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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#9721 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:Honestly, only Samsung can save us now


That’s exactly what I thought at first, but honestly, LG seems to be leading the pack with their tech right now.
I've been reading that those crazy Chinese brands are absolutely killing it lately too, though personally I'm still on the fence; does anyone here actually own one of their TVs, and is it any good or just hype?
wearyfox29 wearyfox29 Member
18 messages
joined Nov 2018
#9722 ·
Hisense is constantly advertising, but from what I gather, they really only broke through by pushing cheap 4K TVs. I have to agree that LG is the superior choice, especially since they hold the largest market share of all the brands anyway.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#9723 ·
Nah, we won't have any issues needing those cheap Chinese TVs, at least not for us living in Washington, D.C., since the whole gang just slashed the book budget in half.

Hopefully they actually pay back the citizens for all the money we've already poured in.🤷
Paul Martinez73 Paul Martinez73 Regular
356 messages
joined Aug 2018
#9724 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:Nah, we won't have any issues needing those cheap Chinese TVs, at least not for us living in Washington, D.C., since the whole gang just slashed the book budget in half.

Hopefully they actually pay back the citizens for all the money we've already poured in.🤷

What grade are you in?
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#9725 ·
I'm heading over to 3C now. What about you?
Paul Martinez73 Paul Martinez73 Regular
356 messages
joined Aug 2018
#9726 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:I'm heading over to 3C now. What about you?

Nah...
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jan 2018
#9727 ·
Paul Martinez73 said:Nah...

Come tell me that at the high school after five o'clock, right behind the gym, and then we'll see how things go.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#9728 ·
Man, class A was always full of those total nerds, while class B was just the "golden youth"—basically a bunch of walking farts—and class C? That’s where you found all the regular, totally normal decen☕t
kids.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#9729 ·
Look, nobody’s actually at fault here. And let’s get one thing straight—Ava Ava Ava isn’t just some mindless bystander. That’s exactly why (just so we don't get into a massive shouting match) they basically vacuumed up 800 million dollars from everyone's pensions to bail out Agrokor. No big deal, right?
Paul Martinez73 Paul Martinez73 Regular
356 messages
joined Aug 2018
#9730 ·
It honestly baffles me when people act shocked that money was embezzled, stolen, or handed out as bribes. Look, that’s literally why the government exists... I seriously doubt there isn't a single layer of society in the US where someone isn't paying off an inspector, a cop, a judge, or just calling in a favor from a buddy, a cousin, or even their old man.
And then you have people acting all outraged, like, "Oh my god, they stole a billion dollars!" We all know how the game is played. Whether it's Todoric, Mamic, Nadan, or whatever other name you want to throw in there, it's been happening forever and it isn't stopping anytime soon.

I actually have a friend who dropped $200 on a cop just to avoid losing his license while driving through Austria. He ended up getting months of jail time instantly instead.

There is simply zero chance—not even a 1% shot—that you can be 100% straight with the rules here. In other countries, you might get by with maybe 20% of the time without screwing anyone over, giving you at least a fighting chance at being a decent human. But here? If you aren't ripping off your boss twice a day, you won't be able to afford rent. And if you don't rip off the government, your waiter isn't going to be able to pay their bills or give you anything extra under the table. It's just one big endless cycle.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jan 2018
#9731 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:Look, nobody’s actually at fault here. And let’s get one thing straight—Ava Ava Ava isn’t just some mindless bystander. That’s exactly why (just so we don't get into a massive shouting match) they basically vacuumed up 800 million dollars from everyone's pensions to bail out Agrokor. No big deal, right?

