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Cancer diagnosis - please help!

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urbantinker11 urbantinker11 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2005
#81 ·
wiredsailor7 said:Just one more thing—you aren't going to find some magic, one-size-fits-all answer out there. Your best bet is to find that middle ground where all the different opinions and pieces of advice meet.

I'm with you on that, 👍
wiredsailor7 wiredsailor7 Member
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joined Nov 2004
#82 ·
urbantinker11:
You've got a point, it can help, but don't act like that's the only reason he beat the disease. His athletic nutrition—specifically those nutritional supplements—played a massive role.

Are you just parroting the manufacturer's script? Is that some kind of slogan?
Who actually benefits here? The manufacturer uses the Armstrong chain for their own marketing, while people like you fall for it hook, line, and sinker.

urbantinker11:
Where most people mess up is waiting until the very LAST minute to try "home remedies" or dietary changes.

Who do you think you are, acting like some high-priced sponsor, arrogantly claiming you know better than everyone else when they're making life-or-death decisions regarding cancer?

Look, I'm telling you straight: take that bullshit somewhere else!
Go buy some airtime on the local TV station and spread your nonsense there.
urbantinker11 urbantinker11 Newcomer
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#83 ·
wiredsailor7 said:1) Are you just repeating manufacturers' talking points? Like some kind of corporate slogan?
Who actually stands to gain here? The manufacturer uses the Armstrong chain for their own marketing, while people like you just swallow it whole.

2) Who do you think you are, acting like some "sponsored influencer," arrogantly deciding where everyone else (in this case, cancer patients) is going wrong??

3) Look, I'm telling you simply: take this bullshit somewhere else!
Go buy an ad slot on a Local TV station and spread your nonsense there.

1) On the official website for the Armstrong chain, his sponsors are listed, including PowerBar as a nutritional company that produces dietary supplements.
I don't have any skin in their game, but the link between his diet, his willpower, and his victory over illness is pretty damn obvious. If you don't want to believe it, fine—that's your prerogative. I've heard his story several times, and the fact that nutrition played a role in his fight against sickness isn't something you can just wish away, regardless of what you think about it. 😉
You seem incapable of grasping how much Armstrong might appreciate a sponsor who helped him through that part of his battle (via nutrition), so you resort to phrases like "using it for marketing." It’s honestly a bit dense, and frankly, it doesn't matter who benefits more in the end—is it Armstrong, who is still here, or the people successfully selling things to folks like you? 😉

2) "Arrogantly deciding..." ????

The only person making decisions here is the individual actually facing the situation. Our various opinions are just meant to help them reach their OWN conclusion. For that reason, I don't feel "arrogant" for speaking my mind, even if I have to stand by it despite the provocations and insinuations you're throwing around.

I was merely echoing sentiments that have already been voiced, and I agree with them (so quit whining). I went through a similar situation with my father; because of a doctor's error—or maybe just negligence—he ended up in a very similar spot. By the time the "natural remedy" crowd got involved, it was too late, but back then I was just a kid and didn't process things with the perspective I have today. 🙂
I'm telling you, he would be alive today if I had known then what I know now. Someone can agree with my view or they can not, but I'm not going to let anyone talk down to me or dismiss what I'm saying, alright?

To wrap this up, I actually found myself agreeing with your sentence: "Just one more thing: you won't find a universal solution; find the golden mean among all opinions and advice." Because I truly believe that too (and not just to suck up to YOU), though it seems like YOU haven't quite grasped the weight of the words you wrote. Maybe try reading them again. 😉 😁

3) :2up:
urbantinker11 urbantinker11 Newcomer
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#84 ·
urbantinker11 said:Look, I don't have any skin in this game personally, but the connection between his diet, his willpower, and actually beating the disease is pretty glaringly obvious. If you aren't buying it, hey, that's your prerogative. I've heard his story firsthand a few times now, and you can't just argue away the fact that his nutrition played a role in his recovery, regardless of what you might think about the whole thing. 😉

As a matter of fact, I knew that Louis Armstrong actually started a foundation to help people fight cancer, and if you look through their testimonials, you can clearly see the link between what people ate and how they healed.

Alecia Hardwick

"...You eat the right foods and you just keep your spirits up. During chemo, you should eat a lot of green vegetables; a lot of green vegetables. They tell you to eat fruit, but I really wasn’t a fruit eater. I would supplement it with fruit juices: orange juice, apple juice, peach juice, and it really kept me going. Drink plenty of water....

etc.

ps: Sarah Cruz2, you might actually find some better advice on these official sites than what we're tossing around here on the forum; sometimes you just have to put in the legwork to find the best solutions. 🙂
urbantinker11 urbantinker11 Newcomer
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#85 ·
If you're curious about what the actual science has to say regarding all this, you can check out the details here.

