Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

As Robin Fox2 says, I suppose they'll eventually find some publication willing to host their writing. 🤷 Everyone is just waiting around, seemingly lost without various figures like "Dežulović" to guide them. 🤣

Matthew Anderson4 said:Did you catch that one about Ivanišević? Total must-read. I don't know any American columnist who’d even attempt a conceptual approach like that, let alone pull it off almost perfectly.

Man, I have no idea how I missed this. We'll dive into the details later, when things settle down...

Keith Miller30 said:As Robin Fox2 says, I suppose they'll eventually find some publication willing to host their writing. 🤷 Everyone is just waiting around, seemingly lost without various figures like "Dežulović" to guide them. 🤣

Find me an American sports journalist who wrote something close to this using just these few links from this site, and I'll be all ears.

No, really, the only thing that truly matters here is Dežulović. Is there anything more tiresome than the endless drone of those self-righteous communists?And, by extension, everything they touch seems to turn to ash, doesn't it? It’s as if their very presence guarantees that nothing will work quite right.

Good grief.

Goodness, it isn't as if Dežulović is the first writer in history to possess a decent prose style while simultaneously being a complete scoundrel... He certainly isn't the last.

brightpilot6 said:Find me an American sports journalist who wrote something close to this using just these few links from this site, and I'll be all ears.

No, really, the only thing that truly matters here is Dežulović. Is there anything more tiresome than the endless drone of those self-righteous communists?And, by extension, everything they touch seems to turn to ash, doesn't it? It’s as if their very presence guarantees that nothing will work quite right.

Good grief.

Did I ever actually claim that he was a communist or suggest that everything he does is inherently flawed? Take Tomić, for instance; when I speak about him as an individual, I truly mean the absolute worst, so I have no issue pointing out that he occasionally writes things that are frankly bottom-tier. That being said, I did go so far as to purchase his books.

Anyway, I haven't really sat down to read through all that stuff about ZZ; I tend to focus my attention more on the political side of things.

I hope Keith Miller30 isn't taking issue with Dežulović just because he isn't considered "statesmanlike" enough. Personally, I can't say I always agree with his takes, but he really is a high-quality and occasionally hilarious columnist... I also find reading Raspudić interesting, even if it's a bit tough to take someone seriously who used to be a fashion advisor for a celebrity cat

In the Jutarnji list, you'll occasionally see some great pieces from Pofuk and Kustić, but for me, Ratko Bošković is still the standout among them all

Matthew Anderson4 said:Did you catch that one about Ivanišević? Total must-read. I don't know any American columnist who’d even attempt a conceptual approach like that, let alone pull it off almost perfectly.

Just finished reading it for the first time. 🙏 🙏 🙏

After all these years since everything went down, that article just hit me right in the gut. This stuff is top-tier, goddammit. 🙏🙏🙏

Noah Carter24 said:👋

But you totally
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You're being super selective with what you read, which is pretty unusual! 🥱

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It seems like you're still missing the point. It’s not the same thing as demanding a journalist churn out five stories a day while telling them they can't mention Bandić.

Anyway, enjoy your opinion, it's yours after all...

James Anderson5 said:I hope Keith Miller30 isn't taking issue with Dežulović just because he isn't considered "statesmanlike" enough. Personally, I can't say I always agree with his takes, but he really is a high-quality and occasionally hilarious columnist... I also find reading Raspudić interesting, even if it's a bit tough to take someone seriously who used to be a fashion advisor for a celebrity cat

In the Jutarnji list, you'll occasionally see some great pieces from Pofuk and Kustić, but for me, Ratko Bošković is still the standout among them all

Why would it be difficult to take someone seriously who was an advisor to that fashion guy? That was actually discussed on NU2 when Raspudić mentioned that people were criticizing him for helping the fellow write his book. In my view, that is simply a credit to Raspudić—that he didn't let prejudice get in the way and helped a man who is likely 100% ideologically different from him. Raspudić is by far the smartest columnist out there.

