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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#261 ·
The brave Kazakh president is suddenly becoming persona non grata in the pro-establishment media outlets.
A traitor to the great ☕
Except, they can't seem to specify WHAT or WHOM exactly he betrayed 😂
I’m just sitting here impatiently waiting for that bearded guy Luke to show up with the transcript of that secret phone call between Nika and Mother from Warsaw and London; then, and only then, will we finally get to the heart of this whole nonsense.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
291 messages
joined Jan 2021
#262 ·
Lukashenko is basically Putin's ride-or-die at this point, isn't he? Anyway, does anyone actually know if Belarus has officially recognized the DNR and LNR yet?
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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joined Mar 2012
#263 ·
I’m not entirely sure where to land on this, but apparently Lukashenko is out there claiming he won't sit idly by while Poland occupies western Ukraine—he's even suggesting the Ukrainians might step in to help. 🤔
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#264 ·
Andrew Booth29 said:I’m not entirely sure where to land on this, but apparently Lukashenko is out there claiming he won't sit idly by while Poland occupies western Ukraine—he's even suggesting the Ukrainians might step in to help. 🤔

The Russians are running with this narrative in their media right now, spinning this whole tale that Poland, backed by the USA, is gearing up to invade and annex western Ukraine, while Lukashenko supposedly plays the hero trying to protect Ukraine's borders.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#265 ·
gentlerider7 said:The Russians are running with this narrative in their media right now, spinning this whole tale that Poland, backed by the USA, is gearing up to invade and annex western Ukraine, while Lukashenko supposedly plays the hero trying to protect Ukraine's borders.

Luke is just waiting for the dust to settle so he can jump ship to whichever side comes out on top.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#266 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Luke is just waiting for the dust to settle so he can jump ship to whichever side comes out on top.

You know, on American TV, whenever Lukashenko starts talking, they’ll pull that classic move where they label him as some "self-proclaimed president of Belarus" or say he's just "considered the leader of Belarus."
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
214 messages
joined Sep 2008
#267 ·
Here are some photos of a trash can... my apologies... for donating socks, boxer shorts, canned meat, and pasta to the "liberators of the Donbas."

THIS ISN'T A JOKE, IT'S THE ACTUAL REALITY IN Moscow!!!
The second most powerful military force on the planet... isn't there much more to say? 🤦
Back home, we have a way of saying you don't need to prove a statement is true 😂
hiddennomad34 hiddennomad34 Newcomer
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#268 ·
Andrew Booth29 said:I’m not entirely sure where to land on this, but apparently Lukashenko is out there claiming he won't sit idly by while Poland occupies western Ukraine—he's even suggesting the Ukrainians might step in to help. 🤔


Where on earth are you getting this idea that Poland wants a piece of Ukraine?!?
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#269 ·
hiddennomad34 said:Where on earth are you getting this idea that Poland wants a piece of Ukraine?!?

Russian disinformation
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#270 ·
Some great news here

Great News : Yuliia "Taira" Paievska was released from russian captivity. She’s a legendary volunteer and medic who's been out there saving lives in the Donbas for eight years.
They grabbed her back on March 15th.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...u8mbRYdIyTEVLA
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#271 ·
It’s funny how some people dream up their own wishful thinking.

Back in 2008, Putin tried to pitch a deal to partition Ukraine, but he just got shut down. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-u...0I925D20141021
Andrew Booth29 Andrew Booth29 Regular
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#272 ·
slyfox43 said:It’s funny how some people dream up their own wishful thinking.

Back in 2008, Putin tried to pitch a deal to partition Ukraine, but he just got shut down. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-u...0I925D20141021

Those Poles are pure evil. Thank God Ukraine has such "friends" like Russia and Belarus... I hear the Russians are already sending troops into Western Ukraine just to stop the Poles.
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active Member
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#273 ·
Here we go again—Konasenkov is back at it today, preaching about high-precision weaponry. 😬 🤦
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#274 ·
Frank Moore4 said:Here we go again—Konasenkov is back at it today, preaching about high-precision weaponry. 😬 🤦

Calling him an expert on Call of Duty? I can't say anyone actually tunes in to listen to that guy.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#275 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Luke is just waiting for the dust to settle so he can jump ship to whichever side comes out on top.

