Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

The Italians went into quarantine back on March 9th.

Today, there are 4,000 new infections.

It makes sense that numbers dropped by maybe 1,000 or 2,000, since there aren't really many people left to catch it.☕

But I don't really see any sign that their quarantine is actually working.🤷

bluebison47 said:So, there was no story happening in a place where self-isolation rules were being blatantly and openly ignored? I mean, if it's not making fools of us—the ones actually following the rules by staying away from bars, cultural hubs, or sports venues—then maybe it's just making a fool out of my grandmother. She’d probably be heading to Easter Mass right now if she could, but, well, life happens, I guess.

Why are believers getting so worked up if they aren't even doing anything wrong or prohibited? We didn't see scenes like this last Easter, for instance, when they'd film hundreds of people outside the Cathedral and other churches all over the country.

If I wanted to be particularly nasty and stir the pot even more, I could compare this to those times when Masses are held specifically for ultra-nationalist thugs, and then, once the media reports on it, everyone suddenly plays the "anti-fascist" card and acts outraged to hide what they actually did. 🙏

Yeah, it's blown up into a much bigger scandal than it really is, but honestly, that journalist still holds the moral high ground in this whole mess.

1. You clearly don't understand what self-isolation actually means.
2. You don't get what a "story" is in this context, specifically when we're talking about pure clickbait journalism.

Paul Martinez73 said:So why don't they crash private parties or backyard BBQs? Or end up in public parks?
Because then there wouldn't be much of a story; she could have just called the cops, waited for them to show up, and that's that. 🤷

She wanted a reaction, and honestly, she got one. If she had stayed outside, filmed everything, and called the police, that would have been something else.
That would have actually been journalism, but this is just pure provocation—chasing clicks and manufacturing drama where none exists.

How can you even be sure she wasn't at a Backyard BBQ or somewhere in Golden Gate Park? 🤷 Besides, parks and private parties aren't off-limits or locked down, unlike churches and other secular institutions.

Even if she wasn't, maybe that just wasn't her assignment. It’s not like she went into this specific church to launch a personal crusade against the cross; she was likely just following orders.

The funniest part of all this is watching people practically advocate for stripping away freedom of speech and reporting rights, yet they’re the first ones to start shouting about "that old regime"—which, heaven help us, actually championed and enforced those very same ideas. 😍

bluebison47 said:How can you even be sure she wasn't at a Backyard BBQ or somewhere in Golden Gate Park? 🤷 Besides, parks and private parties aren't off-limits or locked down, unlike churches and other secular institutions.

Even if she wasn't, maybe that just wasn't her assignment. It’s not like she went into this specific church to launch a personal crusade against the cross; she was likely just following orders.

The funniest part of all this is watching people practically advocate for stripping away freedom of speech and reporting rights, yet they’re the first ones to start shouting about "that old regime"—which, heaven help us, actually championed and enforced those very same ideas. 😍

Have you ever actually heard of private property and respecting it?

urbanhawk17 said:The Italians went into quarantine back on March 9th.

Today, there are 4,000 new infections.

It makes sense that numbers dropped by maybe 1,000 or 2,000, since there aren't really many people left to catch it.☕

But I don't really see any sign that their quarantine is actually working.🤷

I guess we just have to sit tight and wait for Daddy Gates to whip up some miracle vaccine—you know, our dear old benefactor and humanitarian hero.

urbanhawk17 said:The Italians went into quarantine back on March 9th.

Today, there are 4,000 new infections.

It makes sense that numbers dropped by maybe 1,000 or 2,000, since there aren't really many people left to catch it.☕

But I don't really see any sign that their quarantine is actually working.🤷

At this point, those are probably all just internal cases where it spreads among family members and stuff.

Who really knows what the situation is over there? We don't have the actual data, so maybe people are still out wandering around just like they are here. At least Americans reacted in time, so we didn't see that massive sudden spike. That part was handled pretty well by the authorities.

bluebison47 said:How can you even be sure she wasn't at a Backyard BBQ or somewhere in Golden Gate Park? 🤷 Besides, parks and private parties aren't off-limits or locked down, unlike churches and other secular institutions.

Even if she wasn't, maybe that just wasn't her assignment. It’s not like she went into this specific church to launch a personal crusade against the cross; she was likely just following orders.