Give me a break...
Let’s actually address this nonsense regarding the various groups first... We can tackle Agrokor later.
Agrokor will eventually manipulate the legal institutions of the state regardless; let's focus on the real issues here.
Thanks.
Paul Martinez73 said:It honestly baffles me when people act shocked that money was embezzled, stolen, or handed out as bribes. Look, that’s literally why the government exists... I seriously doubt there isn't a single layer of society in the US where someone isn't paying off an inspector, a cop, a judge, or just calling in a favor from a buddy, a cousin, or even their old man.
And then you have people acting all outraged, like, "Oh my god, they stole a billion dollars!" We all know how the game is played. Whether it's Todoric, Mamic, Nadan, or whatever other name you want to throw in there, it's been happening forever and it isn't stopping anytime soon.

I actually have a friend who dropped $200 on a cop just to avoid losing his license while driving through Austria. He ended up getting months of jail time instantly instead.

There is simply zero chance—not even a 1% shot—that you can be 100% straight with the rules here. In other countries, you might get by with maybe 20% of the time without screwing anyone over, giving you at least a fighting chance at being a decent human. But here? If you aren't ripping off your boss twice a day, you won't be able to afford rent. And if you don't rip off the government, your waiter isn't going to be able to pay their bills or give you anything extra under the table. It's just one big endless cycle.

America reminds me of something...
Oh, right. I remember now.
It’s like a club or a band. Desperate, violent bouncers, and entrance fees that are outrageously expensive. Even the drinks cost more than the ticket.
Then three guys start a brawl at the bar.
The sound system cuts out for ten minutes.
To make matters worse, the music kicks back in and the miserable band just keeps playing.

Slowly, people start trickling out, while the crowd at the bar gets hammered from pure frustration and the bouncers get even more agitated.

Then the power goes out entirely, a stampede breaks out toward the exit, and the bouncers just start swinging at anyone in their path.

That is exactly what America feels like to me.
We are currently in the penultimate stage.
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#9732 ·
Who's surprised by any of this?
I'm just saying, there's no point in fighting about it because we're all getting screwed over anyway. That insider tip was the same story—if they can actually verify that Deloitte is hiring Albanians, then the level of shady corruption is so deep that there aren't even enough idiots left in the States to agree to it.
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
460 messages
joined Jan 2010
#9733 ·
Paul Martinez73 said:It honestly baffles me when people act shocked that money was embezzled, stolen, or handed out as bribes. Look, that’s literally why the government exists... I seriously doubt there isn't a single layer of society in the US where someone isn't paying off an inspector, a cop, a judge, or just calling in a favor from a buddy, a cousin, or even their old man.
And then you have people acting all outraged, like, "Oh my god, they stole a billion dollars!" We all know how the game is played. Whether it's Todoric, Mamic, Nadan, or whatever other name you want to throw in there, it's been happening forever and it isn't stopping anytime soon.

I actually have a friend who dropped $200 on a cop just to avoid losing his license while driving through Austria. He ended up getting months of jail time instantly instead.

There is simply zero chance—not even a 1% shot—that you can be 100% straight with the rules here. In other countries, you might get by with maybe 20% of the time without screwing anyone over, giving you at least a fighting chance at being a decent human. But here? If you aren't ripping off your boss twice a day, you won't be able to afford rent. And if you don't rip off the government, your waiter isn't going to be able to pay their bills or give you anything extra under the table. It's just one big endless cycle.

So true. Moral lines aren't really drawn by whether you're cutting corners, but by how much you're doing it and whether you're being blatantly shameless about it. Like, maybe it's fine to pocket a few extra bucks from a couple of customers a day, but it's definitely not okay to join a massive corporation just to sit around and do nothing, or take bribes at a healthcare agency to get drugs added to a list, or rob a state-owned company until it goes bankrupt. Society is basically at rock bottom, with only a few rare exceptions...

Peter Thompson4 said:Who's surprised by any of this?
I'm just saying, there's no point in fighting about it because we're all getting screwed over anyway. That insider tip was the same story—if they can actually verify that Deloitte is hiring Albanians, then the level of shady corruption is so deep that there aren't even enough idiots left in the States to agree to it.

