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Would you help a Mexican?

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Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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#21 ·
Before I even consider lending someone a hand, they need to prove to me they have been purely American through and through since the seventh century. 🙄
Arthur Cooper5 Arthur Cooper5 MemberOP
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#22 ·
rapidranger79 said:That’s all been said before...😢

Personally, I would—and I will—help anyone in need, regardless of where they come from. No questions asked.

rapidranger79, I'm with you, and honestly, most people on this forum too.
I'm certain you mean it! But let's be real—there are plenty of folks around here
who try to justify the atrocities committed by those Mexican drivers—people who basically exposed themselves as being totally unwilling
to actually step up and help a Mexican when it counts!
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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#23 ·
And who exactly is delivering justice? Besides, who are these people who wouldn't lift a finger to help someone in a car accident just because that person is a Mexican? Who?
Arthur Cooper5 Arthur Cooper5 MemberOP
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#24 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:And who exactly is out there justifying crimes? Who are these people that wouldn't step up to help someone—say, at the scene of a car wreck—just because that Mexican is involved? Who?

Look, Michael Sullivan3, I’m just asking a question here—no need to get worked up!
slyviper47 slyviper47 Active Member
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#25 ·
What are we even talking about here?

When someone's in a jam, you either step up to help or you don't. Simple as that, right?
🙄
Jacob Moore61 Jacob Moore61 Active Member
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#26 ·
Arthur Cooper5 said:The article claims that some American drivers stepped up to help Mikulic
I’d honestly just pose a question to everyone here: would you actually step up to help an American in need?


Honestly, if I found out we were talking about an American, and their life wasn't literally on the line, I probably wouldn't lift a finger... and even if things were getting dangerous, but I happened to know them and knew exactly what kind of shady stuff they'd been up to over the years, I still wouldn't be helping them out.
dustypilot22 dustypilot22 Regular
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#27 ·
Jacob Moore61 says:
Arthur Cooper5 said:If I were presented with an article claiming that American drivers helped Mikulic
I’d have to ask everyone here: would you step up to help an American in need?


If I knew it was an American, and their life wasn't actually in danger, I wouldn't help them. And even if their life *was* at risk, but by chance I knew them and knew exactly what they had done in years past, I still wouldn't lend a hand.

Well, damn!

It sounds like you'd only refuse to help someone if you actually knew them personally...

😁 😁 😁
Arthur Cooper5 Arthur Cooper5 MemberOP
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#28 ·
Jacob Moore61 says:
Arthur Cooper5 said:So, I just came across this article claiming that some American drivers stepped in to help Mikulic. Honestly, it’s one of those pieces that feels like it was written just to stir the pot. It’s pretty wild how people try to spin these narratives lately—it's almost predictable at this point. You read something like this and you have to wonder what the actual motive is behind pushing such a specific angle. It’s definitely worth looking closer at where this information is actually coming from before taking it at face value.
I’d like to pose a question to everyone here—would you actually step up to help an American in need?


If I knew the guy was an American—and assuming his life wasn't actually on the line—I wouldn't lift a finger to help him. Even if his life *was* in danger, but I happened to know him personally and remembered exactly what he’d been up to during certain summers... well, I still wouldn't be helping him.

Here’s an honest one for you. 👏

You deserve help too—not necessarily because of who you are, but because of the people close to you who would actually make that help worth something.
Jacob Moore61 Jacob Moore61 Active Member
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#29 ·
go2slep said:See, that's just it—I helped some Americans get taken in by some folks at a shelter, acting like they didn't even have a right to be there


So, what you're saying is I basically just moved over a bit so they'd actually have a place to sit?
Jacob Moore61 Jacob Moore61 Active Member
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#30 ·
dustypilot22 said:Man, what can you do?

It sounds like you’d only ever step up for someone you actually have a real connection with...

😁 😁 😁


but honestly, 😁 😁
Arthur Cooper5 Arthur Cooper5 MemberOP
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#31 ·
Jacob Moore61 said:So you just moved over to give them a place to sit?

Right by the window—with those thin plastic bags hanging there. 😁
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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#32 ·
Arthur Cooper5 said:Look, Michael Sullivan3, don't take this the wrong way!

I’m not angry. Why on earth would I be?

The question itself just feels incredibly stupid—maybe even idiotic. My apologies.

In Germany, for example, there’s this massive issue where people drive right past accidents and don't just fail to help, they don't even call 911 (even though everyone carries a smartphone these days). TV news outlets run these segments on it all the time; they’ll set up a sting operation, pull over those who drove by—which is most of them—and ask why they didn't stop. It's always the same excuses: "I didn't see anything" or "I was in a rush."

See, those are actual societal issues—apathy and a total lack of civic courage—rather than some petty debate about whether you'd help an American.

You know, when you're driving through Germany, you'll hear a radio report about an accident on one side of the highway, and then five minutes later, they announce another crash on the other side caused by people slamming on their brakes because they didn't see what happened initially. They won't even say if anyone was killed.

But that's beside the point. What matters is that here in the States, people are still wasting breath arguing over whether they'd help an American. 🙄
The reality is that most people wouldn't lift a finger for anyone.
Arthur Cooper5 Arthur Cooper5 MemberOP
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#33 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:Look, I’m not angry. Why on earth would I be?