It really has nothing to do with whether someone is "state-building" enough. Just look at the hosts; on one hand, you have Bujanac, and on the other, you have Stankovic. Strictly speaking, Bujanac should be closer to me ideologically, so it makes no sense for me to say he's anything but a nuisance compared to Stankovic. Keep in mind that I don't worship Stankovic either, but when you compare them, you have this little guy who runs his show so unprofessionally it’s almost abnormal, whereas on the other side, you have Stankovic, who is well-trained, eloquent, knows how to manipulate quite well, and knows how to draw parallels that make no sense just to prove a point—and I actually respect that tremendously.

I actually find Bujanac somewhat charming in a way; seeing him, that small, stout man with his Ostoja Rankovic, constantly attributing quotes to guests... when I hear those absurd claims—like yesterday, when he claimed he knows from reliable sources that Milanović said only the poor and uneducated went to war. It is so comical that you almost have to find it endearing, even considering he doesn't realize the GOP will probably abandon him after the elections because someone like him would only end up hurting the Pope, or rather, the political party itself.

Alright, we have drifted toward talking about hosts now, but the core point remains. You can see that it doesn't matter to me who is considered sufficiently patriotic or "state-building." ☕

Larry Fox5 said:Just finished reading it for the first time. 🙏 🙏 🙏

After all these years since everything went down, that article just hit me right in the gut. This stuff is top-tier, goddammit. 🙏🙏🙏

Read it again just now—God knows how many times—and I still got chills at the end. And honestly? I’m not even a fan of Goran.

Panenka and Bocrates are just as good in my book

though my absolute favorite story is still this

William Gomez5 said:Panenka and Bocrates are just as good in my book

though my absolute favorite story is still this

"Lying on a table in the hall, I asked the gathered surgeons if they knew what Milorad Bibić Mosor told the doctors before surgery. ‘Friends, I’ll be open,’ "

the top 🤣

James Anderson5 said:"Lying on a table in the hall, I asked the gathered surgeons if they knew what Milorad Bibić Mosor told the doctors before surgery. ‘Friends, I’ll be open,’ "

the top 🤣

Dozens of famous faces, random strangers, dear friends, and distant acquaintances have all gone out of their way to praise how I handle fighting this nasty disease—basically using pure, unadulterated sarcasm and humor to stay afloat. At the same time, they’re all trying to play the "reality check" card, warning me that cancer isn't exactly something you can just joke your way out of. It's all coming from a good place, of course. Everyone seems to have some kind of secondhand experience or a sob story to share. You know how it goes: everyone has an aunt whose mother-in-law has a niece whose best friend knows some guy from Timisoara who supposedly cured his grandmother's tumor just by calling her on the phone.

When I look back at those old daily intelligence reports today, they were honestly just filled with pure, unadulterated nonsense—nothing but stupid little anecdotes and jokes. You’d see stuff like medical boards debating whether to follow the American or Cuban healthcare models—basically choosing between total state control or complete castration. Then there was all that heavy-handed propaganda, constant slogans like "Jajce must fall!" or "Better brandy than a pact!" Just ridiculous stuff.

🤣🤣

Keith Miller30 said:Why would it be difficult to take someone seriously who was an advisor to that fashion guy? That was actually discussed on NU2 when Raspudić mentioned that people were criticizing him for helping the fellow write his book. In my view, that is simply a credit to Raspudić—that he didn't let prejudice get in the way and helped a man who is likely 100% ideologically different from him. Raspudić is by far the smartest columnist out there.

It really has nothing to do with whether someone is "state-building" enough. Just look at the hosts; on one hand, you have Bujanac, and on the other, you have Stankovic. Strictly speaking, Bujanac should be closer to me ideologically, so it makes no sense for me to say he's anything but a nuisance compared to Stankovic. Keep in mind that I don't worship Stankovic either, but when you compare them, you have this little guy who runs his show so unprofessionally it’s almost abnormal, whereas on the other side, you have Stankovic, who is well-trained, eloquent, knows how to manipulate quite well, and knows how to draw parallels that make no sense just to prove a point—and I actually respect that tremendously.

I actually find Bujanac somewhat charming in a way; seeing him, that small, stout man with his Ostoja Rankovic, constantly attributing quotes to guests... when I hear those absurd claims—like yesterday, when he claimed he knows from reliable sources that Milanović said only the poor and uneducated went to war. It is so comical that you almost have to find it endearing, even considering he doesn't realize the GOP will probably abandon him after the elections because someone like him would only end up hurting the Pope, or rather, the political party itself.

