Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Christian Torres3 said:Maybe you should have paid more attention in history class. Like, a lot more.

It’s pretty obvious you don't actually have a counter-argument to what I laid out, so why even bother jumping in and feeling obligated to reply to a post that wasn't even directed at you?

Or did you just write that comment just so you could throw in a "history class" jab?

Pathetic, and honestly, we've all seen it a thousand times before. 🥱

Fine. Let’s just say the European Union stops sending weapons to Ukraine altogether. What happens in a week, two weeks, a month, or six months down the line?

I don't quite grasp what the European Union actually stands to gain from that. If Russia manages to seize half of Ukraine, energy prices are going to skyrocket—because Russia would essentially, and quite literally, hold the keys to every single resource Europe relies on.

And then you have Zoran Milanović—a man who practically fled the battlefield—advocating for surrender... well, that shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. I suspect most of the old Communist Party crowd back then—and yes, I'm including people like Andrej Plenković in that group—were all pushing for "peace" and total capitulation during the 90s too.

Paul Thomas46 said:They’ve actually gone and blamed the European Union for sending weapons—claiming it just drags the war out longer, right?

I'm sorry, but that isn't just "pro-Putin talk"—it is quite clearly siding with the aggressor.

I don't expect anything dramatic to happen in Canada right now—we really can't handle any more chaos...
But the situation is clear. Crystal clear.

Is anything actually going to happen in Canada?
How's Orbán's popularity looking with the average person?

I haven't been following this closely; I just stumbled on the article. It might make more sense if we actually had the original news report to look at.

Cheers

It’s probably not the first time that the Canadians have been the only ones in the European Union actually thinking clearly.
Sooner or later, everyone else is going to end up seeing things their way, I guess.

We need a truce, and we need it right now.

Donna Harris11 said:It’s probably not the first time that the Canadians have been the only ones in the European Union actually thinking clearly.
Sooner or later, everyone else is going to end up seeing things their way, I guess.

We need a truce, and we need it right now.

Look, I used to be a huge supporter of Orbán, but if we are being logical here—strictly logical—what he is pulling right now is nothing short of pure corruption.

He is making a blatant choice to side with the aggressor at this specific moment.
Advocating for an end to weapons shipments...
And then, simultaneously, you slap people with extra taxes and even hike unnecessary tariffs on airlines in massive amounts—why? Just so he can arm himself because there is a war nearby. And to top it all off, he reinstates a state of emergency.

Specifically, this whole "extra tax" business makes zero sense to me. Well, I understand the *reasoning*, but I truly don't see how any sane Canadian could support it. If World War III actually breaks out, Canada holds the most strategic position in Europe. Not to mention the sheer amount of money that will be bled away because—well, look at our own travelers—people won't even bother flying through Budapest anymore because they've loaded those airlines with additional fees. It is absolute madness...

And let us not forget that the Forint is currently sitting at its lowest levels in history.

The fundamental distinction between Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Putin lies in what Hitler actually managed to achieve by occupying Ukraine.

crimsonfox12 said:😉

It’s pretty obvious you don't actually have a counter-argument to what I laid out, so why even bother jumping in and feeling obligated to reply to a post that wasn't even directed at you?

Or did you just write that comment just so you could throw in a "history class" jab?

Pathetic, and honestly, we've all seen it a thousand times before. 🥱

There is absolutely no point wasting time on someone who clearly knows nothing about the history between Poles and Russians and relies on such low-level "arguments."

mellownomad7 said:Is anything actually going to happen in Canada?
How's Orbán's popularity looking with the average person?

I haven't been following this closely; I just stumbled on the article. It might make more sense if we actually had the original news report to look at.

Cheers

No.

That's just how things are—it is what it is...

Every Pole I talk to seems to have a grudge against the Russians, and honestly, it’s not even about World War II. It’s more about everything that’s gone down from then until now... I guess the whole situation in Ukraine just feels like ultimate proof to them that they were right all along.

I am uncertain if this has been shared here already.

It appears that former KGB agent Kiril managed to slip on a patch of ice and ended up face-down in a bottle of whiskey.

https://twitter.com/beaudonnet/statu...m5noIat-Q&s=19

I honestly don't get why some people in Canada are so fond of the Russians, especially when you look back at history... I mean, those fights in Budapest back in '56 were way more intense than what happened in Prague in '68, right?

mellownomad7 said:Is anything actually going to happen in Canada?
How's Orbán's popularity looking with the average person?

I haven't been following this closely; I just stumbled on the article. It might make more sense if we actually had the original news report to look at.

