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Eric Adams - Mayor of San Francisco

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Dana Martin95 Dana Martin95 Active MemberOP
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#61 ·
State Inspectors: Puljak is under attack and being smeared

I guess we'll just keep watching how this case develops to see if Ivica Puljak ends up having to pay anything. It feels like the GOP is digging an even deeper hole every single day... maybe it's time to say goodbye to the local administration in San Francisco for good
Richard Lopez Richard Lopez Active Member
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#62 ·
Dana Martin95 said:State Inspectors: Puljak is under attack and being smeared

I guess we'll just keep watching how this case develops to see if Ivica Puljak ends up having to pay anything. It feels like the GOP is digging an even deeper hole every single day... maybe it's time to say goodbye to the local administration in San Francisco for good

The fine should go to veža, the federal commissioner for the city of San Diego, shouldn't it?

He even produced the handover report signed by the federal commissioner for the city of San Diego. "On page 67 of the handover report, it states that the terrace and main building sewage repairs were completed. It mentions returning everything to its original state because construction inspectors halted the work. Basically, the commissioner confirmed that everything was restored to its original condition," said Ivica Puljak.

And where did they get that number?
And how exactly is it decided when someone carries personal responsibility?

With the Republican state companies, their legal fees are paid by the firm 😳
as are the fines.

One more thing—if the inspectors falsified the findings, how would you even prove that?
Timothy Stewart4 Timothy Stewart4 Member
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#63 ·
Dana Martin95 said:State Inspectors: Puljak is under attack and being smeared

I guess we'll just keep watching how this case develops to see if Ivica Puljak ends up having to pay anything. It feels like the GOP is digging an even deeper hole every single day... maybe it's time to say goodbye to the local administration in San Francisco for good

They completely blurred the line between a legal entity and a physical person! 🤦
Dana Martin95 Dana Martin95 Active MemberOP
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#64 ·
Timothy Stewart4 said:They completely blurred the line between a legal entity and a physical person! 🤦

So, basically, the city of San Diego is the legal entity, and Ivica Puljak is the individual responsible for that entity, or so they claim.

It's actually written that the fine used to force a legal entity to comply is issued via an order to the individual responsible for that legal entity.
George Diaz George Diaz Member
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#65 ·
Don't sweat it, they’ll probably set up some fundraiser down on the Boardwalk or right outside the Rose Bowl, wherever,
The people here in San Diego are going to pay this fine just to show them we aren't backing down.
That place belongs to us forever.
Richard Lopez Richard Lopez Active Member
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#66 ·
Funny how they suddenly remembered this now. Personal accountability...

Supposedly he was personally fined
These two key details are just the tip of the iceberg in this absurd saga over some minor infrastructure project that somehow turned into a national scandal. He isn't the first mayor in history to be held personally liable—his predecessor, say, once got slapped with a $1,000 fine for handing out a contract to renovate local preschools to a buddy without a bidding process. But sure, let's act like he's paying for everyone else's sins now.
But watch this,$3.25 favoritism. Please. As if those fines actually matter.
It’s not like those penalties fix or undo the corruption, cronyism, or shady deals.

The way they started, the mayor could have ended up losing his house within a month with everything those inspectors can "find" and "write down."
They could probably go after the Mayor of Los Angeles next.
vividraven79 vividraven79 Active Member
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#67 ·
The Department of Inspections slapped them with a fine under Section 142 of the Administrative Procedure Act.

That specific section covers "monetary penalties used to enforce non-monetary obligations."

I'm just wondering which non-monetary obligation the City of San Diego failed to meet that required such heavy-handed enforcement against the individual in charge?
Richard Lopez Richard Lopez Active Member
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#68 ·
George Diaz said:Don't sweat it, they’ll probably set up some fundraiser down on the Boardwalk or right outside the Rose Bowl, wherever,
The people here in San Diego are going to pay this fine just to show them we aren't backing down.
That place belongs to us forever.

*will
Just let me know when, we'll show up and join in too...
🙂
Richard Lopez Richard Lopez Active Member
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#69 ·
vividraven79 said:The Department of Inspections slapped them with a fine under Section 142 of the Administrative Procedure Act.

That specific section covers "monetary penalties used to enforce non-monetary obligations."

I'm just wondering which non-monetary obligation the City of San Diego failed to meet that required such heavy-handed enforcement against the individual in charge?

I don't get it either.
We need to know exactly when someone becomes personally liable (and pays out of pocket).
Kate Jackson2 Kate Jackson2 Active Member
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#70 ·
Richard Lopez said:I don't get it either.
We need to know exactly when someone becomes personally liable (and pays out of pocket).

The whole legal system here is such a mess—vague, poorly defined... it basically gives "independent" judges a free pass to interpret things however they feel like.
Emily Smith6 Emily Smith6 Active Member
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#71 ·
Just take a look at how the Department of Inspections operates when they're dealing with the Republican Party versus how they handle someone like Puljak.

