Here we go again... Nepotism is out of control.

dustyscout53 said:Who exactly is accountable for a corporation's performance? The owner. And who owns General Electric? The government. There’s your answer, using GE as the template. They have been dragging their feet on the privatization of General Electric for far too long...

That's the crux of it. You eliminate nepotism within a company through privatization. Once that happens, who a private owner chooses to hire becomes their business—and ultimately, their own financial responsibility.

placebo said:rather than just heading straight to the electric chair? 😕

I am truly sorry, but I simply lack the intellectual capacity required to grasp the logic behind your conclusion.

placebo said:instead of just heading straight to the guillotine? 😕

In this country, you go to prison for treason. And framing a bad hire? That’s basically a specific type of betraying the national interest.

Bradley Fisher20 said:Embezzlement lands you in prison. And hiring unqualified people? That's basically just another way of betraying the public interest.

Betraying the national interest... man. Can you imagine getting stuck in a cell for six months because you "betrayed" the government? Honestly, there's probably a little bit of a radical in all of us...

goldengull3 said:That's the thing... You kill nepotism in companies by privatizing them. Once a private boss takes over, who they hire is their business. Their call. And their wallet.

What we’re actually aiming for is building a government structure so solid and transparent that even the biggest Fortune 500 company would be proud to be associated with it. We're talking about a state that functions like an autopoietic organization—something way more complex and self-sustaining than any single corporation could ever dream of being.

Once we finally nail that kind of system, it's totally possible the government will end up absorbing all those public sector roles under its own umbrella...

dustyscout53 said:Betraying the national interest. Just imagine... getting slapped with six months in federal prison just for screwing over the country. Honestly, there’s a little bit of a radical leftist hiding inside every single one of us...

This has zero to do with being a communist, kid. It's about protecting the interests of the United States.

Bradley Fisher20 said:Look, this isn't about communism—it's just about protecting national interests, man.

So you think we should throw people in jail just because their business tanked? Honestly, you're right—that's got nothing to do with communism.😁 😁
I mean, if a company goes bankrupt, what then? We just toss the owners and their families behind bars too? Just because... life happens, I guess. 😁 😁 😛
Comparing this to communism, or China, or rice production and all that stuff... it's a stretch.

dustyscout53 said:Drawing parallels to communism, the influence of China, rice production yields, and all that nonsense...

Forget about those people in China; they didn't exactly build their empire through peaceful cooperation or anything soft like that...

In China, when they decide to execute someone, they actually send a bill to the family for the cost of the bullet.😁

Eric Wells3 said:Forget about those Chinese people—they aren't just sitting around doing nothing...

In China, when someone gets shot, they actually send his family a bill for the bullet.😁

I mean, if it were a real democracy over there, they’d probably just let a guy take his own life with a knife instead of draining the state budget like this. And you want to know the best part? The guards bring their own old bullets and swap them out. They use the spent ones but collect the payout for brand new ones. Talk about a hustle, right? They can pull in like five bucks a year just off that little scheme. 👎

dustyscout53 said:You seriously think you should be locking people up just because their business numbers are tanking? Honestly... you're spot on. That’s got nothing to do with any political ideology... none at all. 😁 😁
And if their company goes bankrupt? Forget it... we’re coming for them AND their whole damn family... lock 'em all up... 😁 😁 😛
It’s basically just communism all over again... you look at China and then you see this whole mess with rice yields and whatever else they're throwing at us... it's all the same pattern...

Oh man, dustyscout53... I told you a long time ago that this lifestyle just isn't for you, forget about all that political nonsense. Seriously, not everyone is cut out for this kind of grind... 🙂

Bradley Fisher20 said:Man, dustyscout53—I told you ages ago that you’re more about the actual work than all this political nonsense. Not everyone is cut out for the grind, right? 🙂

And that counts as an answer? You're quite the philosopher, aren't you—really mastered the art of conversation...
Honestly, seeing the kind of trolls I run into in politics lately, I actually take your comment as a compliment. For every decent person trying to have a real discussion, there are ten guys like Bradley Fisher20. It’s all just a bit much for me.

I mean, look, we used to be such a small-scale operation back in the day where everyone basically knew someone, you know? It’s almost impossible to dodge nepotism when it feels like everybody is connected to somebody through some cousin or old high school buddy somewhere.

