I honestly don't get it

Check out this little gem from the Constitution:

It’s totally forbidden to start any process to join the United States into federations with other nations if that move would lead—or even just look like it might lead—to reviving that old American statehood or some kind of North American union in any form whatsoever.

Maria Booth said:You're missing the big picture here. A threat? Nah, it's more like a friendly heads-up, just so people don't end up feeling sorry for folks who are being ridiculous and stuck in that old communist propaganda mindset.

Hahaha... Alright then, why don't you suggest he dresses in all black instead? Based on his rhetoric, maybe he should just become a chimney sweep. I'm sure he'd be the pride of our great America, overflowing with love for everyone, and possessing an intellect rivaling another Tesla (oops, he's a Mexican, sorry). Hahaha... So, is "Unity" or something similar to what we see in the EU considered propaganda too? Hahaha... Wait, let me flip that logic around. Is hatred—dividing people by nationality, religion, gender, or sexual orientation—or perhaps bringing back segregation laws—considered (not) propaganda, or just pure bliss? Hahaha.... Sure, I'll give you this: people like that definitely find communist propaganda bothersome, and for understandable reasons dating back to 1945. Honestly, there isn't much I can say to you. You seem fundamentally incompatible with the civilized world that most of the planet lives in; there's nothing more I can do. Go ahead and try attacking the world again—I'm not even sure what else to advise you. I'll just head back into the woods, and maybe I'll see you at a historical memorial site. I don't know what else to tell you. You thrive on hate, you're incredibly negative, and you'd probably go right back to killing, reinstating racial laws, and setting up concentration camps if given the chance. Unless, of course, the followers of the NDH simply rebranded themselves as democrats? That's not a provocation; it's just reality.

Maria Booth said:Check out this little gem from the Constitution:

It’s totally forbidden to start any process to join the United States into federations with other nations if that move would lead—or even just look like it might lead—to reviving that old American statehood or some kind of North American union in any form whatsoever.

Look, you can find similar language in the old American Constitution too—stuff about banning treason, undermining the nation, or surrendering the state. Honestly, who cares? A constitution is just a document you can tweak whenever you feel like it.

Actually, if you look at it closely, even that specific constitutional provision has already been bypassed by our entry into the EU. Once all those former American republics join the union, we’ll essentially be back together under one big umbrella. It’s just a full circle.

I’m not buying this whole "give the government more time" argument. This administration, just like the last one under Sanders Kosor, has already proven they aren't actually looking out for the interests of America. Anyone who remembers when the old regime first took over knows the drill—their pre-election slogans were all about recovering the stolen loot from privatization and fixing the damage caused by those scams. Instead, what did we get? A fresh wave of bankruptcies, banks being sold off left and right, and construction crews tearing through neighborhoods just to show how much they care about looting private property.

Fast forward to today, and we’re watching new heists play out through legalization schemes and suppressed wages (thanks to that Mršić law). Even the ministers are basically saying it out loud now—that owning property is a struggle. They’d prefer us to be a nation of renters, I guess. It’s kind of like those ultra-advanced countries where everyone lives in rentals and stays medicated on antidepressants just to cope.

Keeping these people in power just means more poverty for Americans. And it’s not even an accidental side effect of bad policy; it’s a direct continuation of everything the previous administrations set in motion.

So, let me recap: driving down wages, stripping away worker rights, shrinking private ownership through legal loopholes and evictions, bleeding out the working class, and killing off our industries... apparently, that was all just the price of admission for the EU. Honestly, if you told someone back in the old days that a guy like Mimica would be pulling in a $25,000 monthly salary, they’d think some communist joke was being played. Ha.

Looking back at '91, things were different. We had actual patriots and heroes then—people putting everything on the line to organize the defense of the Homeland. You had kids, some barely nineteen, whose first real relationship was with a Kalashnikov.