“Construction regulations are perfectly clear, and they apply equally to everyone across the entire United States.”
Those words come straight from the Department of Inspections, which is headed by a notorious Republican loyalist. They’re essentially trying to convince the public that building inspectors act impartially, without playing favorites or ignoring political affiliations.
Well, let’s see how that actually plays out in the real world. Puljak was hit with a $100 $0.00 fine for construction work that he isn't even responsible for—work that the building inspector herself determined wasn't even happening.

Now, what happens if that very same inspector finds in three separate instances that the responsible party is actually a Republican Governor? What kind of fine do you think a Republican Governor receives when an inspector identifies him as the person violating construction codes on three different occasions? Even though you probably already know the answer, I'll spell it out for you: zero. You can check the official rulings in the attachment.
Think about it this way: imagine you get pulled over by the police three times for speeding. The first time, they might just give you a warning. The second time, you get a ticket. By the third time, it's going to cost you a significant amount of money. Unless, of course, you happen to be carrying a Republican Party membership card...

What’s happening to Puljak is the same thing happening to countless citizens across America who have become victims of Republican cronyism. They won't intimidate us, nor will they force us to back down. The only path toward a functional, honest society is the political removal of the Republican Party. I have no doubt that Americans will make the same choice they made in San Diego.
That's just Puljak's mistake; he's carrying the wrong membership card.
Dana Martin95 Dana Martin95 Active MemberOP
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#72 ·
Ivica Puljak
7 min ·
I feel for my fellow citizens, and I know this isn't just happening to me—it happens every single day to people who aren't part of the Republican Party octopus.

Also, I see the Department of Inspections' decision as an unprecedented precedent and a blatant attempt to pressure us out of politics. But it won't work, because we aren't afraid of anyone, not even them or their fines. They won't destroy us; America isn't, and never will be, anyone's playground.

At today's press conference, I laid out the timeline regarding the water and hydrant line work near the Rose Bowl area. I showed documentation proving that I am not responsible for the issue that led the Department of Inspections to fine me $15,000.

I'm calling on the Department of Inspections and the Building Inspection Department to urgently overturn this decision. If they don't, no mayor will be able to take office knowing they could be fined for mistakes made by predecessors that weren't even their fault. I’m also asking them to disclose how many similar fines have been issued and how many officials had to pay them out of their own pockets instead of using city or county budgets.

https://web.facebook.com/PuljakIvica...53LiWmAUr2DP2l
I guess this really will be a unique precedent, though I think it could easily be overturned in court, which will probably happen.
Richard Lopez Richard Lopez Active Member
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#73 ·
vividraven79 said:The Department of Inspections slapped them with a fine under Section 142 of the Administrative Procedure Act.

That specific section covers "monetary penalties used to enforce non-monetary obligations."

I'm just wondering which non-monetary obligation the City of San Diego failed to meet that required such heavy-handed enforcement against the individual in charge?

What vividraven79 pointed out is definitely a problem...
Someone's trying to play us here...

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The Department of Inspections... said:The Building Inspection Department checked up on the site and found they were still working after the whole project was shut down without any legal paperwork. Because of that, the inspectors slapped them with fines to force them to stop construction immediately... Under Section 142, Paragraph 2 of the Administrative Procedure Act, it’s clearly laid out that the fines imposed... A corporation is forcing an execution...The decision is issued directly to the individual in charge and the legal entity itself...

So... They're forcing a corporation to pay up.
So the decision gets issued directly to the individual responsible...

1.
I don't see any reason why we can't hold the actual responsible party liable instead of just the corporation...
Or he could just take the money directly from the city right now... He personally forced a legal entity to make a payment...

The Department of Inspections issued a statement noting that on February 14, 2023, they confirmed construction work was continuing despite the site being shut down without any legal authorization...

We already know this is a lie, don't we...

link
vividraven79 vividraven79 Active Member
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#74 ·
They aren't actually forcing the corporation to pay. Instead, they're squeezing the entity into fulfilling a non-monetary obligation by hitting the individual in charge with heavy fines.
I’m just trying to wrap my head around what specific non-monetary duty the City is being forced to carry out here.
Dana Martin95 Dana Martin95 Active MemberOP
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#75 ·
Victoria Kennedy from San Francisco put it all so well

Quincy:
Victoria Kennedy
1 d. ·
Please, just look at this situation!

A Republican supporter orders illegal sewer repairs for The White House. The sewers were falling apart, but instead of actually getting a building permit and doing things right, they just went ahead without one, acting like laws don't apply to them.

John Hickenlooper takes office, finds out the work was illegal, stops everything, and orders them to restore everything to its original state.

John Hickenlooper resigns, and Miran Veža steps in as part of the Commission Government.