They were hiring Slovaks and other foreign nationals for years too (people who didn't necessarily have some incredible skills we couldn't find ourselves), so what's the actual difference between them and the ones you mentioned? Maybe the trick is that they have a perfect excuse to jack up their prices since they often work with government contractors...
Paul Martinez73 Paul Martinez73 Regular
356 messages
joined Aug 2018
#9734 ·
James Anderson5 said:So true. Moral lines aren't really drawn by whether you're cutting corners, but by how much you're doing it and whether you're being blatantly shameless about it. Like, maybe it's fine to pocket a few extra bucks from a couple of customers a day, but it's definitely not okay to join a massive corporation just to sit around and do nothing, or take bribes at a healthcare agency to get drugs added to a list, or rob a state-owned company until it goes bankrupt. Society is basically at rock bottom, with only a few rare exceptions...

They were hiring Slovaks and other foreign nationals for years too (people who didn't necessarily have some incredible skills we couldn't find ourselves), so what's the actual difference between them and the ones you mentioned? Maybe the trick is that they have a perfect excuse to jack up their prices since they often work with government contractors...

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or what?
You shouldn't be stealing from your employer, but let's be real—people do it just to survive because they're working for peanuts. If things were actually normal, it wouldn't even cross your mind. You'd have a decent salary, tips, and live like any regular waiter in a functional country.
If the boss didn't have to deal with such insane taxes, he’d pay you a fair wage, you wouldn't feel the need to skim from him and essentially steal from the government at the same time. You wouldn't risk your job over a few stolen bucks, and he wouldn't risk his business by paying you $333 under the table.
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
460 messages
joined Jan 2010
#9735 ·
Paul Martinez73 said:I can't tell if this is sarcasm or what?
You shouldn't be stealing from your employer, but let's be real—people do it just to survive because they're working for peanuts. If things were actually normal, it wouldn't even cross your mind. You'd have a decent salary, tips, and live like any regular waiter in a functional country.
If the boss didn't have to deal with such insane taxes, he’d pay you a fair wage, you wouldn't feel the need to skim from him and essentially steal from the government at the same time. You wouldn't risk your job over a few stolen bucks, and he wouldn't risk his business by paying you $333 under the table.

Well, it is irony; the whole system is broken at every single level. Here in America, it’s genuinely tough for any business owner to report an employee for their full salary because the tax burden is just way too high. And the reason those taxes are so heavy is because they have to fund public procurement fraud and political cronyism at every level, on top of all the standard government expenses...

Anyway, I personally don't know anyone working in the public sector who feels like they're living off someone else's hard work, even though I know plenty of people who barely do anything all day. And don't even get me started on fraudulent pensions; I haven't met a single person involved in that who actually felt a shred of guilt...
Paul Martinez73 Paul Martinez73 Regular
356 messages
joined Aug 2018
#9736 ·
If you want a job in government, 99% of the time you basically have to be a member of a political party. Take the Democratic-Republican coalition in Washington, D.C., for example... if you're actually part of one of those parties, do you honestly think you still have a conscience?
The only thing driving you is the dream of getting a cushy, unearned position.

I know this guy who used to be a teacher at a local school; he mostly just messed around and didn't do a lick of actual work. Eventually, he got fired. He wasn't exactly struggling for cash back then, but he was getting by.
Once he couldn't find anything else in his field, he decided to head over to Germany.
He’s working there now and making twice what he made as a teacher, but damn, he has to spend all day on his feet. He spends half his time trash-talking Germany like everything there is wrong and everyone is to blame, yet here he is, living a perfectly normal life.

Why? Because you have to work, I guess. But he’s constantly looking for a way to crawl back into some cozy government role where he can do nothing and just scrape by—he'd take half the pay just to avoid being on his feet all day. It's the same vibe with the crew at JU; they just want to do zero work and call it a day. They effectively put in two hours a day and don't even care that their offices are tiny.

