a perfectly reasonable idea, someone pulls out a handbook to tell you "no." It's quite frustrating, really!

straw,
Or perhaps the gray stations? 😁

I am truly at a loss here—I can't quite decide if I should have the heart to actually respond to this individual, or if I should just let their comment about comparing narcotics to firecrackers slide into total obscurity. It’s one of those moments where you pause, take a breath, and wonder if engaging is even worth the mental energy.
velvetmaker3 said:I don't doubt for a second that they enjoy it. But how many lives do they have to ruin just to get a thrill? I couldn't care less about their fun if it means harassing everyone else.
Honestly, just lock them all in a room and dump a box of firecrackers in there; let them have their little party then.

The vast majority of people I see setting off fireworks are minors. Is that your experience—that adults are out here doing it? Any adult throwing fireworks around should probably be sent for a psychiatric evaluation. It's not like I haven't seen guys in their 20s lighting them off and giggling like toddlers; it looks incredibly weird, like they aren't even aware of how they're coming across.
Most of the time, we're talking about kids, and kids are exactly who these pointless toys are designed for.

Whose lives are we even talking about? 😲 Are you on something? Seriously—I mean, I’m not judging, per se, but that was quite the leap! It felt a bit like watching someone try to parallel park a semi-truck in a compact space—just completely out of left field—so I had to pause and wonder if we were even reading the same page here. 😲

Honestly, if you just rounded them all up into one room and showered them with firecrackers—just a massive, celebratory barrage—they’d be celebrating themselves into oblivion! It sounds a bit chaotic, I know—much like trying to organize a Fourth of July block party in downtown Chicago when everyone's already had too much soda—but there's a certain logic to the madness, don't you think? Just pure, unadulterated excitement.

If you ask me—and I suppose that is exactly what you are doing here—I would love to see every single person out there coughing in public without covering their mouth simply ushered straight into an infectious disease ward at a major metropolitan hospital. Why stop there? We should just bundle them up with the most critically ill patients imaginable and let them trade germs until they have exchanged every possible strain of whatever they are carrying! It seems like a perfectly logical, albeit slightly extreme, way to handle the situation, wouldn't you agree?

It seems to me—and I say this after observing quite a few neighborhood disturbances lately—that about 99% of the people I see recklessly tossing firecrackers around are nothing more than minors. It’s a classic case of youthful impulsivity, really. But I have to wonder, in your neck of the woods, are you seeing adults doing this too? Because if an actual adult—someone who should know better—is out there lighting explosives, I honestly believe they ought to be sent for a psychiatric evaluation. Don't get me wrong; I haven't missed the occasional twenty-something acting out, either. I’ve seen guys well into their twenties throwing these things and then standing there with this incredibly infantile, giddy grin on their faces—it’s a truly bizarre sight to behold. It’s just... strange. If those individuals were actually self-aware and possessed a shred of maturity, they simply wouldn't behave that way. It’s like watching someone refuse to grow up, even when the consequences are sitting right in front of them.

Call the police!
At the end of the day—and I really think we have to look at this through a certain lens here—it mostly comes down to the kids. It’s about them. The primary audience for all that mindless, hollow entertainment is children, after all—which is exactly why it feels so incredibly pointless when you stop to actually analyze the substance behind it.

No, they aren't—report them all!
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#45 ·
velvetmaker3 said:I don't doubt for a second that they enjoy it. But how many lives do they have to ruin just to get a thrill? I couldn't care less about their fun if it means harassing everyone else.
Honestly, just lock them all in a room and dump a box of firecrackers in there; let them have their little party then.

The vast majority of people I see setting off fireworks are minors. Is that your experience—that adults are out here doing it? Any adult throwing fireworks around should probably be sent for a psychiatric evaluation. It's not like I haven't seen guys in their 20s lighting them off and giggling like toddlers; it looks incredibly weird, like they aren't even aware of how they're coming across.
Most of the time, we're talking about kids, and kids are exactly who these pointless toys are designed for.


Man, imagine how much fun they'd actually have!

And don't forget about goldenviper752 😁
goldenviper752 goldenviper752 Member
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#46 ·
velvetmaker3 said:I don't doubt for a second that they enjoy it. But how many lives do they have to ruin just to get a thrill? I couldn't care less about their fun if it means harassing everyone else.
Honestly, just lock them all in a room and dump a box of firecrackers in there; let them have their little party then.

