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It’s actually great that you decided to drop those spoilers right here in this thread 🙏

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Gregory Parker 😢

It’s almost poetic, isn't it? Just when those of us over in District A and the folks in District B finally find some common ground and a way to actually work together, the forum mods step in to shut it down.

It honestly makes you wonder if they’re actively trying to keep us from getting along. ☕

Nice touch making him the Omega guy at the end.
Way better than any other theory I've seen lately.
Movie was pretty mid though.

Personally, I thought it was excellent. I enjoyed both the Cruise and Blunt performances, and I actually appreciated his attempt given the circumstances—it was entirely logical for him to try, considering everything we knew was coming. There’s a certain charm in how he gradually gets sucked into her orbit when they've really only known each other for a single day (which is exactly what she experienced with that Hendrix guy). It isn't as if the motive wasn't visible from the start, though the stakes certainly feel more visceral here since every day ends in a fatal encounter, but I genuinely liked the execution. My only gripe was that one glaring inconsistency toward the end, which cast a bit of a shadow over the whole experience, so I'm quite happy with any explanation that provides even a shred of coherence. There might still be minor hiccups here and there, but honestly, if anyone manages to craft a time-loop movie without a single flaw, someone should probably award them a Nobel Prize in Physics. ☕

And who knows, maybe Hollywood's standards have slipped so low lately that even a merely competent little flick feels like a masterpiece to us.

They totally blew it right at the finish line by messing with time loops there.
I watched it less than a month ago and I’m already losing most of the details.
The only characters that didn't grate on my nerves were the leads, because everyone else felt like a total caricature. Even Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt felt kind of one-dimensional. I mean, sure, he starts off as a jerk and ends up a hero, but that's about it. The movie's structure just doesn't leave room for actual character arcs, I guess.
The best part was that whole "living the same day over and over" vibe—they handled that nicely—but those fight scenes in New Orleans felt pretty hollow.
What really bugged me, though, was the ending. Even if you can explain the logic behind it, it feels like they're just pandering to the audience. Honestly, it would've been a better movie if they had just stayed dead.

Basically, Groundhog Day is better. ☕

Dennis Evans6 said:I dropped this link to that movie discussion thread earlier, but I didn't get much of a response. I guess nobody felt like sitting through a nearly hour-long deep dive into why the film was such a mess, even though ☕he lays out every single flaw perfectly right here.

Look, it’s pretty obvious that I can take any movie and basically rip it apart piece by piece just to make fun of how bad it is, and honestly, I don't even care—here are two examples:
I swear, if I have to watch one more over-analyzed, nitpicky video where someone spends ten minutes complaining about a single continuity error in a blockbuster, I’m actually going to lose my mind! It’s just constant, relentless whining disguised as "critique," and honestly, sometimes I feel like I'm the idiot for even clicking on these things when I know they're just going to drive me up the wall with their endless, pedantic counting.
I honestly don't even know where to start with this absolute disaster of a playlist, because watching this stuff feels like someone took my brain, put it in a blender, and then poured the whole mess right back into my skull! It’s just one chaotic, nonsensical train wreck after another, and frankly, I’m sitting here wondering how anyone can actually sit through this without losing their damn mind.

Look, I’m not saying the movie is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it was honestly such a blast to watch that I don't even care—and frankly, I’d love for you to enlighten me and point out which damn movie actually exists that doesn't have a single flaw.

Look, I’m a long way from being the kind of guy who thinks nothing should ever be criticized, but honestly, the only reason I speak up is because I want us to actually get quality products instead of being fed total garbage! But lately, it feels like everyone is just tearing apart everything that happens—meanwhile, companies like Disney just pump out four or five sequels in a row without anyone saying a damn word. 🤦Honestly, it’s just so easy to be a hater, isn't it? Instead of actually taking ninety minutes to decompress and clear your head, everyone just sits around waiting for any little excuse to start spitting venom. I’m not even taking this personally when I say it, it’s just how people work—everyone wants to tear things down because it’s the path of least resistance, where you're never allowed to make a mistake, but the second you dare to say something is actually decent, suddenly you're the one who can't do anything right.

In Edge of Tomorrow, right at the start when they show that map, I guess they have Ljubljana listed as the capital of the US.

