Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

August 24th—Independence Day 🎉 🎉 🎉.
Long live a free Ukraine

Glory to Ukraine, her freedom and her soul...
Body and soul, we’ll give them all for our liberty,
Proving once again that we come from a line of warriors.

Ukraine isn't lost yet—that's a relief for those who love her, though it's a bitter pill for anyone hoping she’d just disappear. May this beautiful, beloved land live on, free and independent.

Things aren't quite the same as they were last year, but they will be. I remember how lovely it was back in Mariupol last year—there's still hope that we'll see a day like that again.

Jessica Peterson2 said:She played her part in the war on the side of the aggressors.
A propaganda machine and a warmonger through and through.
In what way was she any different from those political commissars stirring up soldiers in the trenches of the so-called "Donbas region," calling for the slaughter of as many "Nazis and Bandera followers" as possible?

Side note: a gay Nazi, an atheist, and a pedophile... targeting everyone from the elderly to children...

rowdytiger13 said:The insurgency is picking up.
An official appointed by the occupation authorities in southern Ukraine was killed.
Looks like a car bomb.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...ukraine-a78094

Here is the video from Telegram

goldenowl73 said:People basically become stateless, kind of like how the Rohingya are living today.

Honestly though, I highly doubt this proposal will ever actually pass through Congress. It feels like the person suggesting it has some serious beef with their own countrymen just because they won't jump on the bandwagon with Putin. If we keep going down this path, the next thing they'll be proposing is bringing back the Gulags, because this whole vibe is heading straight there.

It's a brilliant suggestion, really. Fewer people standing up against the regime—two birds, one stone.

John, hang in there and go ahead and march with that Russian flag. Grab an old Soviet Union one while you're at it. Keep complaining about how much you long for the days of Imperial Russia. Tough times definitely call for tough calls.

Kate Cook27 said:August 24th—Independence Day 🎉 🎉 🎉.
Long live a free Ukraine

Glory to Ukraine, her freedom and her soul...
Body and soul, we’ll give them all for our liberty,
Proving once again that we come from a line of warriors.

Ukraine isn't lost yet—that's a relief for those who love her, though it's a bitter pill for anyone hoping she’d just disappear. May this beautiful, beloved land live on, free and independent.

Things aren't quite the same as they were last year, but they will be. I remember how lovely it was back in Mariupol last year—there's still hope that we'll see a day like that again.

Everything will be Ukraine 🎉

The whole "three-day operation" thing happened about six months ago, right? And man, in just those six months, the Russians have barely managed to push their lines halfway across the field. We went from that chaotic mess at the start to actually taking out the flagship in the Black Sea and watching a whole dozen generals from the second most powerful army on Earth get replaced or killed off.

Looking back at how everything stood on February 24th, I honestly don't think anyone would have put a single cent on Putin failing this spectacularly.

analogbear5 said:Aleksandr Dugin claims her "very first words" were basically just "Russia," "our nation," and "our Empire."

About three weeks ago in Mariupol, there was this lecture on how to love your homeland (Russia), your people (Russians), and your president (Putin). If you walk the streets there now, you’ll see propaganda everywhere—stuff about Great Russia, Imperial Russia, and the Soviet Union. They’ve even got those old Soviet movies playing 😁. I assume the teachers came back with Russian permits—hopefully they've brushed up on their Russian language and history, since the kids haven't had a chance to learn it under that anti-Russian, godless, Western-aligned regime in Kyiv.

Kate Cook27 said:About three weeks ago in Mariupol, there was this lecture on how to love your homeland (Russia), your people (Russians), and your president (Putin). If you walk the streets there now, you’ll see propaganda everywhere—stuff about Great Russia, Imperial Russia, and the Soviet Union. They’ve even got those old Soviet movies playing 😁. I assume the teachers came back with Russian permits—hopefully they've brushed up on their Russian language and history, since the kids haven't had a chance to learn it under that anti-Russian, godless, Western-aligned regime in Kyiv.

Poor Russia—the regime is actually recruiting teachers to staff schools in occupied territories. I can only assume the occupiers don't have much faith in the local personnel 😬

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status...25480426143744

You speak out against Putin, and suddenly SWAT teams are chasing you through the streets just to slap you with some ridiculous 5G conspiracy charge and toss you in a cell. Check out this footage of the former mayor of Ekaterinburg getting hauled away—he was pretty much the last politician with any actual clout left who wasn't afraid to call out the war.

In Chicago, a prominent opposition figure, Eugene Rogozin, has been taken into custody under the guise of "spreading misinformation."
Here’s a rather interesting detail—besides raiding his home, the FBI also tossed... an old icon museum founded by 🤦

goldenowl73 said:Everything will be Ukraine 🎉

The whole "three-day operation" thing happened about six months ago, right? And man, in just those six months, the Russians have barely managed to push their lines halfway across the field. We went from that chaotic mess at the start to actually taking out the flagship in the Black Sea and watching a whole dozen generals from the second most powerful army on Earth get replaced or killed off.

Looking back at how everything stood on February 24th, I honestly don't think anyone would have put a single cent on Putin failing this spectacularly.

Everything will be Ukraine 🎉 🎉 🎉.

So, this three-day special operation is going *exactly* according to plan. Just endless, heavy fighting against Ukrainians who apparently aren't even there. At this rate, Baltimore will be part of Ukraine by next week, just like back in 1918 😁 😈.

