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Directors who totally missed the mark

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Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active MemberOP
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#41 ·
Sandra King86 said:But Flik is terrible.
Carpenter rules!!!!πŸ‘
I mean, what more do you want from a guy?

Honestly, I don't even remember Verhoeven ever putting together two great movies... calling him "good then bad" feels like a stretch.
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So, when was the last time you actually enjoyed a Carpenter flick? :-)
northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
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#42 ·
Jose Miller17 said:I don't recall Verhoeven ever actually stitching together two great filmsβ€”it's hard to say he was even good to begin with before he lost his way...

Spot on. It's just a perpetual sine wave of directorial inspiration.β€”nothing more.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#43 ·
crimsonmoose3 said:What’s actually wrong with the movie? I had a decent enough time, even if it was incredibly bland.

The reason I found it so remarkably lukewarm is that instead of an actual script, the film relies entirely on horror clichΓ©s about mad scientists that have been stale since the fifties. It wouldn't be so offensive if a studio like Warner Bros. played with those tropes ironicallyβ€”the way they did in *Kill Bill* or *Young Frankenstein*β€”but here, they are dead serious:

"Hmm, who should we use to test this invisibility serum? I know! Let's pick the most unhinged individual in existence and give him the potion. Surely he won't abuse his new condition for petty acts of cruelty."

"Look, an invisible guy is chasing us down the hallway at full speed. What's our plan?
-Let's split up!"

"- Boom! I got the invisible man! I smacked him in the head with my wallet and now he's definitely dead! I am just so certain I finished him off that there's no need to swing wildly at the empty air another ten times just to be sure. In fact, I'm so confident he's gone that I'll just drop my wallet right next to him (since I clearly don't need it anymore) and walk away with my back turned."

Usually, when someone tries to mess with my head, I don't expect to have to pay twenty dollars for a movie ticket just to endure it.
Nancy Kim2 Nancy Kim2 Member
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#44 ·
Come on now, you guys are really tearing him apart here! πŸ˜‚ 🀣 πŸ˜‚

(I’m talking about that whole "in" crowd from the movieβ€”the ones who seem to spend all their time nitpicking and looking down on everyone else)
Mark Kelly19 Mark Kelly19 Newcomer
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#45 ·
Man, that was one incredibly meaty and well-argued post.πŸ˜•
Jose Chase2 Jose Chase2 Active Member
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#46 ·
Mark Kelly19 said:Really thorough and well-argued post.πŸ˜•

Yeahβ€”but they definitely hit the nail on the head... honestly, it’s like watching geeks argue over whether AMD or Intel is better.πŸ™„ πŸ™„
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active MemberOP
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#47 ·
Mark Kelly19 said:An incredibly deep and well-reasoned post.πŸ˜•

It’s still gnufi, though... this might actually be one of his better ones.😁 😁
Sandra King86 Sandra King86 Active Member
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#48 ·
Jose Miller17 said:so what's the last Carpenter flick you actually liked? :-)

I guess... feel good movie would be Vampires 🀣
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northerncrane4 northerncrane4 Regular
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#49 ·
Sandra King86 said:So, I guess "feel good movies" include Vampires 🀣

More like a "feel bored" movie.
Ethan Perez97 Ethan Perez97 Active Member
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#50 ·
Jose Chase2 said:Oh, give me a break already... Just thinking about it on a whimβ€”The Dark Knight and Sin City are both easily a hundred times better than that Spider-Man garbage...πŸ™‚

Sin City doesn't really count here, since I was specifically talking about superhero comic book movies...
Carol Jackson45 Carol Jackson45 Active Member
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#51 ·
Did anyone mention Wolfgang Peterson yet?

What about Danny Boyle?