Peter Thompson4 said:Look, it’s pretty obvious that I can take any movie and basically rip it apart piece by piece just to make fun of how bad it is, and honestly, I don't even care—here are two examples:
I swear, if I have to watch one more over-analyzed, nitpicky video where someone spends ten minutes complaining about a single continuity error in a blockbuster, I’m actually going to lose my mind! It’s just constant, relentless whining disguised as "critique," and honestly, sometimes I feel like I'm the idiot for even clicking on these things when I know they're just going to drive me up the wall with their endless, pedantic counting.
I honestly don't even know where to start with this absolute disaster of a playlist, because watching this stuff feels like someone took my brain, put it in a blender, and then poured the whole mess right back into my skull! It’s just one chaotic, nonsensical train wreck after another, and frankly, I’m sitting here wondering how anyone can actually sit through this without losing their damn mind.

Look, I’m not saying the movie is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it was honestly such a blast to watch that I don't even care—and frankly, I’d love for you to enlighten me and point out which damn movie actually exists that doesn't have a single flaw.

Look, I’m a long way from being the kind of guy who thinks nothing should ever be criticized, but honestly, the only reason I speak up is because I want us to actually get quality products instead of being fed total garbage! But lately, it feels like everyone is just tearing apart everything that happens—meanwhile, companies like Disney just pump out four or five sequels in a row without anyone saying a damn word. 🤦Honestly, it’s just so easy to be a hater, isn't it? Instead of actually taking ninety minutes to decompress and clear your head, everyone just sits around waiting for any little excuse to start spitting venom. I’m not even taking this personally when I say it, it’s just how people work—everyone wants to tear things down because it’s the path of least resistance, where you're never allowed to make a mistake, but the second you dare to say something is actually decent, suddenly you're the one who can't do anything right.

Look, no movie is perfect, but there are certain films where you can just overlook a few minor hiccups and still enjoy the ride. The problem here isn't some small technicality; it’s that *Edge of Tomorrow* is practically riddled with plot holes, yet people are out here hyping it up like it’s the next *Interstellar*. Time travel is always a minefield to write, but if the movie's only failure was the concept itself, I wouldn't even be bothering to chime in. I'm not sure if you actually sat through the full review or just skimmed the premise before jumping in to comment, but the guy wasn't hunting for nitpicky continuity errors—he was pointing out fundamental flaws in the logic of the story. Just watch it. The end. Maybe you'll finally get a better handle on what exactly is getting under my skin.
I’ve never been much for those blockbuster movies that basically demand you check your brain at the door just to enjoy the ride; honestly, that kind of mindless spectacle is just not my cup of tea. ☕

So, what exactly is it about him that gets under your skin? Just tell me plainly, so I don't have to spend half an hour listening to that idiot's nasally, grating voice again. ☕

brightpilot6 said:Gregory Parker 😢

It’s almost poetic, isn't it? Just when those of us over in District A and the folks in District B finally find some common ground and a way to actually work together, the forum mods step in to shut it down.

It honestly makes you wonder if they’re actively trying to keep us from getting along. ☕

The higher-ups have sounded the alarm; apparently, the whole engagement strategy for this site relies on keeping us divided, much like how the Lakers and Celtics rivalry keeps sports media in business.

I guess the only thing Northside and Downtown can agree on is getting banned. 🐔

On another note, I finally sat down to watch "Interstellar." Honestly, I was bracing myself for a disaster, but it was actually pretty decent. I really appreciated all the heavy sci-fi jargon—it’s a refreshing change from the usual mindless space junk you see in mainstream movies. That said, the visuals could have been more imaginative, and the acting was just okay. Anne Hathaway felt totally out of place, and McConaughey is starting to lean a little too hard into his own tropes.

Haha, his voice is a bit grating, I'll give you that, but I look past it because I’ve noticed our tastes are pretty much aligned. I checked out his top movies from last year, and he’s basically picking the same flicks as everyone else. Plus, there are a few things I probably would have skipped entirely if he hadn't reviewed them. For instance, I’m waiting for Birdman and Whiplash to drop—though, honestly, I’d probably end up watching Birdman even without his stamp of approval. Whatever.

