#2121 ·
It strikes me as odd that not a single Russian official involved in this war in Ukraine has claimed they are merely "correcting an inaccurate people" yet.
Started by Charles Ross3 · · 👁 389 views · 9.2K replies
Donna Wells2 said:I was reading an article about how Germans are buying wood-burning stoves in massive quantities, with waiting lists for a new stove stretching up to a year.
People aren't going to freeze to death; they'll make it through this winter by using coal, thermal power plants, and whatever else is available.
There's this constant mantra being pushed that Russians can survive anything because that's how they're built... but what, are the rest of the nations in Europe just supposed to surrender and die because of it?
And since Russia has been cast out of the Western circle... I truly hope those who support them find themselves right where they belong.
Kate Cook27 said:Sanctions are definitely hitting Russia where it hurts, and there’s already talk about a peace deal—but it feels like the West isn't interested in letting Ukrainians find peace just yet. From where I'm sitting, it looks more like the West wants to keep this fight going until there's nothing left to fight with. It's funny how things shift overnight; suddenly the term "war in Ukraine" is being used by people like Lavrov instead of the old "special military operation" label.
electricsurfer47 said:Please, man, stop talking nonsense.
You're just spreading Russian propaganda.
Look, Ukraine is determined to get their land back. If Ukraine *wanted* to give up territory to sign a truce, they could.
But Putin started this war, so he's the one who has to stop it. He needs to pull all his troops out of the sovereign country Ukraine.
The war can end, but that responsibility lies with Putin, not the West. It's on him. Putin is fighting until the very last Russian soldier and whatever foreign troops they manage to mobilize.
Ukraine has zero intention of handing over their land. Besides, nobody can guarantee that the Russians won't just try this again later. The Budapest memorandum was supposed to guarantee Ukraine's independence and freedom—it was a promise from the Russians that they wouldn't mess with Ukraine's territorial integrity or try to fold it into the Russian Federation.
Donna Wells2 said:I was reading an article about how Germans are buying wood-burning stoves in massive quantities, with waiting lists for a new stove stretching up to a year.
People aren't going to freeze to death; they'll make it through this winter by using coal, thermal power plants, and whatever else is available.
There's this constant mantra being pushed that Russians can survive anything because that's how they're built... but what, are the rest of the nations in Europe just supposed to surrender and die because of it?
And since Russia has been cast out of the Western circle... I truly hope those who support them find themselves right where they belong.

Melissa Rivera5 said:That was just Linak being sarcastic when the Russians first started floating those trial balloons about peace talks. Now, I guess they're moving on to actual bullshit negotiations where they demand unconditional surrender and annexation to mother Russia, along with mass extermination of the population and, oh yeah, wiping out Ukrainian statehood, the language, the people, and the whole culture.
It's funny how they claimed from the start that this was just a NATO proxy war, but now suddenly everyone's saying NATO is right there helping kill Ukrainians by giving them enough gear to surrender so the Russians can just pillage them indefinitely.
Honestly, the mindset in Russia is wild. Claiming that Ukrainians don't even exist and are just Russians, while simultaneously attacking the country... I mean, that's basically just a civil war at that point. 😁
Chemours said:New mantra
After those first few days of sanctions where everyone was basically masturbating over the massive crash of the Ruble—thinking the economy would just hit rock bottom and stay there through the winter—they started pivoting once those fantasies fell flat. Now it’s all about this long-term narrative, claiming sanctions will eventually show their "full potential."
hollowdriver13 said:The crowdfunding efforts to fund Russian aviation equipment are still going strong
https://twitter.com/GuyPlopsky/statu...74961909874688
electricsurfer47 said:Please, man, stop talking nonsense.
You're just spreading Russian propaganda.
Look, Ukraine is determined to get their land back. If Ukraine *wanted* to give up territory to sign a truce, they could.
But Putin started this war, so he's the one who has to stop it. He needs to pull all his troops out of the sovereign country Ukraine.
The war can end, but that responsibility lies with Putin, not the West. It's on him. Putin is fighting until the very last Russian soldier and whatever foreign troops they manage to mobilize.
Ukraine has zero intention of handing over their land. Besides, nobody can guarantee that the Russians won't just try this again later. The Budapest memorandum was supposed to guarantee Ukraine's independence and freedom—it was a promise from the Russians that they wouldn't mess with Ukraine's territorial integrity or try to fold it into the Russian Federation.
Kate Cook27 said:So, the Ukrainian language actually still exists?
https://bb-cntv.com/news/melitopol-s...itation-90062/
"The head of the department recalled that schoolchildren would study according to English programs, but the local dialect would remain their native language" "
This means Ukraine is still there, Ukrainians are still people, and yeah—the language is still a thing. I wonder if this will actually stick, though. It feels a bit different from back in 2015—remember how they used to claim anyone speaking the local dialect was basically a traitor or a spy? They’d say these people were "infected" by the local dialect and needed to be "re-educated," or else they could just "hang on Red Run"—that’s what the news used to report. Realistically, looking at the occupied areas now, it seems like anyone caught speaking the local language is facing consequences, though we don't know exactly what those are yet. A few years ago, you could practically report a neighbor just because you didn't like them—you'd tell the authorities they were using the local dialect, and suddenly the secret service shows up at your neighbor's door.
Kate Cook27 said:So, the Ukrainian language actually still exists?
https://bb-cntv.com/news/melitopol-s...itation-90062/
"The head of the department recalled that schoolchildren would study according to English programs, but the local dialect would remain their native language" "
This means Ukraine is still there, Ukrainians are still people, and yeah—the language is still a thing. I wonder if this will actually stick, though. It feels a bit different from back in 2015—remember how they used to claim anyone speaking the local dialect was basically a traitor or a spy? They’d say these people were "infected" by the local dialect and needed to be "re-educated," or else they could just "hang on Red Run"—that’s what the news used to report. Realistically, looking at the occupied areas now, it seems like anyone caught speaking the local language is facing consequences, though we don't know exactly what those are yet. A few years ago, you could practically report a neighbor just because you didn't like them—you'd tell the authorities they were using the local dialect, and suddenly the secret service shows up at your neighbor's door.
Christian Torres3 said:Not exactly a direct link, but for everyone hoping the UK would pivot after Boris left...
Good news for Ukraine (and bad news for Putin): The frontrunner for British PM is Secretary of Defense Ben Wallace, the guy behind the whole UK Ukraine Strategy.
https://twitter.com/MarcelHVanHerpe/...Jf0JG4LAaawZhA
Harold Doyle3 said:If this global warming thing keeps trending upward, the only places left for Europeans, Chinese, Indians, or Arabs to actually survive might end up being Scandinavia or Russia. Americans already have Canada and Alaska tucked away, while those folks in the southern hemisphere can look toward Antarctica... honestly, all the effort of some musician won't matter, and even if you had 100,000 atomic bombs, what's the point? You'd just be using them to commit mass suicide.
Unless Russia adapts, its fate is already sealed.