Alright, we have drifted toward talking about hosts now, but the core point remains. You can see that it doesn't matter to me who is considered sufficiently patriotic or "state-building." ☕

Well, he was only advising that fashionista because he hadn't really made a name for himself yet. The right wing just needed some sort of intellectual commentator to fill the void, so they basically manufactured him since guys like Dujmović or Bujanac are such total eccentrics...

Maybe I’m just too focused on economics, so I tend to follow those social and economic commentators more. Compared to them, Raspudić doesn't carry much weight. I'm talking about people like Bošković, Šonja, or a couple of others like Šajatović. Even within the conservative spectrum, there are senior figures who are five times more thoughtful than he is...

The whole point of mentioning that fashion advisor in Raspudić's bio is just to show he lacks a real track record. He’s largely a media creation by the Republican Party, much like how Aleksandra Kolaric or Davor Bernardić were positioned in politics outside of the Democrats...

Well, look, Raspudić is an academic and an intellectual, not some economic specialist. But hey, he’s my number one choice, and if you aren't feeling him, that's perfectly fine by me.

Now, Aleksandra Kolaric is quite a handful—she’s exactly what you might call a "tough old bird." I find myself disagreeing with her more often than not, yet there's something about people like her that I truly admire. She tends to tear down everything I hold dear, but she does it with such style that it doesn't actually get under my skin; in fact, she's the kind of person you'd still want to grab a coffee with. Or perhaps even more than that, though I won't dwell on it. I simply don't take it personally. 🙂

So, I wouldn't necessarily label them as media fabrications; this one could have easily sold us a dream just to protect her seat, but she didn't. As for Bernardica, I think we can find some common ground there.

What kind of absolute nonsense is this regarding Goran? 🙏🙏

I was watching that fifth set recently, and I was sweating bullets because I already knew exactly how it was going to play out. 🤣

One of the greatest stories of sports and humanity, without a doubt. This piece really hits home and captures exactly what we were all feeling. Thanks for that. That was it.

Keith Miller30 said:Well, look, Raspudić is an academic and an intellectual, not some economic specialist. But hey, he’s my number one choice, and if you aren't feeling him, that's perfectly fine by me.

Now, Aleksandra Kolaric is quite a handful—she’s exactly what you might call a "tough old bird." I find myself disagreeing with her more often than not, yet there's something about people like her that I truly admire. She tends to tear down everything I hold dear, but she does it with such style that it doesn't actually get under my skin; in fact, she's the kind of person you'd still want to grab a coffee with. Or perhaps even more than that, though I won't dwell on it. I simply don't take it personally. 🙂

So, I wouldn't necessarily label them as media fabrications; this one could have easily sold us a dream just to protect her seat, but she didn't. As for Bernardica, I think we can find some common ground there.

Raspudić isn't a dumb guy, but he is incredibly dull and, honestly, pretty uninspired. He writes pieces for equally uninspired people who need someone else to define their identity for them. That whole mantra about dividing Americans into three-dimensional subgroups is probably some of the most nonsensical stuff I've ever read in any language—and I've been on this forum since 2003, so I've seen just about everything there is to see. He just doesn't have that ability to embrace life's highs and lows the way Dežulović does. If Dežulović were here in our Football section, he would be the standout character, while they'd probably be making fun of Raspudić just like they do Nevenka and those other bores.

The Cuban model approach—castration... I'm writing this down🤣🤣🤣

If Bore were here, he’d definitely be the top player in this room. I agree completely.

Keith Miller30 said:Well, honestly, I find it strange that anyone could think Dežulović is okay. At least we can agree on Raspudić, right? 🙂

Of course, when I say "strange," I don't mean it in a malicious or negative way. ☕

But then again, in what context should it be taken?

brightpilot6 said:Find me an American sports journalist who wrote something close to this using just these few links from this site, and I'll be all ears.

No, really, the only thing that truly matters here is Dežulović. Is there anything more tiresome than the endless drone of those self-righteous communists?And, by extension, everything they touch seems to turn to ash, doesn't it? It’s as if their very presence guarantees that nothing will work quite right.

Good grief.

Here’s another one.