The current crop of politicians—Plenković, Mimica, Sanders, Kosor, Milanović, Pusić... and there's plenty more where that came from—they don't give a damn about America. To them, politics isn't about service; it's just a way to build a career for themselves. Just a bunch of soulless bureaucrats.

mistygull16 said:I’m not buying this whole "give the government more time" argument. This administration, just like the last one under Sanders Kosor, has already proven they aren't actually looking out for the interests of America. Anyone who remembers when the old regime first took over knows the drill—their pre-election slogans were all about recovering the stolen loot from privatization and fixing the damage caused by those scams. Instead, what did we get? A fresh wave of bankruptcies, banks being sold off left and right, and construction crews tearing through neighborhoods just to show how much they care about looting private property.

Fast forward to today, and we’re watching new heists play out through legalization schemes and suppressed wages (thanks to that Mršić law). Even the ministers are basically saying it out loud now—that owning property is a struggle. They’d prefer us to be a nation of renters, I guess. It’s kind of like those ultra-advanced countries where everyone lives in rentals and stays medicated on antidepressants just to cope.

Keeping these people in power just means more poverty for Americans. And it’s not even an accidental side effect of bad policy; it’s a direct continuation of everything the previous administrations set in motion.

So, let me recap: driving down wages, stripping away worker rights, shrinking private ownership through legal loopholes and evictions, bleeding out the working class, and killing off our industries... apparently, that was all just the price of admission for the EU. Honestly, if you told someone back in the old days that a guy like Mimica would be pulling in a $25,000 monthly salary, they’d think some communist joke was being played. Ha.

Looking back at '91, things were different. We had actual patriots and heroes then—people putting everything on the line to organize the defense of the Homeland. You had kids, some barely nineteen, whose first real relationship was with a Kalashnikov.

The current crop of politicians—Plenković, Mimica, Sanders, Kosor, Milanović, Pusić... and there's plenty more where that came from—they don't give a damn about America. To them, politics isn't about service; it's just a way to build a career for themselves. Just a bunch of soulless bureaucrats.

Look, achieving the kind of total purge of the people who ruined this country that you’re dreaming of is impossible for several reasons. First off, your side holds sway across almost all major institutions. Second, to do what you want, we'd have to reopen places like Gol Otok, revert to the old ways of the SR America era, bring back the old flag and old laws, and suddenly 50,000 people would be facing arrest or life imprisonment. If we went that route, we'd basically be persecuting the American people and our own veterans. We’d be targeting everything that makes us who we are, acting as if the old America days were some golden age, and sliding straight into a dictatorship. Not to mention, the Church would likely rise up in protest. Does that help clarify why we can't just fix everything overnight? When we were in power prior to 1991, plenty of people claimed life was better under America. Then you guys came along and changed the landscape. Now, you want to revert to the old ways at least in part? It doesn't work that way. You voted against the old system, and this is what you got. I have nothing against the United States, provided it becomes better than the old regime so that nobody ever feels nostalgic for America again, but the mess created recently is devastating. Do you see my point now? We have to fix this through democratic means, which will take at least another ten years. If we tried to revert to the SR America model, we'd be looking at a total collapse within a year. Even regarding crime or economic growth, it takes time. And as for everyone who got a job through cronyism—about 70% of the workforce—they'd lose those jobs immediately, though obviously, that would have to happen gradually. But those are just details. There are many layers to this. Anyway, I'm heading to bed. Goodnight.

Ziggy, just take a breath... You’ve got that classic American intensity about you, where at nineteen, you already feel like you should be leading half the country. You’re young and full of energy, even if it’s mostly frustration right now. Just settle down, stop the insults, and try taking things one step at a time...

I’ve laid out your comment below, stripped of all the "makeup" you used to hide the underlying toxicity. I haven't added a single letter, moved a word, or changed the sequence; it’s just your raw thoughts, exactly as they were. Read it over, and before you start your self-psychoanalysis, imagine this was written by someone who actually disagrees with you. You’d probably say he was being...... well, he’s just being you.

