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Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
769 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1261 ·
I’m not interested in spreading propaganda; I’ve actually been to Syria, so I have a sense of how things really work there. To be honest, Assad's military has killed thousands upon thousands of these rebels—and many of them are just regular people with families and friends. I guess you have to wonder how his rule can still be considered legitimate after killing so many people. It doesn't really matter who the opposition is or who leads them. There are specific reasons why things are happening in Syria and not in the States. Back home, if an American Prime Minister were caught taking a few million dollars in bribes, they'd be forced to resign immediately, yet this guy claims legitimacy just because he used tanks to defend it. How yes no. If Assad had any shred of morality left, he probably would have stepped down, since Syria is essentially a living hell right now and he’s largely responsible for that. Maybe he seems like a better option than the radical opposition at this moment, but his hands are definitely stained with blood. I suspect there's no way he could lead a unified, peaceful Syria after a war like this. Even before the conflict started, it was basically a police state where officers were on every corner, though I suppose some might argue that's just because the people love their leader so much.
vividseal12 vividseal12 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2014
#1262 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:You've got it wrong. The Russians already had a military base there. Crimea has massive autonomy, and their military was stationed there the whole time; they didn't "invade" or seize anything. A referendum was held first, and the secession happened after that. It's about a people's right to self-determination...

So what, I guess we were supposed to just accept and recognize the Republic of Mexican Appalachia too?
Noah Ross7 Noah Ross7 Regular
355 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1263 ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:I guess it depends on which news outlets you follow, but I feel like Gaza has been all over the headlines lately. Maybe the coverage on Ukraine has just started to slow down a bit.

What are they saying?
"Israel is defending itself from Hamas airstrikes"?

🙂
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
769 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1264 ·
Noah Ross7 said:What are they saying?
"Israel is defending itself from Hamas airstrikes"?

🙂

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28468526
Noah Ross7 Noah Ross7 Regular
355 messages
joined Dec 2008
#1265 ·
Once again, I don't see the world spitting on Israel the way they do with the Russians, for instance.
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
407 messages
joined Jun 2021
#1266 ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:I’m not interested in spreading propaganda; I’ve actually been to Syria, so I have a sense of how things really work there. To be honest, Assad's military has killed thousands upon thousands of these rebels—and many of them are just regular people with families and friends. I guess you have to wonder how his rule can still be considered legitimate after killing so many people. It doesn't really matter who the opposition is or who leads them. There are specific reasons why things are happening in Syria and not in the States. Back home, if an American Prime Minister were caught taking a few million dollars in bribes, they'd be forced to resign immediately, yet this guy claims legitimacy just because he used tanks to defend it. How yes no. If Assad had any shred of morality left, he probably would have stepped down, since Syria is essentially a living hell right now and he’s largely responsible for that. Maybe he seems like a better option than the radical opposition at this moment, but his hands are definitely stained with blood. I suspect there's no way he could lead a unified, peaceful Syria after a war like this. Even before the conflict started, it was basically a police state where officers were on every corner, though I suppose some might argue that's just because the people love their leader so much.

The "rebels" aren't even citizens anymore; they're just a bunch of terrorists, or at least more than just insurgents. So, when a protest breaks out that's largely fueled by foreign interests, is the President supposed to just step down because of a mob of terrorists? How, yes, no. And what do they actually gain from that?? Just look at how Libya ended once Gaddafi was overthrown—total chaos. There are plenty of other examples.

If such a tyrant is what you’re portraying, then how stupid does the population have to be to show up at the polls and vote for him by a massive 90% margin? The eyes of the entire West are on them, yet the people just need to stand up a little bit and it's over. Who is actually supporting Assad? How is he holding his own against all that foreign aid being funneled to the "rebels"? How is he winning this war? Because the Syrian people are standing firmly behind him. It’s a hell of a story, and it’ll be even better once they secure a final victory. ☕

Go ahead, tell me it's perfectly legitimate for the US to be over there fueling terrorists. They accuse him of using poison gas without providing a shred of evidence, only for it to turn out that the "rebels" were the ones responsible in the end. 🙄
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
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joined Mar 2012
#1267 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:The "rebels" aren't even citizens anymore; they're just a bunch of terrorists, or at least more than just insurgents. So, when a protest breaks out that's largely fueled by foreign interests, is the President supposed to just step down because of a mob of terrorists? How, yes, no. And what do they actually gain from that?? Just look at how Libya ended once Gaddafi was overthrown—total chaos. There are plenty of other examples.