How can you even call that normal? I mean, some people actually still hold out hope that we’ll one day live in a country where there's actual order, and where people get judged on what they can actually do instead of who they know.

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dustyscout53 said:I didn't say anyone was being held accountable for the poor results. They should be, obviously, but they aren't. That usually happens eventually.
It used to be that executives at state-owned companies were automatically cycled out whenever a new administration took office. Now, it looks like they're being appointed again without any open competition. Every single one of these positions should be filled through a public hiring process. Take Vesna trnokop or Tomislav Dragicevic—if my memory serves, they were actually selected through a formal process. And if you get the job that way, the incoming administration shouldn't just kick you to the curb. That’s just one example of how the system is supposed to function.
Crkvenac sat on 13 NO boards, and Linic was on about 17, I think. They were "volunteers." Honestly, I don't care whether they were volunteers or not; being on 13 boards is overkill. Didn't the Democratic Party have more people they could have tapped? If they didn't, they should have brought in independent experts. Instead, they just kept stacking the deck with their own people.
Sanders broke that tradition.
I suspect his wife actually pulled in quite a few votes for Racan. And honestly, that’s one positive development.

The best part is, she’s probably the only instance of nepotism where the person actually did an excellent job. Even Zuzul kept her on. 👍

tiger said:How can you even call that normal? I mean, some of us are actually holding out hope that one day we'll live in a country where things actually run smoothly and people get respected for what they can actually do, rather than just who they know.

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Then there’s the flip side of the coin—I’ve heard stories about how companies in the States won't even hire someone super talented and overqualified just because they want to play favorites with a buddy or a cousin to keep things looking "fair" on paper.

I don't know if that's happening everywhere, but I honestly believe it could be a thing.

But hey, we're stuck in this small-town, old-school mindset here.

Just a quick rundown of what I read in the globusov article... though it barely even touches on the public job openings.
It’s just how the political game works, right? Like, say the boss is from the Democratic Party and his deputy is from the Republican Party. If the Democratic Party wins the election, the deputy stays put. If the Republicans take over, they swap him out for someone from the Libertarian Party.
I get the argument that these people know their stuff—and sure, management experience matters—but seriously, if you’re bringing someone in from a different industry, why not just run them through a proper public hiring process? For crying out loud, don't just appoint your buddies just because they're "your guys," regardless of talent. If they're actually as good as everyone says, they should be able to crush it in an open competition.

Look, we all know Sanders was the first one to point out that the federal bureaucracy is way too bloated.
It’s totally expected that a new administration would bring in some fresh faces, but man, I really hope they don't get too reckless with the taxpayer dollars.
If they start slashing budgets blindly, you can bet the unions will be out there ready to tear them apart.

...I’m telling you, Tomislav Dragicevic was basically hand-picked through a rigged competition...

It’s obvious—he won a "contest" that was strictly orchestrated by that small coalition back in 2000. And the real clincher? He happened to be the son-in-law of Savka Dapcevic Kucar, who, let's not forget, was the supposedly honorable president of the Democratic Party. Honestly, if this had been a competition for livestock buyers instead of the CEO position at ExxonMobil, maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation!

Whatever said:Look, there’s really no argument here—if someone is in a position to hire, they can absolutely bring on someone famous if that person actually has the skills and qualifications for the job. That happens everywhere.

It’s one thing if we’re talking about a private corporation. I mean, if you want to, you can hire your late grandmother at your own company; it doesn't affect me at all. It's your money, you do what you want. But when you're dealing with a state-owned entity, that's a whole different ballgame. 😠 If there are a hundred other applicants—or even just one—who are just as qualified or even more capable, where does that give you the right to just hand a job to a relative? 😠

Honestly, until recently, I actually thought Delta Air Lines was a private company because half the staff there seems to be Mišetićev's extended family. It’s honestly disgusting! 👎 🙂

Rocky said:There’s also the other side of things. I’ve heard stories about how companies in the States won't hire someone actually qualified just because they want to play favorites—hiring a buddy or a cousin to make it look legitimate.

I don't know if it's true, but I guess it's possible.

We’re just stuck in this small-town mindset...

We'll stay stuck in this loser mentality as long as we keep believing that's just how things work...
Maybe it's finally time for some new blood to step up.