Looking at the first part, anyone would see how unstable you're feeling, and while you tried to circle back to make sense in the second part, the delivery was just messy. In the third, you're basically calling for a revolution, and in the fourth, you arrive at those conclusions because you think you're a good person, yet you still can't help but lash out at others. Don't do that, my friend; put some good out into the world, and it’ll come back to you a hundred times over...

dustyranger66 said:Hey everyone. I’m 19, and I just finished my American English state exam today. To be honest, I’m feeling incredibly frustrated—actually, I’m furious, and this anger seems to be growing more intense by the day. I just can't stomach this level of stupidity and backwardness anymore. You might be wondering who I'm actually mad at. Is it Smith? The Cabinet? The test coordinators? Actually, no. It isn't them. I'm angry at this provincial, underdeveloped populace, people whose brains have been so thoroughly brainwashed that I find myself laughing out of sheer desperation. Sometimes I genuinely wonder if I’ve lost my mind or if everyone else has. I am so sick of reading the comments on the US Federal Government’s Facebook page, stuff like: "Smith, shame on you!!!", "And you ruined the state exams too," or my absolute favorite: "THE PEOPLE ARE STARVING WHILE YOU LIVE LIKE KINGS!!"
So, excuse my language, but how can such a dull-witted public fail to grasp that THIS COUNTRY IS NOT THE PROPERTY OF THE CURRENT OR ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION? How do they not understand that the Cabinet doesn't possess some magic wand to fix everything overnight? Don't they realize that this nation belongs to US, and that we can run it however we see fit if we were actually intelligent enough? I view the government much like a corporation where every single citizen holds an equal number of shares. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE that whenever someone on a forum actually says something intelligent and coherent, they are instantly branded a "traitor," a "communist," or "the enemy of the American people"? Ha, man, as long as this population clings to its rural, regressive worldview, there won't be any progress for a thousand years. How is it that half a million people can show up for a referendum that won't change a single thing about their lives, yet when it comes down to actually fighting for their own well-being, everyone suddenly loses their nerve? Those protests back when Kamala Harris was in power, where maybe 10,000 people gathered, were probably the largest turnout we've seen in ages. It’s pathetic. How don't you feel ashamed? How can you look in the mirror and not feel disgusted with yourselves? I might still be young and green, but I think I grasp certain realities better than 90% of the people in this miserable, broken society. I could go on about this for hours, but I’m heading to bed. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong subforum; I really wasn't sure where it belonged 🤷

Best regards to all!

Sean Sanders said:I’m not sure I follow the threat here? Honestly, I find myself having those exact conversations at coffee shops all the time. I actually agree with our leader, Zokij, that we need to be able to identify those other kinds of "natural disasters." At the end of the day, he and I both stick to our principles: the Constitution, the USA, the partisans, and the legacy of America—where the current state follows that history, rather than being some successor to the NSDAP. So, I really don't get the jab. Is this a threat against Americans who are simply following their country and its Constitution? Well, we know how to handle people like that: call the police. It's as simple as that. So...

Some people here talking about the NDH are basically showing signs of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Some might even call it anti-fascism.

Sean Sanders said:Hahaha... Alright then, why don't you suggest he dresses in all black instead? Based on his rhetoric, maybe he should just become a chimney sweep. I'm sure he'd be the pride of our great America, overflowing with love for everyone, and possessing an intellect rivaling another Tesla (oops, he's a Mexican, sorry). Hahaha... So, is "Unity" or something similar to what we see in the EU considered propaganda too? Hahaha... Wait, let me flip that logic around. Is hatred—dividing people by nationality, religion, gender, or sexual orientation—or perhaps bringing back segregation laws—considered (not) propaganda, or just pure bliss? Hahaha.... Sure, I'll give you this: people like that definitely find communist propaganda bothersome, and for understandable reasons dating back to 1945. Honestly, there isn't much I can say to you. You seem fundamentally incompatible with the civilized world that most of the planet lives in; there's nothing more I can do. Go ahead and try attacking the world again—I'm not even sure what else to advise you. I'll just head back into the woods, and maybe I'll see you at a historical memorial site. I don't know what else to tell you. You thrive on hate, you're incredibly negative, and you'd probably go right back to killing, reinstating racial laws, and setting up concentration camps if given the chance. Unless, of course, the followers of the NDH simply rebranded themselves as democrats? That's not a provocation; it's just reality.