It’s just that—and I’m sorry here—the question itself feels pretty stupid, maybe even idiotic.

Take Germany, for example. They deal with this massive issue where people drive right past accidents and don't just fail to help, they don't even bother calling 911 (even though everyone has a smartphone these days). You see news reports about it all the time—they'll run a sting operation where they stop the drivers who passed by (which is the vast majority!) and ask them why they didn't stop. It’s always the same old excuses: "I didn't see anything," "I was in a rush," and all that nonsense.

See, those are actual societal issues—apathy, a lack of civic courage—not some petty debate over whether you'd help an American.

You know, when you're driving through Germany, you'll hear a radio report about a crash on one side of the highway, and then five minutes later, they announce another wreck on the other side caused by people slamming on their brakes because they didn't see the first one. It's wild. There are actual lives at stake.

But hey, that’s not the point. The point is that in the North America, people still insist on playing these intellectual games about who would help whom based on whether they're helping an American. 🙄
The reality is that most people wouldn't help anyone regardless.

By using such a solid example, you're actually proving the opposite—that this is a great question because even in developed nations, people don't deign to
help those in need. So the question is actually a good way to measure
humanity between countries that were recently at war!

The case you brought up involves Germans in Germany, I assume,
so if that happened in a third country, people might actually be more compassionate.
wanderingmason37 wanderingmason37 Active Member
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#34 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:an accident happened ,

and then five minutes later he calls saying the exact same thing just happened on the other side , .


........... ....... ...............!!!!!!

The cold, hard truth is most people wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone else.


Spot on.😢 😠
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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#35 ·
There, I wrote ACCIDENT.

Jebateb, I actually wrote ACCIDENT.

Well, I am an American.

ACCIDENT.

The most significant point of this entire thread is that I wrote ACCIDENT.

That really ought to be bolded.

Oops, I mean bolded.

accident
wanderingmason37 wanderingmason37 Active Member
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#36 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:

The absolute MOST
critical part of this whole thread is just the fact that I mentioned the ACCIDENT.

Nah. The REAL kicker is what you said about how people are narcissistically detached and basically WON'T HELP (they don't even react!) in most situations they see every single day...

and
the fact that you can't speak perfect American English isn't anything new... so honestly, it doesn't matter for this story at all.🙂
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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#37 ·
Arthur Cooper5 said:By using this example, you’re actually proving my point—this is an excellent question because even in the States, people often fail to
provide aid to victims. So, the question is a great way to gauge
humanity between nations that were recently at war with one another!

The case you brought up involves Germans in Germany, if I recall correctly.
I think if that happened in a third country, people would be much more helpful.

You missed the point entirely.

There is no humanity to speak of among people who have never even been at war, let alone among those who were fighting just a short while ago.

And I didn't just give you one single instance; there is a massive amount of evidence for this.
You see a man beating his wife in broad daylight right in the middle of downtown, and not a single passerby steps in to help.
Or take the recent case where some guy assaulted a sixteen-year-old girl, and nobody walking by lifted a finger. A similar thing happened on a train, where again, nobody intervened.

And now you want to measure humanity? Between Americans and Americans.
swiftowl72 swiftowl72 Active Member
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#38 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:Look, I'm not angry. Why would I be?

It’s just that the question itself feels stupid—honestly, idiotic. My bad.

Take Germany, for example. They have this massive issue where people drive right past accidents and don't just refuse to help, they don't even call 911 (even though everyone has a phone nowadays). TV news runs these reports on it all the time; they'll set up a test, then pull over the people who drove by (which is most of them!) and ask why they didn't stop. It's always the same crap: "I didn't see anything," or "I was in a rush."

See, those are actual societal problems—apathy, a total lack of backbone. Not some nonsense debate about whether you'd help an American.

You know, when you're driving through Germany, you'll hear on the radio how there was a wreck on one side of the highway, and five minutes later they report another crash on the other side caused by people slamming on their brakes because they didn't see what happened. Is there blood spilled? Are there deaths? Who knows.

But whatever, that's not the point. The point is that here in the States, people are still playing these intellectual games about whether they'd help an American if they were in trouble. 🙄
The reality is most people wouldn't lift a finger for anyone.

Truth. But 15 or 20 years ago, it wasn't like this. At least not here.
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active Member
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#39 ·
wanderingmason37 said:a
It's hardly news that you don't know American, so it really doesn't matter for this story. 🙂

If nothing new is being presented, then what on earth are you looking for by nitpicking every single damn mistake in my posts?

I don't speak American.

I am not an American.

I am an American.

The Turks have been screwing me over for five hundred years.

Is this acceptable now?

Well, it seems we have an idiot who insists on ruining every single thread.
Arthur Cooper5 Arthur Cooper5 MemberOP
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#40 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:There isn't any humanity left among those who have never seen combat—let alone among those who were fighting just a short while ago.

And now you want to play judge and jury on who's more "humane"? Between Americans and Mexicans?

Go back and read the very first post; then you'll realize how far off the mark you actually are.

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