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Sandra Harris2 said:I really hope Israel interprets this exactly that way.
☕ In the meantime...
Finland greets Russian tourists with the Ukrainian anthem
. I might just try wishing my noisy Russian neighbors goodnight the same way tonight...
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Sandra Harris2 said:I really hope Israel interprets this exactly that way.
☕ In the meantime...
Finland greets Russian tourists with the Ukrainian anthem
. I might just try wishing my noisy Russian neighbors goodnight the same way tonight...
🕺
Bradley White73 said:It’s disappointing to read, though I can’t say I’m surprised. I won’t bother commenting on how there isn't a single Hitler supporter in this thread; that would just be a waste of my breath. So, Sieg Heil to you. If you can't see the forest for the trees, there's really no point in talking.
Bradley White73 said:I missed them—Asia, Central and South America, along with Africa. But my first association was Africa (at least, that was mine).
Bradley White73 said:But you'll admit that for the average informed person, Europe and Asia aren't the first associations, and I assume that was taken into account.
Bradley White73 said:But you have to admit this virus came from Africa, from those monkeys, not from Japanese macaques! You're being a bit narrow-minded here, Sale; that’s how the WHO reasoned, and I get them—we aren't all biologists, and associations don't work that way. In America, the Sikhs were attacked because people identified them as Muslims based on their turbans, yet now you're trying to conduct a scientific study based solely on where certain monkeys live, as if anyone actually thinks that deeply about it. 🐔
bluecyclist64 said:And you know, what actually disappoints me is that when I offered a greeting so dear to your heart, you didn't respond to "Slava Ukraini" with "death to fascism."
Fine, I'll admit I started typing "Heil Hitler" because that's the original version of the Ukrainian greeting, but I stopped myself in time once I realized that you, Bubimir, Papagaj, and several others still don't grasp that "Heil Hitler," "Slava Ukraini," and "for home" are all essentially the same thing—just different packaging.
If the Stepan Bandera whom Ukrainians celebrate was a hero and a patriot, then the same logic applies to Hitler, Mussolini, Pavelić, Mihajlović, and the Quisling types.
Honestly, this way of (not) thinking is foreign to me; whether it disappoints you or not is secondary.
Well, at least you don't have to explain why you find nothing wrong with a Nazi salute; the initial association is what matters, and we can just let the facts hang by a thread.
Instead of "the average informed person," we could comfortably write "an empty-headed ignoramus caught up in Western propaganda."
Look, you might find yourself quite comfortable in a world that’s increasingly bending its knee to the shallow and the uninformed, but for me, there’s a profound sadness in watching education and genuine intelligence be treated as liabilities rather than virtues. And no, I don't mean the issue of someone from the LGBTQ+ community feeling slighted because they identify as a transgender binary queer chimpanzee. My apologies—a transgender binary queer person with chimpanzee traits...
Bradley White73 said:Bandera is a Nazi quisling, and honestly, Slava Ukraini is ZDS or HH; I really don't care, it's not like I'm particularly attached to that specific greeting.
What I actually have an issue with is when people try to delegitimize the Ukrainian people's resistance to aggression just because of Azov, Slava Ukraini, or Bandera. There's this attempt to focus exclusively on that. Meanwhile, fascism isn't acknowledged, the genocidal ideas that triggered this aren't recognized, and there's no mention of the Nazi and Islamist paramilitary trash that was sent to kill and loot across Ukraine, or sent specifically to assassinate the Ukrainian president.
Tens of thousands of people have fled to become refugees since the anti-imperialist Vozd began his de-nazification. It’s interesting how, until then, Ukraine—with all its bloodthirsty ultra-nationalists—was apparently a pretty pleasant place to live. Besides, most of those people already had the right to leave for Israel, a wealthy and advanced country, where they could have gotten citizenship immediately. Clearly, things weren't *that* bad, so that speaks volumes to me. Actually, it tells me more about Ukraine than you telling me about Bandera and Azov over and over again—all while these maniacs are leveling cities and shelling nuclear plants, which, from what I can see, doesn't bother you much.
And it's just great when, as an "antidote" to so-called Western propaganda, I'm offered meaningless anti-Western propaganda (mostly anti-USA). Every organized society on any corner of the planet is influenced by its own version of propaganda; I guess the folks on Sentinel are the only ones truly free in body and soul. But wherever there is a state, there is propaganda. The West only differs because it reached a level of development where it can serve it up in cellophane, without using force. And when I see all the black holes scattered across the planet, I'm actually grateful for that.
btw, manchild, Oz was a great show to me.
Bradley White73 said:Bandera is a Nazi quisling, and honestly, Slava Ukraini is ZDS or HH; I really don't care, it's not like I'm particularly attached to that specific greeting.
What I actually have an issue with is when people try to delegitimize the Ukrainian people's resistance to aggression just because of Azov, Slava Ukraini, or Bandera. There's this attempt to focus exclusively on that. Meanwhile, fascism isn't acknowledged, the genocidal ideas that triggered this aren't recognized, and there's no mention of the Nazi and Islamist paramilitary trash that was sent to kill and loot across Ukraine, or sent specifically to assassinate the Ukrainian president.
Tens of thousands of people have fled to become refugees since the anti-imperialist Vozd began his de-nazification. It’s interesting how, until then, Ukraine—with all its bloodthirsty ultra-nationalists—was apparently a pretty pleasant place to live. Besides, most of those people already had the right to leave for Israel, a wealthy and advanced country, where they could have gotten citizenship immediately. Clearly, things weren't *that* bad, so that speaks volumes to me. Actually, it tells me more about Ukraine than you telling me about Bandera and Azov over and over again—all while these maniacs are leveling cities and shelling nuclear plants, which, from what I can see, doesn't bother you much.