What exactly is bothering me? Take this specific point he made: when they get that serum from the General, instead of Tom using it to actually kick some ass, he gets some weird vision and just resets the day. Meanwhile, we’re just wandering around the city aimlessly while everything falls apart. At that point, Tom loses his ability to reset because he gets a blood transfusion—which is equally nonsensical, but hey, that's just how movie logic works, I guess—and suddenly they have to head to Paris without being able to loop the day a thousand times to get it right. But that trip to Paris... that’s what really threw me off. It makes zero sense that these aliens could conquer all of Europe except for the UK and somehow not need any land defenses. Like, they're smart enough to know people will only invade through Normandy, right? Come on. Yet, they have these random, pathetic outposts buried near places like Helix or some abandoned houses? And once the Cruise spacecraft crashes in Paris, the aliens don't even attack; they just sit there waiting for Cruise to figure out his next move.
There’s plenty more where that came from, but I can't be bothered... unless you're dying to hear it?

brightpilot6 said:So, what exactly is it about him that gets under your skin? Just tell me plainly, so I don't have to spend half an hour listening to that idiot's nasally, grating voice again. ☕

To be honest, what really bugs me is that she didn't just finish him off and bring him back once she drove that thing into his leg. By playing it that way, they basically invited the exact disaster that actually happened—the risk of losing him for good before Omega was even taken out. I guess they just rolled the dice and lost.

He knew Omega was in Paris. He could have ended him right then and there, which would've let them head over there with the option to respawn. I guess he just didn't. Maybe.

I see Dennis Evans6 weighed in too. 🤣

Also, when they head over there, Cage (Cruise) tells J—was it J?—to leave Alfie alone. He argues that if their blood gets into them, they might be able to loop that day forever. I guess. Maybe. 😕 Since those five were up against the Omega core itself—and actually managed to pull off a win in the end—I guess it changes the math a bit. Maybe. 🙄 I guess they were just trying to find a way to hit the reset button on the day. Maybe. 🤷

Dennis Evans6 said:Haha, his voice is a bit grating, I'll give you that, but I look past it because I’ve noticed our tastes are pretty much aligned. I checked out his top movies from last year, and he’s basically picking the same flicks as everyone else. Plus, there are a few things I probably would have skipped entirely if he hadn't reviewed them. For instance, I’m waiting for Birdman and Whiplash to drop—though, honestly, I’d probably end up watching Birdman even without his stamp of approval. Whatever.

What exactly is bothering me? Take this specific point he made: when they get that serum from the General, instead of Tom using it to actually kick some ass, he gets some weird vision and just resets the day. Meanwhile, we’re just wandering around the city aimlessly while everything falls apart. At that point, Tom loses his ability to reset because he gets a blood transfusion—which is equally nonsensical, but hey, that's just how movie logic works, I guess—and suddenly they have to head to Paris without being able to loop the day a thousand times to get it right. But that trip to Paris... that’s what really threw me off. It makes zero sense that these aliens could conquer all of Europe except for the UK and somehow not need any land defenses. Like, they're smart enough to know people will only invade through Normandy, right? Come on. Yet, they have these random, pathetic outposts buried near places like Helix or some abandoned houses? And once the Cruise spacecraft crashes in Paris, the aliens don't even attack; they just sit there waiting for Cruise to figure out his next move.
There’s plenty more where that came from, but I can't be bothered... unless you're dying to hear it?

The loss of power is just for the sake of tension, like they only get one shot at this. It’s a bit dumb, but that’s how it is.

The aliens don't need a defense because Omega has a reset point on the day Cruise woke up in the helicopter 😉
If they attacked anywhere else, it would just be a reset, and then they'd be waiting for them at that exact location.

urbanhawk17 said:To be honest, what really bugs me is that she didn't just finish him off and bring him back once she drove that thing into his leg. By playing it that way, they basically invited the exact disaster that actually happened—the risk of losing him for good before Omega was even taken out. I guess they just rolled the dice and lost.

He knew Omega was in Paris. He could have ended him right then and there, which would've let them head over there with the option to respawn. I guess he just didn't. Maybe.

I see Dennis Evans6 weighed in too. 🤣

Also, when they head over there, Cage (Cruise) tells J—was it J?—to leave Alfie alone. He argues that if their blood gets into them, they might be able to loop that day forever. I guess. Maybe. 😕 Since those five were up against the Omega core itself—and actually managed to pull off a win in the end—I guess it changes the math a bit. Maybe. 🙄 I guess they were just trying to find a way to hit the reset button on the day. Maybe. 🤷

And then Omega would know they're coming, so there'd be no point in resetting at that moment.