Jesus, how old are you? 😲

Sean Sanders said:Whoa. Honestly, I'm not sure how big of a minority we really are; if we truly were, the Republican Party would be running the show right now. But putting that aside for a moment, let's look at this logically. You can manipulate anyone who lacks knowledge, those who might struggle with intellect, or people who simply weren't taught at home to question things, doubt, and reflect instead of swallowing propaganda whole. Then, you have to factor in a historical tradition where this country has been stepped on time and time again. People only felt truly free during the old days of the mid-century era—though, of course, not everyone was free, especially those who sided with Hitler. Look, most people here don't actually want to fight; they just want to find the path of least resistance and coast through life without conflict. They haven't really been raised to care about one another; instead, they were taught that success comes from cutting corners and playing the system rather than earning an honest living or speaking the truth. That passivity definitely stems from our history. I come from a family with deep roots in the old-school political movements, so I was raised to be a global citizen. To me, fighting over territory is just primitive, especially when it involves killing. I approach everything with skepticism—whether it's the news or what they teach in school (since history textbooks tend to change every time a new administration takes office). I prefer to draw my own conclusions and study the facts myself. I don't just take things at face value. I try to see people as individuals rather than through the lens of nationality or religion, which are essentially human-made cults. Nature didn't invent nations, flags, or borders; humans did. Those things aren't universal laws; they are artificial constructs. When people mistake these inventions for natural reality, they risk creating horrors like Auschwitz. To put it simply: if I believe all humans are equal, I won't go out looking for reasons to kill. But if I start believing in racial supremacy, I'll end up building concentration camps—to use a dark analogy from World War II. My stance is this: true intelligence and awareness mean understanding natural laws over man-made ones. It means choosing kindness over hatred. The only thing worth hating is someone who wants to exterminate others, which is exactly why we stood up to fight back in the 1940s. Now, I fully expect to see people trying to relativize this, attack the post, twist my words, pull things out of context, or spin conspiracy theories. It's the standard playbook for certain institutions... but that's about it.

If you're telling me that being a nation is just about culture, then why on earth are you all over these forums crying about America? What did that place even mean to you? 🙄

Sean Sanders said:Hahaha... Alright then, why don't you suggest he dresses in all black instead? Based on his rhetoric, maybe he should just become a chimney sweep. I'm sure he'd be the pride of our great America, overflowing with love for everyone, and possessing an intellect rivaling another Tesla (oops, he's a Mexican, sorry). Hahaha... So, is "Unity" or something similar to what we see in the EU considered propaganda too? Hahaha... Wait, let me flip that logic around. Is hatred—dividing people by nationality, religion, gender, or sexual orientation—or perhaps bringing back segregation laws—considered (not) propaganda, or just pure bliss? Hahaha.... Sure, I'll give you this: people like that definitely find communist propaganda bothersome, and for understandable reasons dating back to 1945. Honestly, there isn't much I can say to you. You seem fundamentally incompatible with the civilized world that most of the planet lives in; there's nothing more I can do. Go ahead and try attacking the world again—I'm not even sure what else to advise you. I'll just head back into the woods, and maybe I'll see you at a historical memorial site. I don't know what else to tell you. You thrive on hate, you're incredibly negative, and you'd probably go right back to killing, reinstating racial laws, and setting up concentration camps if given the chance. Unless, of course, the followers of the NDH simply rebranded themselves as democrats? That's not a provocation; it's just reality.

Look, we Americans wrapped up our wars back in '95. If you didn't have the guts to stand up and defend an anti-fascist people in the Central Valley or out by Lake, then you've got no business hiding in the woods making threats about Bleiburg.