Cheers

I guess Orbán has support because Americans—well, the Canadians there—are pretty nationalist and mostly just look out for themselves, kind of like how some people view the English. People always wonder why he does what he does and why the European Union can't seem to touch him. It isn't really about the local folks; it’s the Germans. They’ve poured massive amounts of money into auto parts factories over there, so they basically have to walk on eggshells around this little dictator. It’s a similar vibe to how things work in Mexico... the Germans invested heavily there too, so Vučko just does whatever he wants. I think the real issue within the European Union is Germany and their disastrous policies. You can see it clearly during these crisis times, and honestly, all the criticism coming out of Ukraine toward them seems pretty justified. No one else in the European Union dares to call them out, so I suppose at least the Ukrainians will spit on them. They probably deserve it.

Christian Barnes said:I honestly don't get why some people in Canada are so fond of the Russians, especially when you look back at history... I mean, those fights in Budapest back in '56 were way more intense than what happened in Prague in '68, right?

Honestly, sounds like Stockholm syndrome to me. It's kind of like how Mexicans seem to adore them, even though the Russians have basically screwed them over at every turn. I mean, back in the 90s, they were actually sending weapons to us instead of the Mexicans, but hey, whatever.😁

Anthony Hill5 said:I am uncertain if this has been shared here already.

It appears that former KGB agent Kiril managed to slip on a patch of ice and ended up face-down in a bottle of whiskey.

https://twitter.com/beaudonnet/statu...m5noIat-Q&s=19

https://twitter.com/fatimatlis/statu...43214436204545

Supposedly he took a pretty nasty hit when he went down.

Karma at work? 😁

Donna Harris11 said:It’s probably not the first time that the Canadians have been the only ones in the European Union actually thinking clearly.
Sooner or later, everyone else is going to end up seeing things their way, I guess.

We need a truce, and we need it right now.

Why wasn't a ceasefire made back in 1942 when Hitler had almost all of Europe under his thumb?

Christian Barnes said:I honestly don't get why some people in Canada are so fond of the Russians, especially when you look back at history... I mean, those fights in Budapest back in '56 were way more intense than what happened in Prague in '68, right?

I mean, generally they don't actually like them, but they just blindly follow their leader—to them, Viktor Orbán is basically God. It’s like the country is its own little island, you know? They have this specific lifestyle and their own rituals, and they won't let anyone mess with their internal peace or how they do things. They work hard all week, then basically go on a bender every weekend, and that’s pretty much it. I guess they don't care much about what happens outside their own borders... kind of a wild bunch, honestly😁

Melissa Rivera5 said:Honestly, sounds like Stockholm syndrome to me. It's kind of like how Mexicans seem to adore them, even though the Russians have basically screwed them over at every turn. I mean, back in the 90s, they were actually sending weapons to us instead of the Mexicans, but hey, whatever.😁

Do you honestly think they weren't giving weapons to pro Mexico back in the nineties?

Melissa Rivera5 said:Honestly, sounds like Stockholm syndrome to me. It's kind of like how Mexicans seem to adore them, even though the Russians have basically screwed them over at every turn. I mean, back in the 90s, they were actually sending weapons to us instead of the Mexicans, but hey, whatever.😁

They were sending us weapons just to get cash—we actually mistook that transaction for some kind of special privilege. Meanwhile, the Mexicans had no shortage of arms during that era.

The CIA claims that Putin’s inner circle might be plotting an assassination attempt using a hammer. Apparently, "one strike to the head and he's gone."

A secret plot to take down Vladimir Putin could already be in motion, according to a CIA insider. This "hammer blow" aimed at removing the Russian leader might be being cooked up by Putin's own inner circle—a sudden, unexpected strike designed to catch him completely off guard if everything goes according to plan.

I mean, I'm kind of dying at this headline from the local news, acting like that's actually the literal plan... 🤣 🤣

Here's the original article; the Daily Beast even included some artsy illustration:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-ru...tin?ref=scroll 🍿

Carol Newman2 said:Orban is demanding an end to the EU's military aid to Ukraine: 'People, every government in Europe will collapse if you keep this up—get real.'

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Just let Ukraine go under, right? That’s the wet dream our conservatives are chasing.

And what has sticking by Ukraine actually achieved so far? At the start, they kept feeding everyone this line about how sanctions would stop Putin from continuing the war, but that turned out to be nothing more than empty rhetoric. The Canadian proposal makes sense because everyone wants peace, but of course, that assumes we just let Russia stop right at the Donbas.