The vast majority of people I see setting off fireworks are minors. Is that your experience—that adults are out here doing it? Any adult throwing fireworks around should probably be sent for a psychiatric evaluation. It's not like I haven't seen guys in their 20s lighting them off and giggling like toddlers; it looks incredibly weird, like they aren't even aware of how they're coming across.
Most of the time, we're talking about kids, and kids are exactly who these pointless toys are designed for.

Charles Lopez3 said:Man, imagine how much fun they'd actually have!

And don't forget about goldenviper752 😁


And then you and Eminem would both end up getting cited by the local police for setting off pyrotechnics indoors. ☕
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#47 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Man, imagine how much fun they'd actually have!

And don't forget about goldenviper752 😁


He'd be having the time of his life over there, just setting off firecrackers everywhere—you'd hear another one popping off from somewhere in the distance.
nimblelynx7 nimblelynx7 Regular
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#48 ·
placidrider48 said:Unfortunately, not everyone is lucky enough to live in a house with soundproofing.

Fine. If they want the government to fix the firework situation, maybe the government should just step in and install soundproofing for them too. Given how much tolerance they've shown lately, they clearly have plenty of room for improvement throughout the rest of the year.
Casey Fowler Casey Fowler NewcomerOP
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#49 ·
According to reports from the children's hospital in Cleveland—and let's be honest, the reality is grim—there are three children in the US facing lifelong disabilities, plus another five or six seniors who were permanently maimed by fireworks. So, by all means, go ahead and buy them for the kids; teach them that the only way to express joy is through explosions and gunfire.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#50 ·
It’s honestly tragic—just more victims falling prey to someone else's greed and some incredibly reckless lawmakers. I really hope they finally grow a brain and ban this thing, provided they back it up with actual oversight and heavy penalties for anyone caught breaking the rules.
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#51 ·
Casey Fowler said:If the US Federal Government is going to ban firearms outside of specific legal frameworks, then why aren't we seeing similar restrictions on firecrackers, flares, smoke bombs, or massive firework displays? It’s honestly baffling—we see far too many casualties from pyrotechnics, especially when children are involved. I simply don't understand the logic or the necessity behind this—during the holiday season, which should be a time for peace and joy, people are out there competing to see who can set off the loudest, most obnoxious blasts. To make matters worse, even minors are being allowed to play around with devices that are genuinely life-threatening.

They're banned 360 days out of the year anyway.

Megan Patel5 said:Kids take those tiny firecrackers and DIY their own dangerous combinations anyway. Plus, banning the big stuff won't achieve much—someone will always smuggle them in from overseas or find a guy selling them under the table at a flea market.

The real way to handle firework issues is through education—and honestly, a bit of an economic recession helps too. If you look back at the early 2000s, people were setting off more fireworks on the afternoon of December 31st than we see during New Year's Eve celebrations now.

Yeah, sure, you can fix it with education... starting from the moment money leaves your $1667 wallet.

coastalmason10 said:I’m definitely in favor of a ban. I can’t count how many people complain about their pets losing their minds when they hear those explosions—animals getting lost, bolting, or just panicking because their hearing is way more sensitive than ours.

I honestly don't understand how an adult can be so dim-witted and immature that, in the middle of a recession, they decide to blow $100-$67 on something that just explodes for five seconds. You’d be better off giving that money to someone who actually needs help putting food on the table 😵

There is nothing worse than walking down the street and having some idiot toss a firecracker behind you, laughing while everyone else jumps out of their skin. We are a sick society if we have money to waste on such garbage. I’d much rather spend that cash on a high-end steak at a nice restaurant than buy that trash. 🙄

He's not dim-witted, he's just helping boost the American economy during a crisis.

brightheron64 said:A ban on fireworks? Oh, come on now...

Allowing people to buy fireworks openly—provided they undergo strict safety inspections to ensure they aren't outright lethal—is easily the best way to handle this. Once you accept that humans have this innate, restless urge to play with fire and loud noises, you realize that having high safety standards and a low injury rate is much better than anything else, even if nothing in this world is ever truly idiot-proof...

I still get flashbacks to those "darker" days when you couldn't just walk into a local shop and buy something safe; instead, you had to deal with shady street dealers, or worse, every kid in the neighborhood had to turn into a makeshift chemist just to have some fun. We used to make these DIY devices using steel tubes filled with gunpowder or, more commonly, just crushed match heads, or little explosive caps made by tightening two metal washers together around a mixture. There were even homemade firecrackers using a specific blend of manganese, aluminum powder, and sulfur with a wick made from a spray nozzle... and perhaps the most terrifying option of all was the old carbide tin bomb.

