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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
222 messages
joined Oct 2008
#17401 ·
Anthony Wright30 said:Franz Joseph

Keeping it local, I guess? I mean, Franz Ferdinand would have been a much bigger deal, but history just happened the way it did, you know...
Jesse Sullivan5 Jesse Sullivan5 Regular
309 messages
joined Aug 2018
#17402 ·
When it comes to VB16, Puigdemont is hands down the absolute GOAT. ☕
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
222 messages
joined Oct 2008
#17403 ·
It just feels like the natural progression after all those guys named Frank... you eventually land on General Frank Franko.
steelharbor9 steelharbor9 Active Member
198 messages
joined Jul 2012
#17404 ·
It’s honestly tough to pick a single GOAT, but this guy definitely had the most legendary final words ever. 🙏 🙏

He is remembered for his ironic last words: "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance."
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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joined Nov 2014
#17405 ·
Shaban Shaulic and everyone else...
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 Regular
287 messages
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#17406 ·
Carol Lewis said:But what kind of criteria are we using here? It's actually a pretty tough question to answer on the spot...

Trophies, influence, longevity, style, charisma—and, of course, personal bias. It’s the usual checklist whenever people start bickering over who truly belongs in the GOAT conversation. 🤷

Paul Sanders5 said:Man, that's a tough one. If you look at the whole package—military conquests, how they actually ruled, their overall legacy—there's really only one answer: Napoleon.

If we're strictly talking pure military genius, though? It's easy. Alexander the Great. Nobody even comes close to him.

Me? I've always had a soft spot for Isabella.😉


Why is he so incredibly certain about Napoleon? 🤔

What’s your take on the leadership styles of those ancient Persian rulers?
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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joined Oct 2020
#17407 ·
Amanda Evans2 said:Shaban Shaulic and everyone else...

With hair or without?
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
348 messages
joined Sep 2003
#17408 ·
Charles Roberts33 said:Since we’ve already started the flood of polls... which historical leader would you consider the GOAT? Who do you respect the most? 🤔

Personally, I find myself leaning toward Alexander II. 😉


Otto von Bismarck is definitely the GOAT. Dude won every single war he fought—totally nailed everything he wanted for the empire.
urbanhawk17 urbanhawk17 Regular
575 messages
joined Mar 2020
#17409 ·
https://www.facebook.com/djilasdraga...9903681613528/

I guess Milovan Djilas has finally lost his mind.
steelharbor9 steelharbor9 Active Member
198 messages
joined Jul 2012
#17410 ·
Charles Roberts33 said:Trophies, influence, longevity, style, charisma—and, of course, personal bias. It’s the usual checklist whenever people start bickering over who truly belongs in the GOAT conversation. 🤷

Why is he so incredibly certain about Napoleon? 🤔

What’s your take on the leadership styles of those ancient Persian rulers?

Nader Shah. 🙏 He’s just so powerful that people call him "Napoleon Persia," even though he was actually about a hundred years older than Napoleon himself. 🤣

Managing to hold onto that kind of dominance with such a rough crew from the Afsharid era... I mean, he's a total MVP, I guess! 🙏
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#17411 ·
Charles Roberts33 said:Trophies, influence, longevity, style, charisma—and, of course, personal bias. It’s the usual checklist whenever people start bickering over who truly belongs in the GOAT conversation. 🤷

Why is he so incredibly certain about Napoleon? 🤔

What’s your take on the leadership styles of those ancient Persian rulers?

He basically swept through all of Europe. Even when other countries teamed up, they had the advantage in almost everything, but it didn't save them. Plus, look at how he reorganized the state—he started with France and then that whole system just spilled over into everywhere else.

Ace was obsessed with conquering stuff. He had these massive plans for restructuring the government—kind of hazy and vague if you ask me—but he wasn't even that worried about the details. His main headspace was just conquering the known world. If he’d actually made the call, he probably would've made it all the way to China. Maybe we wouldn't be dealing with all this chaos today.
Anthony Wright30 Anthony Wright30 Active Member
189 messages
joined Oct 2017
#17412 ·
Carol Lewis said:Keeping it local, I guess? I mean, Franz Ferdinand would have been a much bigger deal, but history just happened the way it did, you know...

To be honest, I only mentioned him as a bit of a joke; I don't actually know much about his life, I guess.🤷😁

steelharbor9 said:It’s honestly tough to pick a single GOAT, but this guy definitely had the most legendary final words ever. 🙏 🙏

He is remembered for his ironic last words: "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance."


As for that one, I am afraid I haven't the slightest clue.🙏
William Gomez5 William Gomez5 Active Member
233 messages
joined May 2018
#17413 ·
steelharbor9 said:It’s honestly tough to pick a single GOAT, but this guy definitely had the most legendary final words ever. 🙏 🙏

He is remembered for his ironic last words: "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance."

man, honestly, French Fries is #1
Anthony Wright30 Anthony Wright30 Active Member
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joined Oct 2017
#17414 ·
urbanhawk17 said:https://www.facebook.com/djilasdraga...9903681613528/

I guess Milovan Djilas has finally lost his mind.


🙏
steelharbor9 steelharbor9 Active Member
198 messages
joined Jul 2012
#17415 ·
William Gomez5 said:man, honestly, French Fries is #1

We're talking about military leaders, or at least people connected to them🤷

But yeah, totally top tier🤣

For the uninitiated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_French_(murderer).

God, this damn subreddit... every single time I write a post about someone, I get this little wave of anxiety wondering if they've already been picked so I can mention them🤣 🤣
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
222 messages
joined Oct 2008
#17416 ·
Saladin was actually pretty alright too...
William Gomez5 William Gomez5 Active Member
233 messages
joined May 2018
#17417 ·
steelharbor9 said:We're talking about military leaders, or at least people connected to them🤷

But yeah, totally top tier🤣

For the uninitiated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_French_(murderer).

God, this damn subreddit... every single time I write a post about someone, I get this little wave of anxiety wondering if they've already been picked so I can mention them🤣 🤣

My bad, misread that

If we're strictly sticking to military leaders, then Sedgwick is #1
urbanhawk17 urbanhawk17 Regular
575 messages
joined Mar 2020
#17418 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:He basically swept through all of Europe. Even when other countries teamed up, they had the advantage in almost everything, but it didn't save them. Plus, look at how he reorganized the state—he started with France and then that whole system just spilled over into everywhere else.

Ace was obsessed with conquering stuff. He had these massive plans for restructuring the government—kind of hazy and vague if you ask me—but he wasn't even that worried about the details. His main headspace was just conquering the known world. If he’d actually made the call, he probably would've made it all the way to China. Maybe we wouldn't be dealing with all this chaos today.

The pandemic really got to him.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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joined Oct 2012
#17419 ·
restlesssurfer97 said:GQ has to frame things this way because he knows the truth about that little mini-dictator is going to come out pretty soon anyway, so he’s basically just setting himself up to say he hasn't changed his mind once the dust settles and he can claim he stood his ground the whole time.

😂

And honestly, we’re already miles ahead of them in the grand scheme of things.

A royal Goat... hmm... what about Presbyter John? In the glorious Middle Ages, nobody could even touch him, let alone his kingdom, which was easily the greatest of them all.☕
Amanda Evans2 Amanda Evans2 Veteran
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joined Nov 2014
#17420 ·
Elizabeth Mendoza said:With hair or without?

In every single variation
He just retreated too early, acting like a complete coward. And honestly, that’s exactly what all the other great leaders ended up doing...

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