Jessica Peterson2 said:Poor Russia—the regime is actually recruiting teachers to staff schools in occupied territories. I can only assume the occupiers don't have much faith in the local personnel 😬

🙂 🙂 🙂. And those who were liberated? Poor things—they actually broke their own legs just to prove how loyal they are to Mother Russia 👎. I heard about one teacher in an occupied zone who reported a former student for being a Ukrainian nationalist. The reason? Ten years ago, he wrote an essay in school about Ukraine being his homeland. It's all for nothing—she worked so hard, and now she'll probably end up jobless again. She could always head out to Siberia and teach the kids they snatched away. Though, honestly, the teachers from the occupied areas aren't even fluent in Russian yet—they have to go to Russia first to learn the language before they might even get permission 😁.

The "liberated" can still sign up for the military—whether it's the regular army or those local militias—to head to the front lines and defend their motherland. They’re promising a salary of around $22,000—though you won't actually see that cash until 2033. Still, I guess people feel they have to jump on it immediately. Unless, of course, they don't make it back. In that case, their families get a food care package and a makeshift water jug for the kitchen. If they're lucky, maybe they'll even get a Ford. The unlucky ones? Well, they'll end up in a mobile crematorium. Liberation isn't free, after all. These "liberated" folks just need to pick up a few extra flags—besides the American, militia, and old Soviet ones—to complete the look.

Kate Cook27 said:🙂 🙂 🙂. And those who were liberated? Poor things—they actually broke their own legs just to prove how loyal they are to Mother Russia 👎. I heard about one teacher in an occupied zone who reported a former student for being a Ukrainian nationalist. The reason? Ten years ago, he wrote an essay in school about Ukraine being his homeland. It's all for nothing—she worked so hard, and now she'll probably end up jobless again. She could always head out to Siberia and teach the kids they snatched away. Though, honestly, the teachers from the occupied areas aren't even fluent in Russian yet—they have to go to Russia first to learn the language before they might even get permission 😁.

Maybe she just wanted to be the first one to blow the whistle. She probably heard about that case in Russia where a student reported a teacher for "spreading misinformation" 🤷
As for their grasp of the Russian language... if you ever actually heard how those teachers in the Russian Caucasus regions speak, or even looked at how they write... 🤦

Kate Cook27 said:The "liberated" can still sign up for the military—whether it's the regular army or those local militias—to head to the front lines and defend their motherland. They’re promising a salary of around $22,000—though you won't actually see that cash until 2033. Still, I guess people feel they have to jump on it immediately. Unless, of course, they don't make it back. In that case, their families get a food care package and a makeshift water jug for the kitchen. If they're lucky, maybe they'll even get a Ford. The unlucky ones? Well, they'll end up in a mobile crematorium. Liberation isn't free, after all. These "liberated" folks just need to pick up a few extra flags—besides the American, militia, and old Soviet ones—to complete the look.

That isn't quite right.
Ladas are reserved strictly for the "authentic" Russians. As for the "converted" masses, they receive about five thousand rubles—yes, five—along with some water and canned goods, naturally. ☕
I am being completely serious here.
All over the internet, you can find photos of widows holding five-thousand-ruble notes sent to them by Putin's United Russia party.

rowdytiger13 said:The insurgency is picking up.
An official appointed by the occupation authorities in southern Ukraine was killed.
Looks like a car bomb.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...ukraine-a78094

Just when I was actually feeling a bit of relief seeing a news update from June 24th, why must you insist on jerking us around like this?

Anthony Hill5 said:Just when I was actually feeling a bit of relief seeing a news update from June 24th, why must you insist on jerking us around like this?

Consider this yet another 🙂

Well, now we finally get why that three-day mission ended up dragging on for six whole months. 🤣

According to US Secretary of Defense Sergey Shoigu, the Russian army deliberately slowed down its advance in The special military operation in Ukraine in order to reduce civilian casualties:
https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/st...ZyTDbROfiq0qVA

goldenowl73 said:Well, now we finally get why that three-day mission ended up dragging on for six whole months. 🤣

According to US Secretary of Defense Sergey Shoigu, the Russian army deliberately slowed down its advance in The special military operation in Ukraine in order to reduce civilian casualties:
https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/st...ZyTDbROfiq0qVA

It sounds ridiculous, yet people swallow it. I was arguing with a Riječanina the other day about the history of the war in Ukraine on a chat, and the question keeps coming up: why are the civilian casualty numbers so low compared to other conflicts? It was obvious immediately that he was just trying to spin that argument about being careful with civilians.

But basic wartime logic and refugee numbers should tell us everything. Where those Russian fascists are pushing, there aren't many civilians left to worry about.

crimsoncyclist71 said:It sounds ridiculous, yet people swallow it. I was arguing with a Riječanina the other day about the history of the war in Ukraine on a chat, and the question keeps coming up: why are the civilian casualty numbers so low compared to other conflicts? It was obvious immediately that he was just trying to spin that argument about being careful with civilians.

But basic wartime logic and refugee numbers should tell us everything. Where those Russian fascists are pushing, there aren't many civilians left to worry about.

What do you mean "low"? I mean, 22,000 people died in Mariupol alone.

Advisor to the mayor of #Mariupol, Pyotr Andryushchenko, said that at least 22 thousand citizens died in #Mariupol during the three months of the war.

goldenowl73 said:What do you mean "low"? I mean, 22,000 people died in Mariupol alone.

Advisor to the mayor of #Mariupol, Pyotr Andryushchenko, said that at least 22 thousand citizens died in #Mariupol during the three months of the war.

And we're listening to someone from a small town in the Midwest... According to him, only two people died because they weren't looking both ways before crossing the street.