If such a tyrant is what you’re portraying, then how stupid does the population have to be to show up at the polls and vote for him by a massive 90% margin? The eyes of the entire West are on them, yet the people just need to stand up a little bit and it's over. Who is actually supporting Assad? How is he holding his own against all that foreign aid being funneled to the "rebels"? How is he winning this war? Because the Syrian people are standing firmly behind him. It’s a hell of a story, and it’ll be even better once they secure a final victory. ☕

Go ahead, tell me it's perfectly legitimate for the US to be over there fueling terrorists. They accuse him of using poison gas without providing a shred of evidence, only for it to turn out that the "rebels" were the ones responsible in the end. 🙄

Maybe if you stepped away from the screen for a moment and looked beyond this whole U.S.-Russia polarization, you might see things differently. This way of thinking doesn't really make sense to me. I don't think I could teach you in just a few posts how to realize that graveyards are full of leaders who thought they were irreplaceable.
Noah Roberts46 Noah Roberts46 Regular
407 messages
joined Jun 2021
#1268 ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:Maybe if you stepped away from the screen for a moment and looked beyond this whole U.S.-Russia polarization, you might see things differently. This way of thinking doesn't really make sense to me. I don't think I could teach you in just a few posts how to realize that graveyards are full of leaders who thought they were irreplaceable.

I wasn't even talking about Russia—what does that have to do with anything? I’m talking about Syria. I mentioned the US because they explicitly stated they’re backing certain rebels/terrorists. 🤷

I'm not claiming Assad is indispensable, but what exactly do you gain by removing him? Chaos. It’s chaos right now. I don't know when you were last in Syria, but what exactly did you expect to find there? It makes zero sense to me: if he’s such a tyrant, how is he practically fighting off the entire Western world? Who is providing that support? Just the people? And why on earth would the people do that for a tyrant like him?😕
Taylor Cook96 Taylor Cook96 Member
29 messages
joined Apr 2014
#1269 ·
Look, everything else seems fine, I guess, but what happens when they shove this future tyrant Casey White13 into the top spot instead of Moda? 😲

😁
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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joined Jan 2018
#1270 ·
Future plans?
ambertinker41 ambertinker41 Regular
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joined Jun 2012
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Richard Lee3 Richard Lee3 Newcomer
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Noah Perez12 Noah Perez12 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#1273 ·
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Noah Ross7 Noah Ross7 Regular
355 messages
joined Dec 2008
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bluebison47 bluebison47 Regular
469 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1275 ·
Eric Fox7 said:Yeah, I'm totally with you, this show is freaking incredible.

Have you checked out the second season yet?

Verica 😍

I haven't actually started yet... I mean, I might get moving on this in the next few days, or perhaps even tonight, I suppose. Maybe. 🙂

It’s all just an illusion, really. A complete fabrication. I mean, honestly... everything you think you see, everything you take for granted—it’s nothing more than a mirage. Just smoke and mirrors. I guess it doesn't matter how much we try to grasp at the truth; it slips right through your fingers like sand. It's all quite hollow, if you ask me. Total nonsense. 😍...but then again, they aren't exactly some young upstarts you can just brush aside either (Olivia and Nicola, for instance). I mean, maybe they have their moments, I guess, but one can't simply dismiss them entirely. Not quite. 😍)
Ashley Bailey6 Ashley Bailey6 Active Member
208 messages
joined Jun 2013
#1276 ·
What a strike.

Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
702 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1277 ·
it’s actually pretty decent that she even made it through
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1278 ·
🙏
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
769 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1279 ·
I caught a glimpse of that just a few weeks ago. What an incredible rotation! 🙏
Robin Fox2 Robin Fox2 Regular
523 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1280 ·
I happen to know a girl from Facebook 🙏

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