Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Look, I’m certainly no fan of the Democratic Party, but... 🎉

Anyone out there voting for the absolute worst option—or even just choosing the lesser of two evils—is essentially just voting for evil.
Between the various fringe parties, the radicals, and those "for the family" types, there's a little bit of chaos for everyone to go around.

It is honestly embarrassing to see that among the 18-to-30 demographic, the Democrats are sitting at 29% while the Republicans are at 21%. It turns out nearly half of our young people are actually casting votes for total disaster. I mean, sure, we could point back to 2003, or the scandals of 2007, or even how things went down in 2011, but after a term like this one? I was reading some poll recently—maybe it was from CNN, so take it with a grain of salt—but it looked like over 50% were leaning that way.

I get it, the older generation is obsessed with the old ways; they probably lived through enough history to feel entitled to their views, but as for the kids? Honestly, we should just send them all to boarding school in Switzerland to get some actual discipline and bring them back when they turn 18.

It’s no surprise the older generation keeps pulling the kids toward the Republican Party.

Noah Roberts46 said:It’s no surprise the older generation keeps pulling the kids toward the Republican Party.

You clearly didn't get it. They actually managed to trick you into taking the "lesser of two evils" route, too. 😉).

Nobody ever managed to talk me into anything. ☕

Anthony Jackson2 said:Election season is always fun—at least we get a good laugh before the crying starts. 😁

Setting aside any actual chance of a third party breaking through here—when you look at the choice between the Republicans and the Democrats, specifically between Trump and Biden—it’s honestly baffling how anyone could make a logical, well-reasoned case for Trump. Just looking at them side-by-side, what does he actually bring to the table that Biden doesn't?

Patriotism in my heart🤣

The current administration has managed to oversee the most disastrous term of any U.S. president in recent memory. They’ve successfully steered this nation toward the same level of economic ruin seen in places like Argentina or Venezuela, which is quite an achievement if you think about it... If Karamarko were still leading the GOP, they'd probably be polling under 10% right now, making him look like a complete joke by comparison.

In short, things are looking bright, but we're all doomed.

Anthony Jackson2 said:Read today that Tom Davis refused to take part in any of the pre-election debates 🤣 The big shot leader of all those losers—our version of Trump—was so terrified of that communist's son, Zak, that he actually fled his own district's ballot 🤣

I don't get why people are even trying to compare Karamarka to Orbán. It's just not happening. I mean, Orbán actually has real results to show for his work, whereas that guy? Nothing. And honestly, looking at the level of support Orbán commands... man, Zoki and that little spy would probably kill for even half of that.😁

ironpanther5 said:Look, I’m certainly no fan of the Democratic Party, but... 🎉

Anyone out there voting for the absolute worst option—or even just choosing the lesser of two evils—is essentially just voting for evil.
Between the various fringe parties, the radicals, and those "for the family" types, there's a little bit of chaos for everyone to go around.

It is honestly embarrassing to see that among the 18-to-30 demographic, the Democrats are sitting at 29% while the Republicans are at 21%. It turns out nearly half of our young people are actually casting votes for total disaster. I mean, sure, we could point back to 2003, or the scandals of 2007, or even how things went down in 2011, but after a term like this one? I was reading some poll recently—maybe it was from CNN, so take it with a grain of salt—but it looked like over 50% were leaning that way.

I get it, the older generation is obsessed with the old ways; they probably lived through enough history to feel entitled to their views, but as for the kids? Honestly, we should just send them all to boarding school in Switzerland to get some actual discipline and bring them back when they turn 18.

Wait, isn't it the other way around? Or did I get my wires crossed?

I can't find the specific link to that Fox News poll right now, but I'm pretty sure that age group leans Republican, while retirees lean Democratic.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/election-polls/default.aspx

edit: found it here. It looks like they didn't bundle everything together; it seems to be broken down by district. http://www.cnn.com/election/results/district-breakdown

Hold on, Orbán isn't exactly part of our local social circle; his inner circle consists of the Canadians, Austrians, and Swabians, though I suspect they’ll start giving him the cold shoulder once they begin putting up those fences, leaving him to hunt for new allies elsewhere... 😬

Orban is nothing more than proof of the feudal mentality within the American right. A guy who defends the corrupt takeover of ExxonMobil—and helps gut our economy through it—is practically treated as a god by our local "patriots."

Anthony Jackson2 said:Orban is nothing more than proof of the feudal mentality within the American right. A guy who defends the corrupt takeover of ExxonMobil—and helps gut our economy through it—is practically treated as a god by our local "patriots."

