Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

The economy has already endured far more aggressive measures than just sitting idle for two months.
Think about World War II. It dragged on for six years—a massive blow to any nation's financial stability—yet twenty or thirty years later, those countries emerged economically stronger than they had ever been. Sadly, tens of millions of lives lost can't be brought back to witness that recovery.
We are looking at a similar trajectory here.
Long before this current virus, there were other epidemics that wiped out a third of the population. Is it really irrational to prepare for the worst? Taking precautions isn't a panic response; it's simply common sense.

I’ve been doing some quick mental math, though I might have botched the numbers—it’s late, and I’m just typing this from bed before turning in.
If we assume a mortality rate of 0.2% and there have been 83 deaths from this virus, that implies roughly 40,000 infections. Yet, the official count shows just over 2,000 cases.
The discrepancy is massive.
That would mean the actual number of infected people is twenty times higher than what the government is reporting.

Matthew Young35 said:Neither. It’s just my own uneducated estimate.

Look, if the US has a population of roughly 330 million, and we assume the skeptics are wrong about how much the virus actually spreads—meaning a huge chunk of people would have been infected if we hadn't implemented lockdowns—the numbers change quickly.
Even if you take a tiny 0.2 percent of 330 million, you're looking at 660,000 people.
Now, factor in some margin for error. Since that 0.2 percent figure is based on such a small sample size, it wouldn't be a stretch to see death tolls climb significantly higher over a couple of months.

I get why people are skeptical; there are too many "ifs" involved here. But if we're playing that game, shouldn't I be allowed to question that 0.2% figure as well?

So, according to your logic, absolutely everyone would have been infected? That seems to ignore the reality of cases like Sweden, which, even with their relatively minimal interventions, saw roughly 3,000 deaths per 10 million citizens—though even those numbers remain a subject of debate.

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Matthew Young35 said:The economy has already endured far more aggressive measures than just sitting idle for two months.
Think about World War II. It dragged on for six years—a massive blow to any nation's financial stability—yet twenty or thirty years later, those countries emerged economically stronger than they had ever been. Sadly, tens of millions of lives lost can't be brought back to witness that recovery.
We are looking at a similar trajectory here.
Long before this current virus, there were other epidemics that wiped out a third of the population. Is it really irrational to prepare for the worst? Taking precautions isn't a panic response; it's simply common sense.

Honestly though, I think it is a total panic reaction, and a late one at that.
Just look at how Asia handled the crisis—specifically the areas east of India—and then compare that to how Europe and the USA dealt with it.

Hold on. Just take a minute to actually think about it.

Isn't this just your textbook example of a panicked, delayed response?

brightpilot6 said:If things truly turn out this way for us here, we might as well just offer our thanks to the universe, the stars, or whatever higher power is listening...

It honestly feels like the heavens heard a prayer coming straight out of some small town in the Midwest.

brightpilot6 said:Anything would be an improvement over that tedious Space Odyssey,

but that’s why Interstellar wins out. 🙏

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restlesssurfer97 said:MJ wasn't even a fan of him. Isaiah.

I watched six episodes last night. He was wearing glasses while being questioned about gambling. I suppose gambling is just his hobby. 🤣

I don't have an issue with gambling, because if I did, I'd be sitting here homeless and my wife would've walked out on me ages ago, but clearly, I'm doing just fine.

I guess 2001: A Space Odyssey feels so much better when you actually understand the context, which seems to be a struggle for people these days. It was filmed before the moon landing, and there was a book being written alongside it as a parallel. If you watch the movie and read the book while keeping that era in mind, it’s incomparable to something like Interstellar. They aren't even in the same category; I wonder if they're even playing the same sport.

AJ versus Emđej.

Honestly, it sounds like some low-budget rap battle you'd see on YouTube at 3 AM.

brightpilot6 said:Anything would be an improvement over that tedious Space Odyssey,

but that’s why Interstellar wins out. 🙏

Haven't seen this one yet.

Though maybe The Martian 🙏🙏

If you're looking for bad space movies like Gravity, honestly, if you missed Ad Astra, just let it go.

It might be the worst movie of 2019, maybe even on its own, but man, especially considering all that hype 🙏

Even Zvonimir Maycug wouldn't be caught dead with a script this bad—it was just a total disaster 🙏

When did the virus actually hit the US? Krunoslav Capak explained how they’re planning to track it

"I don't think we really have the bandwidth to monitor that right now because our testing load is just too intense and we're short-staffed, but we'll definitely look into checking our flu samples down the road," said Krunoslav Capak, the director of Bechtel.

He keeps talking about "intensive testing," but when you look at the numbers for a population of roughly 330 million, we're sitting at 39th out of 46 countries in Europe regarding tests per million people. 🤦

Honestly, I'm pretty terrified about a second wave coming, mostly because when you have "experts" like this running the show, things aren't looking great for us.
Not to mention how all this "expertise" is probably going to pivot toward election campaigning instead of actually preparing for the next surge.

We basically bought ourselves some time through quarantine, but I can't help but wonder what we actually bought it for if we're still this unprepared.

steelharbor9 said:If you're looking for bad space movies like Gravity, honestly, if you missed Ad Astra, just let it go.

It might be the worst movie of 2019, maybe even on its own, but man, especially considering all that hype 🙏

Even Zvonimir Maycug wouldn't be caught dead with a script this bad—it was just a total disaster 🙏

So, what you're saying is that SpaceX is to space movies what Fury was to WW2?

I don't want to downplay what makes a film truly great in this day and age, especially when people just sit there comparing them based on which one is more entertaining or whatever. By today's standards, I guess Odyssey might seem a bit slow to most folks. But if you're willing to dig a little deeper, there's so much more substance to find. I mean, I have to say, a masterpiece crafted by Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke probably carries a bit more weight than something written by the Nolan brothers.

Zora 🙏

I think you might’ve accidentally slipped into sarcasm territory there, man. Like a total double fault.

The Odyssey feels like this pseudo-intellectual, overly polished attempt at grandeur. It reminds me of one of those urinals in a modern art museum that everyone stands around admiring, even though it was probably just left bolted to the gallery wall by mistake ☕

Can I actually go back to the whole corona thing?

brightpilot6 said:The Odyssey feels like this pseudo-intellectual, overly polished attempt at grandeur. It reminds me of one of those urinals in a modern art museum that everyone stands around admiring, even though it was probably just left bolted to the gallery wall by mistake ☕

So you're saying it reminds you of contemporary art museums? ☕