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hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#821 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Man, you can practically hear the Chinese rubbing their hands together...

That’s why I don't think they're jumping in yet. They’re just waiting for Russia’s ego to completely blow up, and then they'll swoop in to buy everything up—not for peanuts, either, but for basically a glass of water. Once they’ve grabbed all the good stuff, they'll probably step on them to end the war, because hey, they're gonna need all those newly acquired resources to ship off to the West.

Not even a 4D chess player, more like some multiverse grandmaster. 🙏
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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#822 ·
It’s a waiting game until things finally clear up:

The NYT is reporting that Maduro might actually be open to talking oil. He basically said Venezuelan oil is on the table for anyone wanting to produce or buy it—whether that's an investor from Asia, Europe, or the USA.
Plus, Venezuela just released two Americans, which I guess is seen as a little olive branch to Biden and the US following that visit from the American delegation.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#823 ·
boldotter2 said:It’s a waiting game until things finally clear up:

The NYT is reporting that Maduro might actually be open to talking oil. He basically said Venezuelan oil is on the table for anyone wanting to produce or buy it—whether that's an investor from Asia, Europe, or the USA.
Plus, Venezuela just released two Americans, which I guess is seen as a little olive branch to Biden and the US following that visit from the American delegation.

"Nothing personal comrade Putin, just good business" 😬
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#824 ·
So, does this mean the US is actually lifting those sanctions? I just hope the Venezuelans are smart enough to squeeze every last cent out of this new setup, especially after how ruthlessly they were treated before.
swiftjackal11 swiftjackal11 Regular
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#825 ·
bluerider63 said:So, does this mean the US is actually lifting those sanctions? I just hope the Venezuelans are smart enough to squeeze every last cent out of this new setup, especially after how ruthlessly they were treated before.

Wishful thinking at its finest..
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#826 ·
hollowdriver13 said:"Nothing personal comrade Putin, just good business" 😬

You have no clue. Comrade Putin is working on placing missiles in Venezuela, and I’m hearing there's interest from Scotland and Mexico too.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
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#827 ·
hollowdriver13 said:That’s why I don't think they're jumping in yet. They’re just waiting for Russia’s ego to completely blow up, and then they'll swoop in to buy everything up—not for peanuts, either, but for basically a glass of water. Once they’ve grabbed all the good stuff, they'll probably step on them to end the war, because hey, they're gonna need all those newly acquired resources to ship off to the West.

Not even a 4D chess player, more like some multiverse grandmaster. 🙏

It's like playing Go while calling it chess—chess looks like a joke by comparison! 🙏

The Russians have acted incredibly foolishly, and honestly, the EU hasn't exactly won any prizes either. While the Americans are practically rubbing their hands in anticipation, China is the absolute winner here, rolling in like pigs in mud!
dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
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#828 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:Coca-Cola and McDonald's announce withdrawal and suspension of operations in Russia

McDonald's, an icon of the post-Soviet era, to shutter all locations in Russia

Perhaps in a few decades, we might find ourselves witnessing similar scenes in Moscow once again, though who can truly say what the future holds?





In the interim, the United States is issuing stern warnings to China, making it clear that there will be severe consequences should they choose to flout the Western sanctions imposed on Russia.

The Biden administration could “ essentially shut ” down Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation or Any Chinese companies that defy U. S. sanctions by continuing to supply chips and other advanced technology to Russia, Ms. Raimondo said in an interview with The New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/08/t...onductors.html

That's probably what'll actually hit them where it hurts most.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#829 ·
dustymarlin10 said:That's probably what'll actually hit them where it hurts most.

Honestly, this feels like a pretty surface-level take on how economics actually works. Every single bottle of Coca-Cola, every McDonald's meal, every iPhone, every Pepsi, every pair of Adidas gear, and every Volkswagen car had built-in taxes that were padding the government's coffers. On top of that, every one of those companies was employing people who were collecting paychecks—people who are now likely headed straight toward unemployment lines.
Every time a major player shuts down or pulls out like this, it puts even more strain on the U.S. budget, pushing the country closer to a financial meltdown where they won't even be able to fund the military anymore.

P.S.
Also, for regular Americans who have been raised for two generations to enjoy all the perks of the "wicked and hedonistic" West, this whole transition is going to be a massive reality check. Just look at the mad rush to IKEA right before they closed, or the stampede to McDonald's before they pulled out.

