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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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joined Dec 2007
#481 ·
It’s great that someone actually brought up morality in this thread. Some people have it—others... well, they clearly don't.
To me, morality is basically just having a conscience in your day-to-day life. Conscience is a uniquely human thing; animals don't really have it. It’s that internal cognitive process where we check if our perception matches reality—basically, asking ourselves if our judgment is sound and if our actions actually fit the situation at hand. It involves replaying the scene in your head, processing all the circumstances. You've got "pre-emptive" conscience, where you weigh good against evil before you act, and then there's the "after-the-fact" version, where you realize what you've done once the dust settles.
If you actually have a conscience, you aren't going to hurt people, lie through your teeth, commit sexual assault, or kill. And even if you do—which is a stretch—you’re going to feel the weight of it afterward (that nagging guilt).
Our conscience tells us that as humans, we’re all essentially equal and should be working together to make life on this planet better for everyone.
The issue is that a certain segment of the population has become completely numb to their own conscience.
They don't even react to blatant wrongdoing anymore; they seem to have forgotten the whole "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" rule.
It’s honestly depressing that humanity suffers because of a handful of lunatics who lack both morality and a conscience—people who seize power and then turn into total monsters. They just layer lie upon lie and theft upon theft to cover their tracks.
boldmarlin32 boldmarlin32 Member
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joined Dec 2021
#482 ·
William Anderson5 said:And where exactly have the Americans practiced this "expansionism"? You can accuse them of all sorts of things, sure, but look at their interventions after 9/11. Where was the expansion there?

It’s actually the opposite. In most of these interventions, their enemies were the ones who walked away with the bigger prize. Iran expanded its influence through Iraq (which they couldn't do under Saddam Hussein) and all the way into Syria. In Libya, Russia managed to grow its reach. And in Afghanistan, the Taliban seized control of the entire country—something they didn't even have a foothold in before the post-9/11 invasion.

So much for the myth of American expansionism...

Last summer, based on what was being reported, I thought the Americans had actually brought the Taliban to Afghanistan.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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joined Aug 2019
#483 ·
bluerider63 said:Survival of the fittest 😁

That’s basically what geopolitics boils down to—doesn't matter which side you're on.

So what, the biggest power survives and everyone else just dies off?
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#484 ·
analogbear5 said:So what, the biggest power survives and everyone else just dies off?

It’s always the individuals who pay the price, mostly the ones stuck at the bottom of the food chain, while the big powers eventually take the hit too.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#485 ·
bluerider63 said:It’s always the individuals who pay the price, mostly the ones stuck at the bottom of the food chain, while the big powers eventually take the hit too.

"Flet victus, victor interiit"—is that how the saying goes?
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#486 ·
https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status...50853428461570

It looks like the Russian press is really leaning hard into that whole "we're doing just fine" coping mechanism lately regarding all these sanctions.
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#487 ·
Eighty-one years ago today, Hitler's Third Reich launched its massive military offensive against the USSR. One of the very first moves made by Hitler's forces was the heavy bombing of Kyiv.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#488 ·
hollowdriver13 said:https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status...50853428461570

It looks like the Russian press is really leaning hard into that whole "we're doing just fine" coping mechanism lately regarding all these sanctions.

It’s pretty funny if you think about it—they banned all those Russian outlets across the European Union, and then suddenly the BBC feels this massive urge to report on what those same media outlets are actually saying, just so they can fuel their own propaganda machine.😵
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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joined Jan 2021
#489 ·
bluerider63 said:It’s pretty funny if you think about it—they banned all those Russian outlets across the European Union, and then suddenly the BBC feels this massive urge to report on what those same media outlets are actually saying, just so they can fuel their own propaganda machine.😵

A total crime without precedent... I mean, seriously, how do they even have the nerve...
Emily Sanchez6 Emily Sanchez6 Newcomer
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#490 ·
British Brainwashing company
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#491 ·
bluerider63 said:It’s pretty funny if you think about it—they banned all those Russian outlets across the European Union, and then suddenly the BBC feels this massive urge to report on what those same media outlets are actually saying, just so they can fuel their own propaganda machine.😵

Which Russian media outlets are we talking about?

Don't tell me you're counting RT, Sputnik, and Russia 1—that kind of garbage—as actual "media." Nobody sane ever tuned into those...

In reality, the Russian state itself is the one banning the media outlets that were actually worth watching in the first place...
Henry Sullivan4 Henry Sullivan4 Active Member
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#492 ·
Justin Mendoza16 said:🤦 oh my god...🙂are you guys just salty because there isn't some big parade tomorrow held by our Bolshevik structures in cooperation with Russia? Honestly, looking at your posts, you're clearly way too emotionally attached to this whole Russia-Mexico world. It's not happening, man. Just try to live in peace and stop obsessing over everyone on this forum. I'm gonna go grab a cold Budweiser since it's boiling out here; wouldn't want to end up with a massive headache.☕

it's not quite like that though, because as the old experts say, you should watch out for warm beer and cold women, but whiskey is always the way to go, amen, believe me when I say that.😉
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#493 ·
Looks like a Russian refinery over in the Rostov region is going up in flames right now. Word on the street is an Ukrainian drone flew in and handled business. https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...e_BnWz5GA&s=19
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#494 ·
goldenowl73 said:Looks like a Russian refinery over in the Rostov region is going up in flames right now. Word on the street is an Ukrainian drone flew in and handled business. https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...e_BnWz5GA&s=19

Well, that first video is actually pretty spectacular...🤣

The drone was practically limping through the sky, barely holding its own before it finally went down... and then it took out their refinery.
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
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#495 ·
William Anderson5 said:Well, that first video is actually pretty spectacular...🤣

The drone was practically limping through the sky, barely holding its own before it finally went down... and then it took out their refinery.


It’s almost like that old saying, “if Allied planes start dropping bombs on Germany, you can call me Miller” (Hermann Göring).

Based on all that previous Russian self-congratulation, you’d think even a pigeon wouldn't dare fly near a protected target. But then this happens... it's all bark and no bite....
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#496 ·
brightheron64 said:It’s almost like that old saying, “if Allied planes start dropping bombs on Germany, you can call me Miller” (Hermann Göring).

Based on all that previous Russian self-congratulation, you’d think even a pigeon wouldn't dare fly near a protected target. But then this happens... it's all bark and no bite....

We pretty much knew this back when that guy crashed his plane into Red Square during the Cold War. Something's been smelling fishy in Dan.., uh, Russia for a long time.
Zachary Jackson4 Zachary Jackson4 Active Member
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joined Oct 2010
#497 ·
"Everyone speaks Russian, and they even swear using the exact same slang. It makes identification incredibly difficult," an expert noted.

Russians on friendly fire
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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joined Feb 2024
#498 ·
So, let’s look at where we stand today... back in 1941, the first thing they did was bomb Kyiv... on the very first day of the aggression against Ukraine, they went straight for Kyiv.🤔🤔

lp
Gerald Torres84 Gerald Torres84 Active Member
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joined Oct 2015
#499 ·
The Germans really tore through them today, the Russians... It honestly seems like they were incredibly naive to hand over those nuclear assets in the first place.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#500 ·
Gerald Torres84 said:The Germans really tore through them today, the Russians... It honestly seems like they were incredibly naive to hand over those nuclear assets in the first place.

I guess this is gonna be one of those lessons people never forget. Once you hand them over, they’re gone for good. Forever.

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