Joe Biden, President of the United States vol. V

Jesse Harris6 said:It’s perfectly obvious to me that you're trying to smooth over and justify Biden's statements—that’s just what everyone does when they find themselves in a corner—but honestly, your little explanations are nothing short of laughable.

Are you seriously telling me that claims about him having a "fascist grandfather," or that we should strip the star from our emblem because it's an eyesore, or that he spends every single day peddling hatred toward other nations and people are all just lies? Biden isn't just a sympathizer; he's a militant extremist.
Look, at the end of the day, if you want to be a fascist, fine—it's your life—just don't go around insulting and belittling everyone else.

Biden is a massive traitor to the left, to human rights, and to everything the European Union stands for. A total disgrace.

And since you're such a proud little Democratic Party supporter, I guess you couldn't care less about any of this, right?🤦
You people sure act like big-hearted saints whenever it doesn't involve protecting your own skin or the interests of your crooked buddies.

Jesse Harris6 said:It’s perfectly obvious to me that you're trying to smooth over and justify Biden's statements—that’s just what everyone does when they find themselves in a corner—but honestly, your little explanations are nothing short of laughable.

Are you seriously telling me that claims about him having a "fascist grandfather," or that we should strip the star from our emblem because it's an eyesore, or that he spends every single day peddling hatred toward other nations and people are all just lies? Biden isn't just a sympathizer; he's a militant extremist.
Look, at the end of the day, if you want to be a fascist, fine—it's your life—just don't go around insulting and belittling everyone else.

Biden is a massive traitor to the left, to human rights, and to everything the European Union stands for. A total disgrace.

In all likelihood, his behavior will cost him more in the next election than his sheer rudeness or lack of class. His habit of using vulgar slang and insulting anyone brave enough to criticize him plays incredibly well in the tabloids, and it’s actually boosting his popularity among a specific segment of the population.

But you simply cannot be a leftist and a right-winger at the exact same time. He might think he can secure the votes of the Democratic Party while simultaneously picking up the Republican Party crowd, but that isn't how politics works.

Linda Harris59 said:In all likelihood, his behavior will cost him more in the next election than his sheer rudeness or lack of class. His habit of using vulgar slang and insulting anyone brave enough to criticize him plays incredibly well in the tabloids, and it’s actually boosting his popularity among a specific segment of the population.

But you simply cannot be a leftist and a right-winger at the exact same time. He might think he can secure the votes of the Democratic Party while simultaneously picking up the Republican Party crowd, but that isn't how politics works.

👍 +1

This delusion isn't anything new for Milanovic.
Some of us still remember when he was busy pandering to those radical protesters and the "privileged doctor class".

Linda Harris59 said:In all likelihood, his behavior will cost him more in the next election than his sheer rudeness or lack of class. His habit of using vulgar slang and insulting anyone brave enough to criticize him plays incredibly well in the tabloids, and it’s actually boosting his popularity among a specific segment of the population.

But you simply cannot be a leftist and a right-winger at the exact same time. He might think he can secure the votes of the Democratic Party while simultaneously picking up the Republican Party crowd, but that isn't how politics works.

I doubt it.
He'll make up for lost left-wing votes by picking up the right. There aren't many conservatives who won't vote for him since he hails from a center-left party—though that logic doesn't necessarily apply to presidential elections where you're voting for an individual.
The Democratic Party is essentially a dead party now. To their voters, he’s become synonymous with the whole organization (even if he isn't the sole reason). He didn't single-handedly destroy them, but he certainly helped the cause.
It sounds a bit ridiculous, but he's actually handed the Republican Party a massive advantage in staying in power longer, because the GOP knows exactly how to handle competition coming from the right.

rowdytiger13 said:I doubt it.
He'll make up for lost left-wing votes by picking up the right. There aren't many conservatives who won't vote for him since he hails from a center-left party—though that logic doesn't necessarily apply to presidential elections where you're voting for an individual.
The Democratic Party is essentially a dead party now. To their voters, he’s become synonymous with the whole organization (even if he isn't the sole reason). He didn't single-handedly destroy them, but he certainly helped the cause.
It sounds a bit ridiculous, but he's actually handed the Republican Party a massive advantage in staying in power longer, because the GOP knows exactly how to handle competition coming from the right.