And it's just great when, as an "antidote" to so-called Western propaganda, I'm offered meaningless anti-Western propaganda (mostly anti-USA). Every organized society on any corner of the planet is influenced by its own version of propaganda; I guess the folks on Sentinel are the only ones truly free in body and soul. But wherever there is a state, there is propaganda. The West only differs because it reached a level of development where it can serve it up in cellophane, without using force. And when I see all the black holes scattered across the planet, I'm actually grateful for that.
btw, manchild, Oz was a great show to me.
Christian Torres3 said:Another Russian soldier heading back home. I bet he’s not going to be a fan of drones. A friend of his showed some serious selfless grit helping out a wounded comrade.
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status...XCAKR_cNPGNB9g
darkcyclist92 said:Everything about this would be incredibly badass if they just dropped a more substantial payload instead of those pathetic little things they’re tossing out. Honestly, even a standard Kinder Egg would be a massive win at this point.
God, you’d practically need to fall on your face to make that ammonia mess cause any real damage. All the prep work and drone-potato aiming is fine and all, but the final result is basically just a fart.
But hey, at least it isn't too extreme, probably fits within that +12 restricted audience rating. 😁
crimsoncyclist71 said:The Russian madness is escalating. Now they’re actually trying to convince Russian citizens that the West is seeking revenge for historical defeats at Poltava (1709), Borodino (1812), and Stalingrad (1942-43). 🤦
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...UAbb3xgnYjYrcw
I honestly can't wrap my head around the mindset required to support the absolute insanity coming from the ruling mafia in Russia. 🤦
Christian Torres3 said:Actually, about a week after Borodino, Napoleon took over Moscow, so it’s not like the Americans won right then.
crimsoncyclist71 said:The Russian madness is escalating. Now they’re actually trying to convince Russian citizens that the West is seeking revenge for historical defeats at Poltava (1709), Borodino (1812), and Stalingrad (1942-43). 🤦
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...UAbb3xgnYjYrcw
I honestly can't wrap my head around the mindset required to support the absolute insanity coming from the ruling mafia in Russia. 🤦
bluecyclist64 said:And you know, what actually disappoints me is that when I offered a greeting so dear to your heart, you didn't respond to "Slava Ukraini" with "death to fascism."
Fine, I'll admit I started typing "Heil Hitler" because that's the original version of the Ukrainian greeting, but I stopped myself in time once I realized that you, Bubimir, Papagaj, and several others still don't grasp that "Heil Hitler," "Slava Ukraini," and "for home" are all essentially the same thing—just different packaging.
If the Stepan Bandera whom Ukrainians celebrate was a hero and a patriot, then the same logic applies to Hitler, Mussolini, Pavelić, Mihajlović, and the Quisling types.
Honestly, this way of (not) thinking is foreign to me; whether it disappoints you or not is secondary.
Well, at least you don't have to explain why you find nothing wrong with a Nazi salute; the initial association is what matters, and we can just let the facts hang by a thread.
Instead of "the average informed person," we could comfortably write "an empty-headed ignoramus caught up in Western propaganda."
Look, you might find yourself quite comfortable in a world that’s increasingly bending its knee to the shallow and the uninformed, but for me, there’s a profound sadness in watching education and genuine intelligence be treated as liabilities rather than virtues. And no, I don't mean the issue of someone from the LGBTQ+ community feeling slighted because they identify as a transgender binary queer chimpanzee. My apologies—a transgender binary queer person with chimpanzee traits...
Nancy Gomez26 said:It’s that classic military history scenario where the Russians set their own city on fire—simply because they had nothing left to loot and nowhere else to retreat to. It’s a grim situation when you find yourself deep within enemy territory—logistically speaking, even more impossible by modern standards than it was back then—and there's no local "supply chain" to lean on.
Kate Lewis3 said:It’s pretty much like those delusions held by people obsessed with the old American era, thinking the partisans were some massive factor in breaking the Axis powers—it's just a way to give themselves a sense of importance.
In reality, before the UK could even think about blaming Moscow for holding the ladder for Adolf Hitler while London was being leveled by the Luftwaffe, it was the defeat at Stalingrad that really did the job.
And all of Russia's neighbors helping Ukraine? Their only real motive is making sure they never get pushed back under the thumb of the oppression Moscow has been forcing on them for decades.
Terry Green3 said:They essentially won by inflicting specific losses that the opponent, as you noted, couldn't easily replace due to logistical constraints.
Historically, whenever Russia faces a stronger adversary, they lean on a war of attrition, thanks to their sheer scale. In the end, it all comes down to the body count.
Honestly, the Russians would be better off comparing this situation to the Winter War, the Persian War, or even the more recent Georgian War.
That's the real comparison here.
Nancy Gomez26 said:It isn’t about some neighborly grudge or revenge for the old days under the USSR. It is far more primal than that. What we are seeing is raw, naked fear—a deep-seated terror of an era defined by renewed oppression and the total erosion of sovereignty. Having felt the weight of that boot in the past, they view the current fight for Ukrainian freedom through a very specific lens: they see a situation where they truly have nothing left to lose. For small nations, like those in the Baltics, the prospect of living under Putin's heel isn't just a political shift; it would likely mean the end of their existence as a people. Not just the collapse of a government, but the absolute erasure of the nation itself.