That movie was an absolute slog; honestly, the highlight was watching her take him out just two minutes in whenever he messed up... 🙂 though I suppose I shouldn't have expected much more, since as Christopher Nolan often points out, these whole time-travel concepts are notoriously difficult to translate to the screen, let alone make actually make sense. They really should have just focused on crafting a spectacular showdown during the landing sequence ☕

It’s honestly like watching a game coached by a legendary strategist like Bill Belichick; if you aren't deeply familiar with how a true visionary operates, you're going to be completely lost. For those of us who actually understand the nuances of high-level tactical planning, seeing this squad play is like watching an archetype of pure defensive grit—it's all about grinding out that crucial away win through sheer discipline...

Dennis Evans6 said:Haha, his voice is a bit grating, I'll give you that, but I look past it because I’ve noticed our tastes are pretty much aligned. I checked out his top movies from last year, and he’s basically picking the same flicks as everyone else. Plus, there are a few things I probably would have skipped entirely if he hadn't reviewed them. For instance, I’m waiting for Birdman and Whiplash to drop—though, honestly, I’d probably end up watching Birdman even without his stamp of approval. Whatever.

What exactly is bothering me? Take this specific point he made: when they get that serum from the General, instead of Tom using it to actually kick some ass, he gets some weird vision and just resets the day. Meanwhile, we’re just wandering around the city aimlessly while everything falls apart. At that point, Tom loses his ability to reset because he gets a blood transfusion—which is equally nonsensical, but hey, that's just how movie logic works, I guess—and suddenly they have to head to Paris without being able to loop the day a thousand times to get it right. But that trip to Paris... that’s what really threw me off. It makes zero sense that these aliens could conquer all of Europe except for the UK and somehow not need any land defenses. Like, they're smart enough to know people will only invade through Normandy, right? Come on. Yet, they have these random, pathetic outposts buried near places like Helix or some abandoned houses? And once the Cruise spacecraft crashes in Paris, the aliens don't even attack; they just sit there waiting for Cruise to figure out his next move.
There’s plenty more where that came from, but I can't be bothered... unless you're dying to hear it?

urbanhawk17 said:To be honest, what really bugs me is that she didn't just finish him off and bring him back once she drove that thing into his leg. By playing it that way, they basically invited the exact disaster that actually happened—the risk of losing him for good before Omega was even taken out. I guess they just rolled the dice and lost.

He knew Omega was in Paris. He could have ended him right then and there, which would've let them head over there with the option to respawn. I guess he just didn't. Maybe.

I see Dennis Evans6 weighed in too. 🤣

Also, when they head over there, Cage (Cruise) tells J—was it J?—to leave Alfie alone. He argues that if their blood gets into them, they might be able to loop that day forever. I guess. Maybe. 😕 Since those five were up against the Omega core itself—and actually managed to pull off a win in the end—I guess it changes the math a bit. Maybe. 🙄 I guess they were just trying to find a way to hit the reset button on the day. Maybe. 🤷

That move might seem like a smart play if you’re looking at it through the eyes of someone who already knows how a desperate escape attempt ends. But then again, you have to consider that these characters are just trying to survive—to stay alive and sane for one more day. Suppose he had just pulled the bullet out of her leg right there in front of the General? He gets his vision, the wound is treated, and they both walk away unscathed. Why on earth would he commit suicide then, or why would she take him out? At that specific moment, such an outcome wouldn't make any sense, whether you're following the internal logic of their lives or the narrative rules of a Hollywood script.

Dennis Evans6 said:Haha, his voice is a bit grating, I'll give you that, but I look past it because I’ve noticed our tastes are pretty much aligned. I checked out his top movies from last year, and he’s basically picking the same flicks as everyone else. Plus, there are a few things I probably would have skipped entirely if he hadn't reviewed them. For instance, I’m waiting for Birdman and Whiplash to drop—though, honestly, I’d probably end up watching Birdman even without his stamp of approval. Whatever.