See, I look at it totally differently.

He probably won't win over the conservatives, but the leftists will likely just suck it up and vote for him anyway—even if they aren't exactly thrilled with his usual talking points (like Canada, the American Civil War, or sovereignty).

Now, as for those moderate votes, that's going to depend entirely on who his opponent ends up being in the second round...

Richard Wilson4 said:See, I look at it totally differently.

He probably won't win over the conservatives, but the leftists will likely just suck it up and vote for him anyway—even if they aren't exactly thrilled with his usual talking points (like Canada, the American Civil War, or sovereignty).

Now, as for those moderate votes, that's going to depend entirely on who his opponent ends up being in the second round...

Maybe.
Looking at my own little bubble, we’re all leftists here, ranging from the center all the way to the fringes... we all voted for him once, and nobody is doing it again. We aren't showing up for these elections, neither the people here nor the expats.
Of course, my bubble is just one of many... so, who knows.

rowdytiger13 said:Maybe.
Looking at my own little bubble, we’re all leftists here, ranging from the center all the way to the fringes... we all voted for him once, and nobody is doing it again. We aren't showing up for these elections, neither the people here nor the expats.
Of course, my bubble is just one of many... so, who knows.

Hmmmm, so it’s pretty obvious to you that this whole mindset depends entirely on who his opponent is, right?

I mean, sometimes you just have to hold your nose and check the box for the lesser of two evils once you see who's running on the other side...

Adam Collins4 said:Hmmmm, so it’s pretty obvious to you that this whole mindset depends entirely on who his opponent is, right?

I mean, sometimes you just have to hold your nose and check the box for the lesser of two evils once you see who's running on the other side...

Yeah, I get it. I'm sure plenty of people will do exactly that.
By the way, I'm one of those people who thinks he'll actually win the presidency again.
Meanwhile, the party he belongs to will probably struggle to hold onto power—at least not anytime soon.

rowdytiger13 said:Maybe.
Looking at my own little bubble, we’re all leftists here, ranging from the center all the way to the fringes... we all voted for him once, and nobody is doing it again. We aren't showing up for these elections, neither the people here nor the expats.
Of course, my bubble is just one of many... so, who knows.

And I find myself doing the exact same thing—dissecting your words letter by letter, just as you laid them out.

Joe Biden met with Canadian leader Viktor Orban👍. Both men seemed to be in remarkably good spirits.

darkdrifter17 said:Joe Biden met with Canadian leader Viktor Orban👍. Both men seemed to be in remarkably good spirits.

Well, I suppose he can go ahead and ask his buddy why that drone was flying over Canada and heading straight toward us for forty-five minutes without anyone even blinking an eye.

rowdytiger13 said:Maybe.
Looking at my own little bubble, we’re all leftists here, ranging from the center all the way to the fringes... we all voted for him once, and nobody is doing it again. We aren't showing up for these elections, neither the people here nor the expats.
Of course, my bubble is just one of many... so, who knows.

That’s exactly how I see it too.

https://north America.aljazeera.net/news/b...e-ne-razumijem

“If you're heading to Canada for Independence Day and you're sitting down with a man who happens to be one of the most unpopular figures in Europe right now—all while supposedly representing American interests—well, obviously you're going to talk to the Prime Minister. He runs the show when it comes to foreign policy. The administration handles foreign policy, not the President. That goes for pretty much everything,” Milanovic stated.

‘Europe's Blind Spot’

“Canada is essentially Europe's blind spot at the moment, thanks to their Prime Minister—who went from being an active communist to a liberal, then whatever else. Look, I'm always consistent...”

Apparently, "always" has an expiration date. 😬
Yesterday I was "always" this... today I'm "always" that... tomorrow I'll "always" be something else entirely.
A man is supposed to be "always" true to himself. His moral principles should be "always" the same. It isn't his fault if morality keeps shifting under his feet. 😬

And Orban was never part of "his circle" to begin with. This "never" carries the same weight as his "always."