While the Commission Government is in charge instead of Hickenlooper, the Building Inspection Department shows up and orders the site to be restored to how it was before.

Then Hickenlooper wins the election again and takes power back from the Commission.

Under our laws, when there's a transfer of power, both the old and new officials have to sign off on a handover report.

That’s what happens here. In the handover report, the Commission Government explicitly confirms to Hickenlooper that everything was repaired and returned to its original state ACCORDING to the Building Inspection Department's orders.

So, Hickenlooper is totally convinced everything is fine.

Eight months later, he gets a "congratulations" note from the Building Inspection Department saying he personally has to pay a $15,000 fine because it turns out things weren't actually restored properly.

So, the ONLY person who did everything right—ordered the work stopped and made sure things were fixed—is the one being fined $15,000 out of his own pocket.

What do you guys think? Would this have happened to a Republican if they were in his shoes?
Quincy:
Victoria Kennedy
1 d. ·
This is one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

The Republican Party is playing on a whole different level.

If they can't find anything on you, or plant evidence against you or your team, even after you've defended yourself so many times...

Then they'll just find a way to make you pay the fines for their predecessors who broke the law.

Only in America!

Even North Korea wouldn't come up with something like this.
https://web.facebook.com/viktorija.k...qkCEGby1mNospl>
Richard Lopez Richard Lopez Active Member
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#76 ·
vividraven79 said:They aren't actually forcing the corporation to pay. Instead, they're squeezing the entity into fulfilling a non-monetary obligation by hitting the individual in charge with heavy fines.
I’m just trying to wrap my head around what specific non-monetary duty the City is being forced to carry out here.

Aha, so they force the corporation to meet a non-monetary obligation by fining the person in charge privately...

And that "non-monetary obligation" would be stopping the construction work.
(Like when they first ordered them to halt everything and restore it to how it was, but nobody listened and "work was still going on in mid-February 2023.")
Emily Smith6 Emily Smith6 Active Member
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#77 ·
Richard Lopez said:Aha, so they force the corporation to meet a non-monetary obligation by fining the person in charge privately...

And that "non-monetary obligation" would be stopping the construction work.
(Like when they first ordered them to halt everything and restore it to how it was, but nobody listened and "work was still going on in mid-February 2023.")

From that point until about a month ago, absolutely nothing happened. Then, the Building Inspection Department finally showed up on-site and officially noted that no work was being performed, confirming alongside our local agencies that the restoration work had actually been completed back in March of last year. And after all that, I personally get hit with a fine via this Decision, while the City is ordered to stop construction that actually ceased a full year ago, stated Mayor John Hickenlooper, backing his claims with documentation that has been released to the public today.
darkhawk30 darkhawk30 Active Member
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#78 ·
George Diaz said:Don't sweat it, they’ll probably set up some fundraiser down on the Boardwalk or right outside the Rose Bowl, wherever,
The people here in San Diego are going to pay this fine just to show them we aren't backing down.
That place belongs to us forever.


What kind of fundraiser?
If you’re actually planning on collecting money, do it for the legal team that's going to tear this decision to shreds, not to pay off this absolute joke of a ruling.
vividraven79 vividraven79 Active Member
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#79 ·
The real issue is that filing an appeal doesn't actually pause the enforcement. It basically means you have to pay up first and then fight it later.
Dana Martin95 Dana Martin95 Active MemberOP
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#80 ·
Tomislav šut is just twisting everything like a typical Republican would😁

https://web.facebook.com/permalink.p...00088660304071

Quincy:
Tomislav šut
15 min ·
Today we got to hear yet another excuse from Mayor Hickenlooper regarding the fine issued by the Building Inspection Department. According to their findings, the work in question definitely started—and even continued—during his term, regardless of how much he tries to spin it.

Instead of using the administrative process like any other citizen to present evidence in his defense, he’s trying to bypass it through media pressure and distorting facts that seem pretty clear to everyone.

Without getting into the weeds, since all the relevant authorities have already weighed in, anyone who missed his press conference probably saw it for what it was: just a series of hysterical attempts to dodge responsibility, lecturing journalists, showing a lack of knowledge on the subject, and the usual attacks on the Republican Party.

It’s funny how he and his council members empty the city of people, organizations, local shops, and daycare centers, while simultaneously calling for everyone else to respect the Law. Now that the Law is knocking on his own door, he calls it a political witch hunt and demands his fine be dropped. His wife hypocritically asks for empathy by announcing they need to take out loans to pay things off, yet neither of them showed any empathy for the families who lost their livelihoods or those struggling with rent hikes caused by decisions made by Hickenlooper and Maja Đerek.

We’re asking the Mayor to dial back the anti-Republican hysteria, start doing his job according to the law, and save his arguments for the actual legal proceedings, just like every other American citizen.

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