What exactly is bothering me? Take this specific point he made: when they get that serum from the General, instead of Tom using it to actually kick some ass, he gets some weird vision and just resets the day. Meanwhile, we’re just wandering around the city aimlessly while everything falls apart. At that point, Tom loses his ability to reset because he gets a blood transfusion—which is equally nonsensical, but hey, that's just how movie logic works, I guess—and suddenly they have to head to Paris without being able to loop the day a thousand times to get it right. But that trip to Paris... that’s what really threw me off. It makes zero sense that these aliens could conquer all of Europe except for the UK and somehow not need any land defenses. Like, they're smart enough to know people will only invade through Normandy, right? Come on. Yet, they have these random, pathetic outposts buried near places like Helix or some abandoned houses? And once the Cruise spacecraft crashes in Paris, the aliens don't even attack; they just sit there waiting for Cruise to figure out his next move.
There’s plenty more where that came from, but I can't be bothered... unless you're dying to hear it?

I honestly don't see how you can say that lacks logic. If you look at that first attempt, it actually captures the entire internal logic of the film. The aliens didn't just swoop in and conquer three-quarters of the world in one single, decisive strike; instead, they operated through a process of trial and error. Every time an Alpha falls, it serves as a clear indicator that their current strategy was flawed or headed down the wrong path, prompting them to reset from a secure position and try again, this time armed with the knowledge needed to correct those specific mistakes.

One can't deny that an adversary equipped with such heavy weaponry would undoubtedly inflict significant damage, yet every single one of those attempts could be neutralized following a system reset. This is precisely why Omega remains buried deep within the earth, shielded by the presence of Alpha above it; if someone were to attempt an aerial strike—even with a nuclear payload—they would have to annihilate Alpha before they ever reached Omega, triggering an immediate reset. And wouldn't we then be operating with the distinct advantage of knowing exactly where that strike is coming from, allowing us to intercept it at the very first moment?

The internal logic of the film dictates that Omega needs to take out Alpha immediately, without waiting for Alpha to strike first, and ideally on that very first attempt. After all, how can Omega possibly anticipate what hasn't happened yet, especially when nothing has truly occurred in any previous loop?

Dennis Evans6 said:Haha, his voice is a bit grating, I'll give you that, but I look past it because I’ve noticed our tastes are pretty much aligned. I checked out his top movies from last year, and he’s basically picking the same flicks as everyone else. Plus, there are a few things I probably would have skipped entirely if he hadn't reviewed them. For instance, I’m waiting for Birdman and Whiplash to drop—though, honestly, I’d probably end up watching Birdman even without his stamp of approval. Whatever.

What exactly is bothering me? Take this specific point he made: when they get that serum from the General, instead of Tom using it to actually kick some ass, he gets some weird vision and just resets the day. Meanwhile, we’re just wandering around the city aimlessly while everything falls apart. At that point, Tom loses his ability to reset because he gets a blood transfusion—which is equally nonsensical, but hey, that's just how movie logic works, I guess—and suddenly they have to head to Paris without being able to loop the day a thousand times to get it right. But that trip to Paris... that’s what really threw me off. It makes zero sense that these aliens could conquer all of Europe except for the UK and somehow not need any land defenses. Like, they're smart enough to know people will only invade through Normandy, right? Come on. Yet, they have these random, pathetic outposts buried near places like Helix or some abandoned houses? And once the Cruise spacecraft crashes in Paris, the aliens don't even attack; they just sit there waiting for Cruise to figure out his next move.
There’s plenty more where that came from, but I can't be bothered... unless you're dying to hear it?

The Mimics are buried near the house because those two have been to that location a hundred times already, and Omega knows exactly how to intercept them there. But they also have Mimics buried in New York, quite a few of them actually. And if you recall when the lead and the woman were in that house, they were right near the Mimics and weren't attacked immediately, so the situation in New York doesn't actually deviate from the rules established in the film.

I’ll say it again: as Morgan Martinez5 pointed out, the strength of the aliens doesn't lie in their sheer numbers or some specific combat prowess—we see that even relatively untrained people can kill them—but rather in the blessing of being able to always restart from a saved point.