Once commercial firecrackers became widely available, it actually helped phase out those carbide bombs, which were arguably the cheapest and most dangerous way to celebrate. The "procedure" was essentially a recipe for disaster: you’d take an old paint can, poke a hole in the bottom, toss in a chunk of calcium carbide, spit on it, snap the lid shut, stomp on it to seal it tight, and then hold a lit match to that little hole. The resulting reaction between the carbide and the moisture created acetylene gas, leading to a massive explosion. It took a certain level of reckless skill to pull it off, because if you miscalculated the amount of gas, the whole thing would basically act like a handheld grenade, sending shrapnel flying everywhere... and it wasn't uncommon for a flying lid to send someone nearby on a very sudden, very violent trip to the emergency room.

So, honestly, we should be grateful that we have regulated, professionally manufactured fireworks available today. The responsibility really falls on us to sit down with our kids and teach them about moderation and how to handle these things responsibly...

And you didn't carry that tin can into a crowded town square; you just set it off in front of your house.
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
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#52 ·
Casey Fowler said:According to reports from the children's hospital in Cleveland—and let's be honest, the reality is grim—there are three children in the US facing lifelong disabilities, plus another five or six seniors who were permanently maimed by fireworks. So, by all means, go ahead and buy them for the kids; teach them that the only way to express joy is through explosions and gunfire.

Honestly? Don't buy them for them at all, and don't teach them how to mess around with that stuff. Just strictly forbid it. Or, if you really want to be "that" parent, I guess you could just let them use it when they're hanging out with their friends behind your back...

Because then, I suppose, your conscience stays clean if something actually goes sideways...
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#53 ·
Alexander Thompson said:Honestly? Don't buy them for them at all, and don't teach them how to mess around with that stuff. Just strictly forbid it. Or, if you really want to be "that" parent, I guess you could just let them use it when they're hanging out with their friends behind your back...

Because then, I suppose, your conscience stays clean if something actually goes sideways...


Don't you dare vote for those Democrats,
because they couldn't care less about the citizens
or our basic safety.
They're personally lining their pockets off this mess.

Blood money.☕
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
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#54 ·
Man, seriously! Let's just get someone to ban firecrackers altogether—that’s honestly the only way we’re all gonna stay sane!
Kimberly Smith6 Kimberly Smith6 Member
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#55 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Don't you dare vote for those Democrats,
because they couldn't care less about the citizens
or our basic safety.
They're personally lining their pockets off this mess.

Blood money.☕

I mean, honestly, who else is there for the people to vote for besides the Republican Party? Or should I call them what they really are—a criminal enterprise that’s actually been legally branded as such by the courts?

And regarding that whole "don't teach the kids" argument—well, that is just absolute nonsense, if you ask me, because children are going to learn things regardless, and then we'll all be left dealing with the fallout. I actually saw this video recently where kids were holding a firecracker completely wrong while trying to light it. They were gripping it right at the tip, maybe an inch away from the fuse, which is exactly how you get hurt! If there's a manufacturing defect, that thing can blow up instantly instead of waiting five seconds. You have to hold it by the very bottom, because that part doesn't even contain any gunpowder; it's basically hollowed out, and that way, if it pops early, you might actually keep your fingers intact!
Why is that?
It's precisely because that lower section is empty; there's no powder there, which is why we always find those unexploded fragments lying around on the ground.

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Jessica Jones2 Jessica Jones2 Member
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#56 ·
Kimberly Smith6 said:I mean, honestly, who else is there for the people to vote for besides the Republican Party? Or should I call them what they really are—a criminal enterprise that’s actually been legally branded as such by the courts?

And regarding that whole "don't teach the kids" argument—well, that is just absolute nonsense, if you ask me, because children are going to learn things regardless, and then we'll all be left dealing with the fallout. I actually saw this video recently where kids were holding a firecracker completely wrong while trying to light it. They were gripping it right at the tip, maybe an inch away from the fuse, which is exactly how you get hurt! If there's a manufacturing defect, that thing can blow up instantly instead of waiting five seconds. You have to hold it by the very bottom, because that part doesn't even contain any gunpowder; it's basically hollowed out, and that way, if it pops early, you might actually keep your fingers intact!
Why is that?
It's precisely because that lower section is empty; there's no powder there, which is why we always find those unexploded fragments lying around on the ground.

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The first part of this post was clearly ripped straight out of Military Intelligence issue no. 9, published by the Department of Defense.

As for the second part, I’m guessing it comes from the Field Manual for Reserve Infantry NCO Training, put out by the Government Printing Office in Washington, D.C. 😁

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