If someone could actually guarantee him he’d stay in power, he’d make that move in a heartbeat. Right now? Not so much. But that's the thing about a democracy—there are no such guarantees. You have to actually fight the fight. You have to sweat, grind, and outmaneuver the opposition at the ballot box. For a man like him, that kind of fair, level playing field is fundamentally unacceptable. He can't stomach a legitimate political struggle.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#276 ·
gentlerider7 said:The Russians are running with this narrative in their media right now, spinning this whole tale that Poland, backed by the USA, is gearing up to invade and annex western Ukraine, while Lukashenko supposedly plays the hero trying to protect Ukraine's borders.

We should probably start logging these "arguments" alongside the dates they were uttered. It’s a predictable cycle. First, it was denying that Ukraine or Ukrainians even exist as a nation. Then came "denazification." Next, it was stopping the expansion of NATO. Then they pivoted to protecting the Russian language and those helpless, defenseless people in Ukraine. Then came the supposed biological threats—claims that they're developing bio-weapons. We've seen the talk about restoring the USSR, the theft of borscht, and now, preventing a Polish occupation of western Ukraine. If anyone remembers any other "justifications" for this "special operation," please, feel free to add them to the list. If they had just picked one single excuse and stuck to it, they might actually carry some weight. They won't ever mention a real motive. What they're doing is utterly farcical; it’s starting to look like a bad joke. It would be funny if it weren't so grim, considering people are dying on both sides every single day because of a few unserious fools sitting in the White House.
James Phillips92 James Phillips92 Active Member
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#277 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:If someone could actually guarantee him he’d stay in power, he’d make that move in a heartbeat. Right now? Not so much. But that's the thing about a democracy—there are no such guarantees. You have to actually fight the fight. You have to sweat, grind, and outmaneuver the opposition at the ballot box. For a man like him, that kind of fair, level playing field is fundamentally unacceptable. He can't stomach a legitimate political struggle.

He'll end up losing his grip on power just like Ceaușescu did back in the day.
placidtiger142 placidtiger142 Member
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#278 ·
Look, we all know what the real issues are here: oil, gas, and everything else under the dirt.

Russ wants to become the world's top energy superpower because they just can't compete economically or militarily anymore.

They might be #1 on territory, and maybe even on energy resources too, so they’re playing that specific card.

It's like, sure, go ahead and be the greatest carpenter on the planet with the fanciest tools, but I'm the one who actually owns all the wood.

Anyway, this whole gas situation could get seriously ugly.

I honestly think the EU has totally underestimated the Russian thoroughbred in this race—specifically when it comes to gas and oil.

Winter is coming, and if they really decide to turn off the tap, the EU could completely fall apart. We're talking full-blown internal chaos.

Let's try to actually wrap our heads around what would happen if they just shut it all down.

The entire EU industrial sector would collapse. Maybe like 50% of people over there would end up unemployed, freezing their asses off. People would start doing crazy stuff. Stealing, looting, whatever it takes just to survive.

Unfortunately, the EU is living in a dream world if they think they can just swap out those Russian energy supplies in a year or two... And it isn't just about gas and oil that they're hooked on. Fertilizers, steel... you name it.

But hey, let's hear it—what's your scenario if they actually cut the supply?

To me, it looks like that would absolutely bring Europe to its knees. You only see real unity in an alliance once the dark days actually hit.

It's easy to play at being united and solid while Ukraine is getting hammered and we're all sitting pretty, eating gourmet food, driving our shiny new cars, hitting the beach or the slopes, and messing around with Bitcoin because we don't know what else to do.

I'd love to see that "unity" when Germany has to shutter Siemens, Daimler, and VW... or when the French and Italians have to shut down their factories because, well, there's no heat and nothing else that runs on gas.

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gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#279 ·
placidtiger142 said:Look, we all know what the real issues are here: oil, gas, and everything else under the dirt.