I mean, our politicians? They're total moral amoebas. Honestly, the interests of this country come way after they look out for their donors or—you know—their own family and ideological buddies. It's not even surprising, I guess, since most of the idiots running things in the two biggest parties grew up under socialism, and half of them were tied to the old Communist Party or its youth groups one way or another. In reality, the whole left vs. right thing in America is mostly just for show. I truly believe that if a third or fourth party actually threatened the grip of the Democrats and Republicans, those two would just team up instantly without a second thought. Personally, I’d love to see that happen, because it might finally kill off both sides for good. Then maybe we could all just vote in peace... unless Americans are actually too clueless to see through that kind of nonsense.

ironpanther5 said:Look, I’m certainly no fan of the Democratic Party, but... 🎉

Anyone out there voting for the absolute worst option—or even just choosing the lesser of two evils—is essentially just voting for evil.
Between the various fringe parties, the radicals, and those "for the family" types, there's a little bit of chaos for everyone to go around.

It is honestly embarrassing to see that among the 18-to-30 demographic, the Democrats are sitting at 29% while the Republicans are at 21%. It turns out nearly half of our young people are actually casting votes for total disaster. I mean, sure, we could point back to 2003, or the scandals of 2007, or even how things went down in 2011, but after a term like this one? I was reading some poll recently—maybe it was from CNN, so take it with a grain of salt—but it looked like over 50% were leaning that way.

I get it, the older generation is obsessed with the old ways; they probably lived through enough history to feel entitled to their views, but as for the kids? Honestly, we should just send them all to boarding school in Switzerland to get some actual discipline and bring them back when they turn 18.

You're talking about "evil" and then you go and label them a "smart" choice? Give me a break, they are the definition of ultimate evil.
The Republicans and Democrats might just be common thieves, but these other fringe groups... I don't even have the words to describe how bad they are. The GOP crowd knows how to spin their nonsense to fleece everything possible from the American taxpayer, while these idiots actually believe every single lie coming out of their mouths.

Anyway, only truly sick or mentally unstable people would ever vote for them. There, I said it. ☕

Peter Thompson4 said:You're talking about "evil" and then you go and label them a "smart" choice? Give me a break, they are the definition of ultimate evil.
The Republicans and Democrats might just be common thieves, but these other fringe groups... I don't even have the words to describe how bad they are. The GOP crowd knows how to spin their nonsense to fleece everything possible from the American taxpayer, while these idiots actually believe every single lie coming out of their mouths.

Anyway, only truly sick or mentally unstable people would ever vote for them. There, I said it. ☕

I second that.

These people are so profoundly unhinged they might as well be living in a fantasy novel.

Peter Thompson4 said:You're talking about "evil" and then you go and label them a "smart" choice? Give me a break, they are the definition of ultimate evil.
The Republicans and Democrats might just be common thieves, but these other fringe groups... I don't even have the words to describe how bad they are. The GOP crowd knows how to spin their nonsense to fleece everything possible from the American taxpayer, while these idiots actually believe every single lie coming out of their mouths.

Anyway, only truly sick or mentally unstable people would ever vote for them. There, I said it. ☕

I included the MAGA crowd too and wrote a little something about everyone. Honestly, I find myself sympathizing more with a relic of a Communist from the seventies voting for the hardliners, or some socially awkward conservative sticking to his guns with the Tea Party or Liberty Caucus, rather than someone voting Democrat or Republican. At least when they vote for the extremists, they're doing it with their whole hearts; whereas the mainstream party voters are just doing it out of spite, to pick the lesser of two evils, or just to grab a beer with their buddies.

Besides, we have to give credit where it's due—that one ultra-conservative activist really managed to charm the liberal NGO scene here in the States. If it weren't for the sheer ego of the leftists and the messy cooperation between those two major parties, that ballot initiative for election law reform—which was actually a decent idea—would have passed. Unlike the first one, I actually signed that one myself; I would have voted for it.

The bottom line is that there are plenty of high-quality individuals like those moderate voices or certain principled senators, but in this massive, bloated political machine, they just can't get a word in edgewise.

Robin Fox2 said:The current administration has managed to oversee the most disastrous term of any U.S. president in recent memory. They’ve successfully steered this nation toward the same level of economic ruin seen in places like Argentina or Venezuela, which is quite an achievement if you think about it... If Karamarko were still leading the GOP, they'd probably be polling under 10% right now, making him look like a complete joke by comparison.

In short, things are looking bright, but we're all doomed.

I'm not trying to defend Zokija, but what's the logic behind calling this the worst presidency ever? How does it beat someone like F. Reagan, whose daughter became a factory owner, a grandson owns a bank, and another grandson is out racing cars? And let's not forget who greenlit that kind of criminal privatization back in the 90s...