The funniest part of all this is watching people practically advocate for stripping away freedom of speech and reporting rights, yet they’re the first ones to start shouting about "that old regime"—which, heaven help us, actually championed and enforced those very same ideas. 😍

Private parties are strictly banned, and you can't even hang out in parks unless you're with your family. There are plenty of police reports on the subject... ☕
It was that one woman I personally linked—the one who was lecturing people in the park about why they weren't keeping their distance from CNN... funny how the exact same crowd attacking those people gathered together now were the ones mocking them back then and pushing the idea that everyone should just hang out and get together...
🤷

Freedom of speech? Reporting? Please, give me a break. If you actually bother to read all our posts explaining this, you'll see we all agree she broke the rules, which is exactly why some guy snatched the phone right out of her hand... It wasn't about Pop or Jesus or three million believers, just one guy who decided to take justice into his own hands and ended up getting detained for it.

Amy Nelson4 said:Have you ever actually heard of private property and respecting it?

What actually matters more here? What's the real priority? Is it protecting privacy on someone's private property, or is it following the Law—you know, the kind that's directly tied to protecting public health? I mean, I guess it's a tough one... maybe. It feels like we're constantly torn between the two.

That’s... I mean, that's like saying we shouldn't care if there's white powder being moved around or violence happening in some nursing home, right? Because, well, have I ever heard of private property? I guess... maybe? It's just... it's a bit much, isn't it?🕺

bluebison47 said:What actually matters more here? What's the real priority? Is it protecting privacy on someone's private property, or is it following the Law—you know, the kind that's directly tied to protecting public health? I mean, I guess it's a tough one... maybe. It feels like we're constantly torn between the two.

That’s... I mean, that's like saying we shouldn't care if there's white powder being moved around or violence happening in some nursing home, right? Because, well, have I ever heard of private property? I guess... maybe? It's just... it's a bit much, isn't it?🕺

It's like you're saying we shouldn't care that everyone is dealing drugs in their houses and dealers are walking the streets selling weight, let's just head to Church because a joint once caught fire in there.

wiredrider9 said:I guess we just have to sit tight and wait for Daddy Gates to whip up some miracle vaccine—you know, our dear old benefactor and humanitarian hero.

Elizabeth Mendoza said:At this point, those are probably all just internal cases where it spreads among family members and stuff.

Who really knows what the situation is over there? We don't have the actual data, so maybe people are still out wandering around just like they are here. At least Americans reacted in time, so we didn't see that massive sudden spike. That part was handled pretty well by the authorities.

But they did it—they took those countries with high infection rates and ran way more tests. Like, double the amount of the next group, so I suppose it's no surprise they have so many positive cases.

Still, I don't see quarantine doing much.

Empty cities, this and that, nobody is out anywhere, then boom, 4,000 new cases.

Paul Martinez73 said:Private parties are strictly banned, and you can't even hang out in parks unless you're with your family. There are plenty of police reports on the subject... ☕
It was that one woman I personally linked—the one who was lecturing people in the park about why they weren't keeping their distance from CNN... funny how the exact same crowd attacking those people gathered together now were the ones mocking them back then and pushing the idea that everyone should just hang out and get together...
🤷

Freedom of speech? Reporting? Please, give me a break. If you actually bother to read all our posts explaining this, you'll see we all agree she broke the rules, which is exactly why some guy snatched the phone right out of her hand... It wasn't about Pop or Jesus or three million believers, just one guy who decided to take justice into his own hands and ended up getting detained for it.

Private parties and parks aren't closed off or forbidden, provided it's within the immediate family circle.

It's just like how the church isn't closed to family events: baptisms and weddings aren't banned, assuming someone wants a wedding with just a few guests.

bluebison47 said:What actually matters more here? What's the real priority? Is it protecting privacy on someone's private property, or is it following the Law—you know, the kind that's directly tied to protecting public health? I mean, I guess it's a tough one... maybe. It feels like we're constantly torn between the two.

That’s... I mean, that's like saying we shouldn't care if there's white powder being moved around or violence happening in some nursing home, right? Because, well, have I ever heard of private property? I guess... maybe? It's just... it's a bit much, isn't it?🕺

Protecting public health? Hahahahaha. Like, only 30 people die a day from cigarettes in America, so nobody gives a damn—just hike up the prices so they can line their pockets and call it "public health safety." Meanwhile, for the director of a nursing home, they just put a history professor in charge hahahahaha.

bluebison47 said:Private parties and parks aren't closed off or forbidden, provided it's within the immediate family circle.

It's just like how the church isn't closed to family events: baptisms and weddings aren't banned, assuming someone wants a wedding with just a few guests.

That’s not what I’m talking about, and you know it perfectly well.

I'm talking about BBQs with friends, hanging out with family, or having people over at the house with the crew. Don't twist my words; I can pull up a few police reports for you. No reporters ever showed up to those.

The whole private property argument when it comes to filming in a Cathedral is old news—it's been done before. 🙏

Even if that logic holds up, is there actually a law that gives you the right to physically assault someone just because they're filming you? Or is that handled differently by the legal system?