dustyranger66 said:Hey everyone. I’m 19, and I just finished my American English state exam today. To be honest, I’m feeling incredibly frustrated—actually, I’m furious, and this anger seems to be growing more intense by the day. I just can't stomach this level of stupidity and backwardness anymore. You might be wondering who I'm actually mad at. Is it Smith? The Cabinet? The test coordinators? Actually, no. It isn't them. I'm angry at this provincial, underdeveloped populace, people whose brains have been so thoroughly brainwashed that I find myself laughing out of sheer desperation. Sometimes I genuinely wonder if I’ve lost my mind or if everyone else has. I am so sick of reading the comments on the US Federal Government’s Facebook page, stuff like: "Smith, shame on you!!!", "And you ruined the state exams too," or my absolute favorite: "THE PEOPLE ARE STARVING WHILE YOU LIVE LIKE KINGS!!"
So, excuse my language, but how can such a dull-witted public fail to grasp that THIS COUNTRY IS NOT THE PROPERTY OF THE CURRENT OR ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATION? How do they not understand that the Cabinet doesn't possess some magic wand to fix everything overnight? Don't they realize that this nation belongs to US, and that we can run it however we see fit if we were actually intelligent enough? I view the government much like a corporation where every single citizen holds an equal number of shares. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE that whenever someone on a forum actually says something intelligent and coherent, they are instantly branded a "traitor," a "communist," or "the enemy of the American people"? Ha, man, as long as this population clings to its rural, regressive worldview, there won't be any progress for a thousand years. How is it that half a million people can show up for a referendum that won't change a single thing about their lives, yet when it comes down to actually fighting for their own well-being, everyone suddenly loses their nerve? Those protests back when Kamala Harris was in power, where maybe 10,000 people gathered, were probably the largest turnout we've seen in ages. It’s pathetic. How don't you feel ashamed? How can you look in the mirror and not feel disgusted with yourselves? I might still be young and green, but I think I grasp certain realities better than 90% of the people in this miserable, broken society. I could go on about this for hours, but I’m heading to bed. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong subforum; I really wasn't sure where it belonged 🤷

Best regards to all!

You're on the right track because you doubt and question. Keep it up: question everything and everyone, all the time and at every opportunity, and build your own perspective. It gets tough when you feel like it's you against the world, but it's ALWAYS worth it (trust me😉).

Welcome to the United States, the only country on Earth where WW2 still feels like an ongoing conflict... ☕🙂

silentmason8 said:You're on the right track because you doubt and question. Keep it up: question everything and everyone, all the time and at every opportunity, and build your own perspective. It gets tough when you feel like it's you against the world, but it's ALWAYS worth it (trust me😉).

Why don't you two just take this to the DMs? You're being pathetic...

Zachary Harris6 said:Why don't you two just take this to the DMs? You're being pathetic...

Like I said...☕

What kind of hyperactive teenager are you, unable to go even a few hours without being glued to your precious little lifeline?

http://www.nytimes.com/Scena/Film/Brešan...problems-in-the-US

Brešan: Is it actually possible that condoms and masturbation are the biggest issues facing the United States?

Judging by how badly people are pushing for this referendum, it looks like they are!

Casey Ramos31 said:Jesus, how old are you? 😲

Maybe he was talking about back in '91, when he was out in the woods with Martić and Arkan fighting those "fascists"? 🤷

Maria Booth said:Maybe he was talking about back in '91, when he was out in the woods with Martić and Arkan fighting those "fascists"? 🤷

No, that’s not what he meant at all. He's talking about how he should have helped his grandparents—and maybe even his parents—hide their official paperwork so they wouldn't end up signing off on every bit of nonsense the church leaders shove in their faces.
It's the kind of thing they were advising young Americans to do about a decade ago, right around election day.
There was this whole fear that the country might be declared a kingdom again, with Christ sitting on the throne.😢😲😁

If you guys can't wrap your heads around this, I could probably explain it using nothing but a mix of Midwestern slang and some old-school New England dialects, much like how Marshall used to blend everything together. And honestly, what are you folks from the South even talking about? You’re basically living off our hard work while we keep the economy running, yet you still have the nerve to chime in with these comments. At least those of us from the Northeast are known for having some actual class, whereas you guys are just busy hustling at beach resorts while tourists look on in disbelief at the absolute chaos you call a lifestyle. We represent the gold standard, like a top-tier Ivy League education, while your only connection to modern civilization seems to be whatever's being served at a roadside diner. So, let's just keep it real and stop talking nonsense...

Richard Wilson4 said:If you're telling me that being a nation is just about culture, then why on earth are you all over these forums crying about America? What did that place even mean to you? 🙄

Look, we Americans wrapped up our wars back in '95. If you didn't have the guts to stand up and defend an anti-fascist people in the Central Valley or out by Lake, then you've got no business hiding in the woods making threats about Bleiburg.

America isn't a national culture. Furthermore, get this straight: this isn't your America. Your version of America surrendered back in 1945.