Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Paul Sanders5 said:Give me a break with all these conspiracy theories.

I’m really over this constant finger-pointing at everyone. Let me say this loud and clear—I've been saying it since day one: If you have people who actually *should* be isolating, right? Then punish them. From what I can see, the cops are out there checking if people are staying put; they can't monitor everyone 24/7, obviously, but they're doing the work.

As for everyone else? If I go visit some relatives, then:
1. I'm an idiot because I'm socializing.
2. My family are morons for not telling me, "Hey, beat it, don't come over."

It feels like we're asking way too much by expecting people to just take some damn responsibility for themselves. I keep bringing up my dad—he's in a high-risk group, 80+ years old. He went into isolation on his own; he doesn't want anyone visiting and he isn't going anywhere. He takes care of himself.

Then on the flip side, you've got people throwing parties and get-togethers. I'll ask two questions: yeah, the organizers are idiots—all five of them—but what kind of idiots are the people showing up to these parties? If someone called me to hang out right now, I wouldn't go. Not even because I'm scared of getting sick, but because it's just plain irresponsible. I don't need the government breathing down my neck to tell me that.

ruggedjackal46 said:So, is the real solution for the government to act just like him and start handing out mass layoffs? How exactly would that work?

restlesssurfer97 said:Look, it’s simple math—the less you test, the fewer sick people you find. 😉

And no, you didn't disagree with the Pope in that last paragraph, you disagreed with me. ☕

Paul Martinez73 said:Are you being serious right now??
I usually have you on mute, but I decided to check out what you wrote. Do you even realize you could have traveled anywhere in America last week too?

As luck would have it, I landed at a German airport yesterday, so maybe try to get a grip before you start replying to people. Nobody is questioning you. 🤣
They aren't interrogating you like you're joining ISIS; they check you over, run tests, give you a solution if you need self-isolation, and if you show symptoms, you report it.
Seriously, you have Google—maybe try using it once before jumping into an argument with such nonsense.

And are you even aware that when you travel out of the country, the destination is the one taking responsibility for you?

Paul Sanders5 said:Another brilliant move from the top brass. If you head out somewhere without a pass, you're looking at a $30k fine. Break quarantine? That'll be an $8k hit. 🤣

Seriously, just screw it. We’re getting exactly what we deserve. 😁

Amanda Evans2 said:30k without even a pass, rofl
This has become absolutely sick...

ruggedjackal46 said:Dammit, if you started handing out non-selective layoffs to a massive chunk of people right now (we're talking 50% of the public sector?!), all you'd end up doing is creating a mountain of social welfare cases that the government would just have to deal with all over again. People are stuck in isolation, they aren't even allowed to leave their houses, and now you want to slap them with a pink slip and strip away their financial stability? Seriously, what are they supposed to live on?

William Kim said:Is the solution really just having the state blow money it doesn't even have?

Laura Chavez93 Asks:
Seriously, let's just go ahead and screw over the private sector—the very same one that, by the way, actually keeps the public sector running. ☕

Paul Sanders5 said:Give me a break with all these conspiracy theories.

I’m really over this constant finger-pointing at everyone. Let me say this loud and clear—I've been saying it since day one: If you have people who actually *should* be isolating, right? Then punish them. From what I can see, the cops are out there checking if people are staying put; they can't monitor everyone 24/7, obviously, but they're doing the work.

As for everyone else? If I go visit some relatives, then:
1. I'm an idiot because I'm socializing.
2. My family are morons for not telling me, "Hey, beat it, don't come over."

It feels like we're asking way too much by expecting people to just take some damn responsibility for themselves. I keep bringing up my dad—he's in a high-risk group, 80+ years old. He went into isolation on his own; he doesn't want anyone visiting and he isn't going anywhere. He takes care of himself.

Then on the flip side, you've got people throwing parties and get-togethers. I'll ask two questions: yeah, the organizers are idiots—all five of them—but what kind of idiots are the people showing up to these parties? If someone called me to hang out right now, I wouldn't go. Not even because I'm scared of getting sick, but because it's just plain irresponsible. I don't need the government breathing down my neck to tell me that.

ruggedjackal46 said:Dammit, if you started handing out non-selective layoffs to a massive chunk of people right now (we're talking 50% of the public sector?!), all you'd end up doing is creating a mountain of social welfare cases that the government would just have to deal with all over again. People are stuck in isolation, they aren't even allowed to leave their houses, and now you want to slap them with a pink slip and strip away their financial stability? Seriously, what are they supposed to live on?

ruggedjackal46 said:Dammit, if you started handing out non-selective layoffs to a massive chunk of people right now (we're talking 50% of the public sector?!), all you'd end up doing is creating a mountain of social welfare cases that the government would just have to deal with all over again. People are stuck in isolation, they aren't even allowed to leave their houses, and now you want to slap them with a pink slip and strip away their financial stability? Seriously, what are they supposed to live on?

ruggedjackal46 said:Dammit, if you started handing out non-selective layoffs to a massive chunk of people right now (we're talking 50% of the public sector?!), all you'd end up doing is creating a mountain of social welfare cases that the government would just have to deal with all over again. People are stuck in isolation, they aren't even allowed to leave their houses, and now you want to slap them with a pink slip and strip away their financial stability? Seriously, what are they supposed to live on?

Scientist Ivan Đikić joined a live N1 studio session via Skype.

"The absolute priority is stopping the spread. Isolation is unavoidable, and we have to stay on top of hygiene. If we actually stick to this, we can see much better results than some other countries," Đikić said.

"There isn't an effective cure yet, and there's no vaccine for this virus. All we have left is a timely epidemiological defense. If we isolate those spreading the virus, the number of cases will drop, which frees up the healthcare system by preventing massive surges, ultimately lowering the death rate," Đikić told N1.

"Even though these measures might seem overly strict to some, they are exactly what we need to rein in the pandemic and save lives," the scientist added.

"Thousands of scientists worldwide are racing to develop a vaccine, but even with the most optimistic forecasts, we're looking at 12 to 18 months before we have something safe," Đikić noted.

More details coming soon...

Ashley Bailey6 said:https://www.b92.net/sport/fudbal/ves...nav_id=1669595

That's just how it is.

If Dinamo had actually faced those "bats," maybe Italy wouldn't be in such a mess right now.