And people like that are the ones teaching our kids today.
Olivia Taylor2 Olivia Taylor2 Active Member
86 messages
joined Dec 2015
#9737 ·
Paul Martinez73 said:If you want a job in government, 99% of the time you basically have to be a member of a political party. Take the Democratic-Republican coalition in Washington, D.C., for example... if you're actually part of one of those parties, do you honestly think you still have a conscience?
The only thing driving you is the dream of getting a cushy, unearned position.

I know this guy who used to be a teacher at a local school; he mostly just messed around and didn't do a lick of actual work. Eventually, he got fired. He wasn't exactly struggling for cash back then, but he was getting by.
Once he couldn't find anything else in his field, he decided to head over to Germany.
He’s working there now and making twice what he made as a teacher, but damn, he has to spend all day on his feet. He spends half his time trash-talking Germany like everything there is wrong and everyone is to blame, yet here he is, living a perfectly normal life.

Why? Because you have to work, I guess. But he’s constantly looking for a way to crawl back into some cozy government role where he can do nothing and just scrape by—he'd take half the pay just to avoid being on his feet all day. It's the same vibe with the crew at JU; they just want to do zero work and call it a day. They effectively put in two hours a day and don't even care that their offices are tiny.

And people like that are the ones teaching our kids today.

That guy is actually a product of a rotten system. Hardly anyone in America has any real motivation to go into education just to work in a public school. In the West, you usually see the top students enrolling in those programs, but here, it’s mostly average people. Personally, I know some who can barely handle basic grammar, yet they’re studying education or preschool training. And damn, one day they’ll be teaching your child, heavily influencing their upbringing and how they grow as a person—all while navigating an educational system that is outdated and decaying. So, as the years pass, nothing changes; whenever someone actually tries to fix things, it gets smothered immediately.
Andrew Hayes2 Andrew Hayes2 Member
20 messages
joined Jun 2017
#9738 ·
Paul Martinez73 said:If you want a job in government, 99% of the time you basically have to be a member of a political party. Take the Democratic-Republican coalition in Washington, D.C., for example... if you're actually part of one of those parties, do you honestly think you still have a conscience?
The only thing driving you is the dream of getting a cushy, unearned position.

I know this guy who used to be a teacher at a local school; he mostly just messed around and didn't do a lick of actual work. Eventually, he got fired. He wasn't exactly struggling for cash back then, but he was getting by.
Once he couldn't find anything else in his field, he decided to head over to Germany.
He’s working there now and making twice what he made as a teacher, but damn, he has to spend all day on his feet. He spends half his time trash-talking Germany like everything there is wrong and everyone is to blame, yet here he is, living a perfectly normal life.

Why? Because you have to work, I guess. But he’s constantly looking for a way to crawl back into some cozy government role where he can do nothing and just scrape by—he'd take half the pay just to avoid being on his feet all day. It's the same vibe with the crew at JU; they just want to do zero work and call it a day. They effectively put in two hours a day and don't even care that their offices are tiny.

And people like that are the ones teaching our kids today.

It’s like Seneca already pointed out all those years ago. Being poor isn't about having very little; it’s about constantly craving more...
William Gomez5 William Gomez5 Active Member
233 messages
joined May 2018
#9739 ·
Olivia Taylor2 said:That guy is actually a product of a rotten system. Hardly anyone in America has any real motivation to go into education just to work in a public school. In the West, you usually see the top students enrolling in those programs, but here, it’s mostly average people. Personally, I know some who can barely handle basic grammar, yet they’re studying education or preschool training. And damn, one day they’ll be teaching your child, heavily influencing their upbringing and how they grow as a person—all while navigating an educational system that is outdated and decaying. So, as the years pass, nothing changes; whenever someone actually tries to fix things, it gets smothered immediately.

There are plenty of folks on this forum who went through teacher training and can back this up 100% 😁
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
775 messages
joined May 2007
#9740 ·
They’re out here quoting Roman philosophers and training to be teachers... if we were living in the ancient era, they would have had VB16 running the show. Truly the golden age. ☕

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