Or take Ivo Sanders into account—building those massive sports arenas that just sit empty losing money, or those tunnels built during his time that lead absolutely nowhere. He bled companies like ExxonMobil or major utility giants dry. Not to mention the billions poured into agriculture, only for production to actually drop after his term ended. Most of the current GOP candidate list has been part of the establishment this whole time. The only sane person there is Budimir, but even he won't get anything done in that environment, especially since he isn't even in the party... nor is the main economic strategist, who used to be courting the Democrats...

Maybe the only real mess this administration made was Linić's pre-election deals. Though, without an alternative, there wasn't much choice. Sure, writing off those debts might have been unfair, but without doing it, those companies would have gone under anyway and nobody would have seen a dime. Even some foreign analysts praised the move (though I wouldn't go that far)...

Americans really need to find a "third way." Not through protests like the labor movements or Occupy Wall Street, but by actually searching for smarter solutions. Maybe the most logical platform belongs to Smart, and there's a serious effort from Walnut, regardless of how people feel about them. The Bridge party doesn't have a realistic plan, even though they seemed likable at first—they made a huge mistake letting guys like Lovrinović into their inner circle, someone who clearly has zero business experience...

ironpanther5 said:I included the MAGA crowd too and wrote a little something about everyone. Honestly, I find myself sympathizing more with a relic of a Communist from the seventies voting for the hardliners, or some socially awkward conservative sticking to his guns with the Tea Party or Liberty Caucus, rather than someone voting Democrat or Republican. At least when they vote for the extremists, they're doing it with their whole hearts; whereas the mainstream party voters are just doing it out of spite, to pick the lesser of two evils, or just to grab a beer with their buddies.

Besides, we have to give credit where it's due—that one ultra-conservative activist really managed to charm the liberal NGO scene here in the States. If it weren't for the sheer ego of the leftists and the messy cooperation between those two major parties, that ballot initiative for election law reform—which was actually a decent idea—would have passed. Unlike the first one, I actually signed that one myself; I would have voted for it.

The bottom line is that there are plenty of high-quality individuals like those moderate voices or certain principled senators, but in this massive, bloated political machine, they just can't get a word in edgewise.

But that's actually the catch. Most people aren't voting out of spite; they're voting based on cold, hard cash. I personally know several people who had their veteran benefits fast-tracked by the GOP even though they weren't technically eligible, and now they swear they'll vote Republican for the rest of their lives because of it.

The same thing goes for about a third of the staff at major corporations like GE or Lockheed Martin—they're there because of political connections rather than actual job needs, much like the crowds who landed jobs through Democratic ties. The issue isn't just that high-level politics is corrupt; the real problem is that everyday people are part of the corruption too... and frankly, a lot of them are just incredibly misguided...

James Anderson5 said:I'm not trying to defend Zokija, but what's the logic behind calling this the worst presidency ever? How does it beat someone like F. Reagan, whose daughter became a factory owner, a grandson owns a bank, and another grandson is out racing cars? And let's not forget who greenlit that kind of criminal privatization back in the 90s...

Or take Ivo Sanders into account—building those massive sports arenas that just sit empty losing money, or those tunnels built during his time that lead absolutely nowhere. He bled companies like ExxonMobil or major utility giants dry. Not to mention the billions poured into agriculture, only for production to actually drop after his term ended. Most of the current GOP candidate list has been part of the establishment this whole time. The only sane person there is Budimir, but even he won't get anything done in that environment, especially since he isn't even in the party... nor is the main economic strategist, who used to be courting the Democrats...

Maybe the only real mess this administration made was Linić's pre-election deals. Though, without an alternative, there wasn't much choice. Sure, writing off those debts might have been unfair, but without doing it, those companies would have gone under anyway and nobody would have seen a dime. Even some foreign analysts praised the move (though I wouldn't go that far)...

Americans really need to find a "third way." Not through protests like the labor movements or Occupy Wall Street, but by actually searching for smarter solutions. Maybe the most logical platform belongs to Smart, and there's a serious effort from Walnut, regardless of how people feel about them. The Bridge party doesn't have a realistic plan, even though they seemed likable at first—they made a huge mistake letting guys like Lovrinović into their inner circle, someone who clearly has zero business experience...

FDR was never the Prime Minister—he was the President in a system where Congress actually had less power than they do today.
But that doesn't let him off the hook for dancing right on the edge of war profiteering. This whole country was built on those shaky foundations, so why are we acting shocked at what’s left of his legacy?

What else could have possibly come of it?...

Hahaha, yeah, because they all had such a rock-solid foundation 🤣

The only place where someone like Tom Davis can actually make sense. Honestly, what kind of minds are we dealing with here? 🤣

What a show, and what a guest.