Let's not play dumb here—they attacked her because she caught them breaking the rules. It’s just the standard reaction from any Criminal caught red-handed. 🤷

wiredrider9 said:Protecting public health? Hahahahaha. Like, only 30 people die a day from cigarettes in America, so nobody gives a damn—just hike up the prices so they can line their pockets and call it "public health safety." Meanwhile, for the director of a nursing home, they just put a history professor in charge hahahahaha.

I mean, isn't it just... I don't know, maybe it's all the same thing? You have this virus, right? A contagion where you can only really play defense—you can't exactly choose whether or not someone decides to infect you or not. It’s out of your hands, I guess. And then you look at a simple decision, like whether you decide to smoke or not. You actually have options there. But when you really sit down and think about it... they're totally the same thing. I suppose. Just an observation, really. 🙏

The same old dust cloud kicked up around that nursing home director when he was first appointed—you know, the whole media circus where journalists report on it, condemn him, and then... nothing. It just vanishes. It’s exactly like what we're seeing today. I mean, what do people actually expect? Do you honestly think reporters have the authority to just decide to fire a director on their own? I guess not, but the cycle is always the same. Just noise.

bluebison47 said:What actually matters more here? What's the real priority? Is it protecting privacy on someone's private property, or is it following the Law—you know, the kind that's directly tied to protecting public health? I mean, I guess it's a tough one... maybe. It feels like we're constantly torn between the two.

That’s... I mean, that's like saying we shouldn't care if there's white powder being moved around or violence happening in some nursing home, right? Because, well, have I ever heard of private property? I guess... maybe? It's just... it's a bit much, isn't it?🕺

Since when have journalists been the ones enforcing laws that are directly tied to protecting public health?

Look, if you’re out there growing or dealing drugs—just a hypothetical, obviously—the police can't just barge in whenever they feel like it. They need a warrant. And warrants? Those are issued by a judge. You probably already knew that, though—I mean, I shouldn't assume, but let's be real.
If things ever get physical at home—you know, if the police actually witness or hear any domestic violence happening—they can step in and react right then and there.
You can't just barge onto private property whenever you feel like it.

Anthony Jackson2 said:The whole private property argument when it comes to filming in a Cathedral is old news—it's been done before. 🙏

Even if that logic holds up, is there actually a law that gives you the right to physically assault someone just because they're filming you? Or is that handled differently by the legal system?

Let's not play dumb here—they attacked her because she caught them breaking the rules. It’s just the standard reaction from any Criminal caught red-handed. 🤷

They're Criminals because they were at Mass. 🙏

Anthony Jackson2 said:The whole private property argument when it comes to filming in a Cathedral is old news—it's been done before. 🙏

Even if that logic holds up, is there actually a law that gives you the right to physically assault someone just because they're filming you? Or is that handled differently by the legal system?

Let's not play dumb here—they attacked her because she caught them breaking the rules. It’s just the standard reaction from any Criminal caught red-handed. 🤷

And was he arrested because he took matters into his own hands?
She showed up looking for a fight, got one, handed out some herself, and now he’ll have to answer for those hits.

Amy Nelson4 said:Since when have journalists been the ones enforcing laws that are directly tied to protecting public health?

Look, if you’re out there growing or dealing drugs—just a hypothetical, obviously—the police can't just barge in whenever they feel like it. They need a warrant. And warrants? Those are issued by a judge. You probably already knew that, though—I mean, I shouldn't assume, but let's be real.
If things ever get physical at home—you know, if the police actually witness or hear any domestic violence happening—they can step in and react right then and there.
You can't just barge onto private property whenever you feel like it.

They aren't enforcing the Law, but they certainly have the right—and maybe even the obligation—to point out when it's being broken, whether that happens in the middle of Times Square or in the privacy of some weekend cabin up in the Appalachian Mountains.

Unless, of course, you’re acting with good intentions, then I guess you can wander into a church or onto private property however you please 🙏 🙏 But if we’re doing something that isn't allowed, well, then they aren't going to just let us get away with it. 🙏

bluebison47 said:They aren't enforcing the Law, but they certainly have the right—and maybe even the obligation—to point out when it's being broken, whether that happens in the middle of Times Square or in the privacy of some weekend cabin up in the Appalachian Mountains.

Unless, of course, you’re acting with good intentions, then I guess you can wander into a church or onto private property however you please 🙏 🙏 But if we’re doing something that isn't allowed, well, then they aren't going to just let us get away with it. 🙏

Look, nobody is even arguing that they can and should.
If, for instance, you found out about some criminal activity involving the LA Galaxy, would you really march up to Mamić waving paperwork and trespass onto his private estate, or would you just head to the police or the District Attorney?