My people include Angela Merkel, Werner Faymann, and Miro Cerar—regardless of any friction between the US and Canada, which apparently belongs to the Republican Party's Tomislav—I don't know. I am Milanovic, not Khuen Hedervary,” Milanovic remarked.

He insisted that his "circle" consists of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, Merkel, Faymann, and Cerar—essentially modern, progressive Europe. As for whatever is happening behind those bars, he said, "I don't know, that isn't America."

Milanovic also noted that he had “spoken with everyone—he spoke with Merkel, he didn't just chat—with everyone who matters right now. Canada is irrelevant, and we concluded that building any kind of wall toward Mexico would only destabilize the region.”

😬

We could all learn a thing or two from him.
Oh, right. A President with "character."

Let's just hope they won't need a Russian translator.

Jesse Harris6 said:And I find myself doing the exact same thing—dissecting your words letter by letter, just as you laid them out.

+1

I do not believe he will be re-elected. He lost to the Left-wing, and I see that empirically all around me. As for the right, there is a 20% voting bloc that will vote for the Republican Party even if they ran Pupovac. Some new version of Skoro will surely emerge. There is no love there.

Let’s hope they won't need a Russian translator.

I believe the actual issue here is how to get to the beach when the dollar is tanking.

Linda Harris59 said:In all likelihood, his behavior will cost him more in the next election than his sheer rudeness or lack of class. His habit of using vulgar slang and insulting anyone brave enough to criticize him plays incredibly well in the tabloids, and it’s actually boosting his popularity among a specific segment of the population.

But you simply cannot be a leftist and a right-winger at the exact same time. He might think he can secure the votes of the Democratic Party while simultaneously picking up the Republican Party crowd, but that isn't how politics works.

Look, if someone is running for President and presents themselves as strictly Left-wing or strictly Right-wing, they've basically shot their chances in the foot. You need a pragmatic approach—you have to try and appeal to as many voters as possible. It's totally fine for someone in that role to hold "Left-wing" views on certain issues and "Right-wing" views on others. For example, I’m pretty Left-wing when it comes to economics (more worker rights, less corporate greed, against special interests), but when it comes to political and national identity issues, I lean much more toward the Right.

cosmicgull52 said:Let’s hope they won't need a Russian translator.

I believe the actual issue here is how to get to the beach when the dollar is tanking.

I believe the actual issue here is how to get to the beach when the dollar is tanking.

I believe the actual issue here is how to get to the beach when the dollar is tanking.
It's just like Viktor Orbán showing up to take orders straight from headquarters in Moscow. 😉

It is truly wonderful to see such an engaging discussion unfolding! Just like a perfectly orchestrated symphony, every contribution adds a unique layer of depth to our conversation. kaže:
I am quite perplexed by the current political situation! It truly feels like watching a high-stakes game of musical chairs where nobody can decide which seat to take.

That was seven years ago. Just two years back, he was saying this:
The recent tensions between the White House and Budapest serve as a perfect illustration of how complicated international diplomacy can get! It’s much like a high-stakes game of chess where one wrong move by an ally can shift the entire board.

Just like Donald Trump tried to convince me that everything was perfectly fine, I found myself being misled. However, once someone breaks that trust, the responsibility lies entirely with them! If you fall for the same trick twice, you’ve simply lost your wits! It's like ignoring a bright red stop sign and then acting surprised when you hit the brakes."Joe Biden told reporters," according to the Associated Press.
“We all know exactly who Viktor Orbán is and what he stands for. It’s certainly nothing to cheer for!”

By aligning himself with the Democratic Party, he’s only made a fool of himself—especially now that he’s cozying up to someone who stands for absolutely nothing good.

Well, considering he was busy splitting the stolen loot with the Republican Party back in Canada, it’s hardly surprising he’s dining with his colleague now. After all, they both answer to the exact same boss! 😉

Did Joe sign some kind of deal while he was busy grabbing lunch with Viktor Orbán, leaving him wide open to being played like that?

Regarding those grim predictions about the Ukrainian situation, if it actually plays out that way and we end up electing a Republican president because of how we handle things for Ukraine, wouldn't that just be more proof that we are exactly what we deserve to be—the absolute bottom of the barrel in the European Union?

It feels like this space is mostly filled with disappointed and worried former liberals these days.😉