Russ wants to become the world's top energy superpower because they just can't compete economically or militarily anymore.

They might be #1 on territory, and maybe even on energy resources too, so they’re playing that specific card.

It's like, sure, go ahead and be the greatest carpenter on the planet with the fanciest tools, but I'm the one who actually owns all the wood.

Anyway, this whole gas situation could get seriously ugly.

I honestly think the EU has totally underestimated the Russian thoroughbred in this race—specifically when it comes to gas and oil.

Winter is coming, and if they really decide to turn off the tap, the EU could completely fall apart. We're talking full-blown internal chaos.

Let's try to actually wrap our heads around what would happen if they just shut it all down.

The entire EU industrial sector would collapse. Maybe like 50% of people over there would end up unemployed, freezing their asses off. People would start doing crazy stuff. Stealing, looting, whatever it takes just to survive.

Unfortunately, the EU is living in a dream world if they think they can just swap out those Russian energy supplies in a year or two... And it isn't just about gas and oil that they're hooked on. Fertilizers, steel... you name it.

But hey, let's hear it—what's your scenario if they actually cut the supply?

To me, it looks like that would absolutely bring Europe to its knees. You only see real unity in an alliance once the dark days actually hit.

It's easy to play at being united and solid while Ukraine is getting hammered and we're all sitting pretty, eating gourmet food, driving our shiny new cars, hitting the beach or the slopes, and messing around with Bitcoin because we don't know what else to do.

I'd love to see that "unity" when Germany has to shutter Siemens, Daimler, and VW... or when the French and Italians have to shut down their factories because, well, there's no heat and nothing else that runs on gas.

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It’s the same old story from those doom-and-gloom prophets back in the spring of 2020. Honestly, America is a hell of a lot tougher than anyone's enemies want to admit.
Jack Hill2 Jack Hill2 Active Member
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#280 ·
placidtiger142 said:Look, we all know what the real issues are here: oil, gas, and everything else under the dirt.

Russ wants to become the world's top energy superpower because they just can't compete economically or militarily anymore.

They might be #1 on territory, and maybe even on energy resources too, so they’re playing that specific card.

It's like, sure, go ahead and be the greatest carpenter on the planet with the fanciest tools, but I'm the one who actually owns all the wood.

Anyway, this whole gas situation could get seriously ugly.

I honestly think the EU has totally underestimated the Russian thoroughbred in this race—specifically when it comes to gas and oil.

Winter is coming, and if they really decide to turn off the tap, the EU could completely fall apart. We're talking full-blown internal chaos.

Let's try to actually wrap our heads around what would happen if they just shut it all down.

The entire EU industrial sector would collapse. Maybe like 50% of people over there would end up unemployed, freezing their asses off. People would start doing crazy stuff. Stealing, looting, whatever it takes just to survive.

Unfortunately, the EU is living in a dream world if they think they can just swap out those Russian energy supplies in a year or two... And it isn't just about gas and oil that they're hooked on. Fertilizers, steel... you name it.

But hey, let's hear it—what's your scenario if they actually cut the supply?

To me, it looks like that would absolutely bring Europe to its knees. You only see real unity in an alliance once the dark days actually hit.

It's easy to play at being united and solid while Ukraine is getting hammered and we're all sitting pretty, eating gourmet food, driving our shiny new cars, hitting the beach or the slopes, and messing around with Bitcoin because we don't know what else to do.

I'd love to see that "unity" when Germany has to shutter Siemens, Daimler, and VW... or when the French and Italians have to shut down their factories because, well, there's no heat and nothing else that runs on gas.

Sent from my iPhone 13 using Reddit

62% of the gas doesn't come from Russia. The European Union will have no problem hitting at least 80% by ramping up production elsewhere—Norway, Africa, the Middle East—plus LNG tankers from the USA, Canada, and so on. There are also stockpiles...

So, even if Putin shuts off the tap, the European Union would, in the worst-case scenario, only be short about 10 percent.

Putin simply doesn't have enough aces up his sleeve. He'll end up looking like a clown.

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