👋
Nancy Green5 Nancy Green5 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2008
#86 ·
Sarah Cruz2.
Of course giving advice is tricky, but some things are just common sense. When you're dealing with colon issues, what you eat and how you eat it is everything. It’s only the people who skim the surface—those who rationalize everything because they can't live without their "comfort food"—who claim diet doesn't matter for colon health.
I know exactly what I'm talking about because I've been there. Honestly, I never could have imagined how brutal it is to walk away from certain foods and the habits tied to them. These are things people do for decades; they become part of your DNA. When the day comes where you have to quit something you've eaten your entire life, it becomes a massive uphill battle. Very few people actually win that fight.
I know, we're surrounded by vegetarians, vegans, and macrobiotic enthusiasts at every turn. But I'm almost certain very few actually live out what they claim to believe. It's just human nature, isn't it?
I truly hope your sister finds the strength and wisdom to win this fight. And she *can* win it. I recommend strict macrobiotics. Just remember, you don't fix everything in a few days. The illness won't vanish overnight. But in a few days, she will definitely feel some relief. That's what will give her the fuel to keep going. Don't listen to all the noise from people around you. Everyone thinks they're an expert these days. We are too diverse for one-size-fits-all solutions, so your sister needs to develop her own strategy and find her path to victory. She needs to listen to her gut, trust her instincts, and think logically with a healthy dose of optimism. Like someone who isn't afraid—someone certain of the win.
Avoid spices, fats, and...

Cut out all animal products entirely! Why? Because that's what animals are bred to eat.

For example:
Humans don't need cow's milk; that stuff is designed for calves. When a calf is born, it needs that milk to survive, to build bone density and muscle so it can graze with its mother in a few days. Once it's strong enough, the calf doesn't need that milk anymore. The mother instinctively pushes it away. That's just how nature works. THE LOGIC IS RIGHT THERE IN THAT EXAMPLE.
It's only humans who thought they could rise above natural laws. Only humans think they're "smarter" than nature. You see that human "intelligence" everywhere.

Have her try eating nothing but grains for one week. Mostly brown rice and maybe some seaweed. Soak kombu in cold water. Grind the rice using an old-school manual coffee grinder. Mix it and cook it for 20 minutes in the water used to soak the seaweed. She’ll have to ignore the taste for a while. Adjust the consistency so it passes through the digestive tract without pain. Tell her to stay away from honey. Grains provide everything a human needs. She should try to stick to grains for as long as possible.
SHE WON'T DROP DEAD IF SHE HAS A LITTLE MEAT OR COFFEE, BUT SHE SHOULDN'T DO IT. HER BODY WILL THANK HER, AND THE ULTIMATE REWARD WILL BE RECOVERY.
Recovery! Why even doubt it? Do winners really sit around doubting their own victory? She just needs to be persistent and consistent at the start. Seeing progress will give her the courage to push forward. Don't let others brainwash you with endless unsolicited advice. She absolutely needs to get some books on macrobiotics and use logic, just like most "other inhabitants of nature" (and no, I'm not talking about humans).
OF COURSE, DON'T OVERTHINK THE ILLNESS (easy to say, right?). It'll be much easier to stay upbeat when she starts seeing real progress. A lot of what's written in macrobiotic literature was written by people who wouldn't know your sister's symptoms if they hit them in the face. So, for starters, let her rely mainly on grains. That worked for me. And tell her not to forget to listen to her "inner voice." That way, she won't go wrong. She shouldn't stop taking her medications abruptly, but let that be a long-term goal. The fewer medications (especially corticosteroids), the better.
I'm rooting for her.
Thomas Lewis9 Thomas Lewis9 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2008
#87 ·
I feel like I've been hitting a brick wall for days now. Ever since I found out my dad was hit by that terrible disease called cancer, and ever since the doctors decided against surgery in favor of going straight to chemo, I've felt completely paralyzed. He means everything to me, and honestly, I'm terrified. Does anyone here know anything about radiofrequency ablation of tumor tissue being performed on a rib??
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
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#88 ·
Thomas Lewis9 said:I feel like I've been hitting a brick wall for days now. Ever since I found out my dad was hit by that terrible disease called cancer, and ever since the doctors decided against surgery in favor of going straight to chemo, I've felt completely paralyzed. He means everything to me, and honestly, I'm terrified. Does anyone here know anything about radiofrequency ablation of tumor tissue being performed on a rib??

Honey, please don't hesitate to reach out to the "for a new day" association.
Just know that you aren't alone in feeling this way. Within the association and on our website, you'll find people who are going through exactly what you're experiencing right now, along with those who have been through the fire already. We help each other by sharing experiences, thoughts, comfort, advice, and genuine support. I can tell you're absolutely crushed at the moment. Understand that you shouldn't—and definitely shouldn't—have to process these thoughts entirely on your own. Please, reach out to us without any hesitation. You'll find email addresses and a phone number on our site if you just need someone to talk to. Don't be afraid! Cancer is a brutal disease, but it can be beaten. It is vital that you face the situation head-on and accept the reality of it so that you can stay strong and be the best possible support system for your dad. That strength is just as critical as the surgery and the chemo.
You’re going to be okay.🙂

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