Actually, just any director who made the move over to the States😁
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#52 ·
Sandra King86 said:🀣

http://www.transporter2movie.com/

You know, watching movies like this just makes me realize how much I've aged. Theoretically, there shouldn't be any reason for a film not to work for me: they have the fast cars, the sleek weapons, the high-end gadgets... yet somehow, the whole thing just feels incredibly hollow. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the spectacle, but even in an action flick, a compelling character or a coherent script wouldn't go amiss. I suppose that’s why people still gravitate toward classics like *Die Hard* or *Lethal Weapon*, while most of those endless waves of B-movies from the 80s and 90s are rightfully forgotten.

I sat through *The Transporter* once, though if I'm being honest, I can barely recall anything about it. There was some sort of car chase, a guy acting cool, and then someone shows up with a bazooka and πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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#53 ·
And what about John Woo? Think about his track record: Hard Boiled, The Killer, Face/Off...
Now he’s hit a new low with "Payback" and this announcement about making an X-Men film. I loved that animated series growing up, but who's actually going to care about that nowadays? πŸ˜• 😲
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#54 ·
crimsonmoose3 said:And then there's John Woo? Think about his track record: Hard Boiled, The Killer, Face/Off, Broken Arrow...
Now he’s hit a new low with "Payback" and that announcement about directing an X-Men movie. I was obsessed with those cartoons as a kid, but I suppose nobody cares about that sort of thing anymore. πŸ˜• 😲

It would be quite a surprise...

I am of the opinion that John Woo produced far superior work during his Hong Kong era, and frankly, even his peak Hollywood efforts pale in comparison. Though, one can never be entirely certain; despite having much of his catalog on DVD in my personal collection, those specific titles seem to be missing, leaving me unable to make a definitive judgment. 😒
Sandra King86 Sandra King86 Active Member
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#55 ·
casualotter21 said:You know, watching movies like this just makes me feel old. There’s basically no reason why I shouldn't like itβ€”nice cars, hot girls, cool guns... It's all there. But the movie itself feels kind of *mid*. I mean, I love all that stuff, but interesting characters and a smart script are never a bad thing, even in action flicks. I guess that's why people still rewatch Die Hard or Lethal Weapon while totally forgetting those whole waves of B-action movies from the 80s and 90s.

I watched The Transporter once and honestly... I don't remember much about it. Just some car chases and a guy acting all tough until someone shows up with a bazooka and πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

Hmm, you might be onto something there. πŸ‘
Average girls, an above-average guy (Jason Statham πŸ™‚)... looks like they actually made a solid action flick for the ladies. 🀣
Sandra King86 Sandra King86 Active Member
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#56 ·
Jose Miller17 said:🀣 Guess I'm the only one who hasn't seen The Transporter.
And honestly... looks like I'm gonna skip it too 😁😁

A guy uses a serving tray to deflect a rocket or a grenade... what even is that? πŸ€”
How can you not watch that? 😁 How many movies have you seen with a scene like that? Be real.
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active MemberOP
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#57 ·
Sandra King86 said:If someone uses a serving tray to deflect a rocket or a grenade, what does that even make them? πŸ€”
How can you skip this? 😁 How many movies have you seen with this exact scene? Be honest.

🀣....πŸ€”...I saw it once, but it wasn't a guy and there wasn't a tray involved.😁😁
quietdriver3 quietdriver3 Regular
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#58 ·
Sandra King86 said:A guy uses a serving tray to deflect a rocket or a grenade... I mean, what even is that? πŸ€”
How can you not notice stuff like that? 😁 Honestly, how many movies have you seen with a scene just like that? Just tell me.


😁 😁

So, Sandra King86 thinks... well, Transporter is basically just a remade version of "The Running Man." πŸ˜‰

Except, I guess, Wile E. Coyote is actually smarter than the characters in those movies. 😁 😁
redowl90 redowl90 Regular
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#59 ·
Is he the next Woody Allen?

How long has this crisis been going on now?
Jose Miller17 Jose Miller17 Active MemberOP
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#60 ·
redowl90 said:Woody Allen?
How long has his midlife crisis been going on now?

Nooooooooooo... you idiot. πŸ™‚ 😁😁 😒

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