Dennis Evans6 said:Haha, his voice is a bit grating, I'll give you that, but I look past it because I’ve noticed our tastes are pretty much aligned. I checked out his top movies from last year, and he’s basically picking the same flicks as everyone else. Plus, there are a few things I probably would have skipped entirely if he hadn't reviewed them. For instance, I’m waiting for Birdman and Whiplash to drop—though, honestly, I’d probably end up watching Birdman even without his stamp of approval. Whatever.

What exactly is bothering me? Take this specific point he made: when they get that serum from the General, instead of Tom using it to actually kick some ass, he gets some weird vision and just resets the day. Meanwhile, we’re just wandering around the city aimlessly while everything falls apart. At that point, Tom loses his ability to reset because he gets a blood transfusion—which is equally nonsensical, but hey, that's just how movie logic works, I guess—and suddenly they have to head to Paris without being able to loop the day a thousand times to get it right. But that trip to Paris... that’s what really threw me off. It makes zero sense that these aliens could conquer all of Europe except for the UK and somehow not need any land defenses. Like, they're smart enough to know people will only invade through Normandy, right? Come on. Yet, they have these random, pathetic outposts buried near places like Helix or some abandoned houses? And once the Cruise spacecraft crashes in Paris, the aliens don't even attack; they just sit there waiting for Cruise to figure out his next move.
There’s plenty more where that came from, but I can't be bothered... unless you're dying to hear it?

Well, please do share if you have anything else, because you've given us very little ☕

urbanhawk17 said:To be honest, what really bugs me is that she didn't just finish him off and bring him back once she drove that thing into his leg. By playing it that way, they basically invited the exact disaster that actually happened—the risk of losing him for good before Omega was even taken out. I guess they just rolled the dice and lost.

He knew Omega was in Paris. He could have ended him right then and there, which would've let them head over there with the option to respawn. I guess he just didn't. Maybe.

I see Dennis Evans6 weighed in too. 🤣

Also, when they head over there, Cage (Cruise) tells J—was it J?—to leave Alfie alone. He argues that if their blood gets into them, they might be able to loop that day forever. I guess. Maybe. 😕 Since those five were up against the Omega core itself—and actually managed to pull off a win in the end—I guess it changes the math a bit. Maybe. 🙄 I guess they were just trying to find a way to hit the reset button on the day. Maybe. 🤷

That isn't accurate; he doesn't tell them not to kill the Alpha because of blood contamination, but precisely because doing so would allow Omega to reset the day, effectively letting it know they are coming.

Evidence:

''So, this Omega controls time?''
''Let's just smash him and send him back to wherever he came from. Then we go home.''
''Maybe the "Alpha" protects him.''
''Just kill him. Got it?''
''No! You heard what Cage said: Don't kill the Alpha.''
''If we kill the Alpha, Omega will reset this entire day. We won't even remember having this conversation. He'll know we're coming.''
''What if one of those "Alphas" tries to kill me?''
''Sacrifice yourself then.''

The film possesses a completely rounded and consistent internal logic. I don't agree with the idea that you need to turn your brain off for this movie; in fact, you really have to engage it so you can shift from our linear perception of time into the film's logic, observing both the action and the characters' choices through that lens.

So, what do you all do for a living? 🤣

ZZ 👍

Honestly, I don't even see why we need to sit here and overanalyze this thing because the movie is actually good if you just shut up and enjoy the ride! Sure, there’s logic there, but it’s not like every single tiny detail was polished to perfection—it feels a bit unrefined in spots, but trying to nitpick it is like trying to write a deep philosophical thesis on Dragon Ball Z, which is just a total waste of time.
Michelle Palmer6 mentioned a few things that technically need logical consistency, and most of them are actually covered (like how Noah Ross7 laid it out so well).

But seriously, it’s way too easy to just be miserable and refuse to have fun. You have to learn how to appreciate a well-made film when you see one, and this qualifies. It's a solid movie, regardless of whether you call it a thriller or whatever else. It's meant for relaxing, so if you went into this expecting some intense mental gymnastics that would melt your brain, then you picked the wrong movie and that is entirely on you.

If you actually want to use your brain, go watch: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Memento, A Clockwork Orange, The Prestige, or Shutter Island...

I don't bother analyzing anything while I'm watching a movie; I only truly start thinking once I've finished watching The Godfather.

for Amanda Evans2 😍

I guess it actually is his birthday today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vevO...e_gdata_player