There are even videos floating around YouTube showing how people rushed to stock up on stuff like motor oil and car parts while they still could.
Emily Fox2 Emily Fox2 Active Member
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#830 ·
While Biden scrambles to find alternatives to sanctioned Russian goods, the UAE and Saudi Arabia are giving him the cold shoulder 😂
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-e...is-11646779430
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
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#831 ·
Emily Fox2 said:While Biden scrambles to find alternatives to sanctioned Russian goods, the UAE and Saudi Arabia are giving him the cold shoulder 😂
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-e...is-11646779430

😁

Are you actually serious about this stuff you're posting, or are you just having a blast trolling everyone? 🤣
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#832 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Honestly, this feels like a pretty surface-level take on how economics actually works. Every single bottle of Coca-Cola, every McDonald's meal, every iPhone, every Pepsi, every pair of Adidas gear, and every Volkswagen car had built-in taxes that were padding the government's coffers. On top of that, every one of those companies was employing people who were collecting paychecks—people who are now likely headed straight toward unemployment lines.
Every time a major player shuts down or pulls out like this, it puts even more strain on the U.S. budget, pushing the country closer to a financial meltdown where they won't even be able to fund the military anymore.

P.S.
Also, for regular Americans who have been raised for two generations to enjoy all the perks of the "wicked and hedonistic" West, this whole transition is going to be a massive reality check. Just look at the mad rush to IKEA right before they closed, or the stampede to McDonald's before they pulled out.

There are even videos floating around YouTube showing how people rushed to stock up on stuff like motor oil and car parts while they still could.

They are all nothing more than Western mercenaries and foreign agents. I fully expect we will soon see the opening of an even larger and more prominent McPutin's.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#833 ·
What kind of economic gut punch is the West actually facing here? Check this out: 🙏
Preston is basically trying to push stuff on us that was already off-limits.

"To be specific, we're looking at:

moving away from the dollar for both domestic reserves and international settlements
shifting focus toward capital markets that serve as alternatives to Western ones
setting up reliable, secure channels for financial data—basically boosting the use of local currencies for cross-border payments
and establishing direct interbank relationships with their biggest trading partners."
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#834 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:😁

Are you actually serious about this stuff you're posting, or are you just having a blast trolling everyone? 🤣

Poor guy, starting today they're only paying out in rubles.
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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#835 ·
The spread on Ural Brent crude is sitting at a $24.50 discount per barrel
My bad, looks like it's $24.60
https://www.neste.com/investors/mark...ice-difference
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
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#836 ·
Emily Fox2 said:While Biden scrambles to find alternatives to sanctioned Russian goods, the UAE and Saudi Arabia are giving him the cold shoulder 😂
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-e...is-11646779430

My friend, the news you're following is getting exponentially ridiculous.

Desperation?
Amy Diaz222 Amy Diaz222 Member
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#837 ·
Regarding these sanctions .... 🤔

It is truly fascinating to observe how—perhaps almost every single corporation from the "West"—

—is "withdrawing," "fleeing," "abandoning," ceasing operations, or relocating away from Russia.... 🤔

A massive amount of questions are being forced upon us here ....

For instance: are these corporations—many of them absolute giants—really "suffering" because of those Maidan-style "revolutionaries" in Ukraine, causing them to "capriciously" exit Russia and walk away from their business—

—or is this actually being ordered? 😁

If this is (as is likely) an order, then we have to ask who, how, why, where, and how much, among other things.... 🤔

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Up until now, "business" hasn't exactly been known for being "sentimental" or "sensitive" enough to "capriciously" abandon massive investments and established markets... 😁
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#838 ·
wiredseal7 said:https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/...dCRPHd4hQh_a3g

CERN hit Russia with sanctions.
Though—as usual—all the current projects are still rolling along. 🤣

wiredseal7 said:Don't sweat it—I checked. Here's the official word if you want it:
https://home.cern/news/news/cern/cer...vasion-ukraine

Most of the countries involved that aren't actual CERN members don't have observer status anyway. So, there's no rule saying their institutes have to keep doing what they've been doing. Plus, you have to wonder how those experiments would even work if the Russians shut down their gear and pulled their experts out. It'd be like the EU shooting themselves in the foot with those sanctions.

Sorry, but this level of delusion is almost impressive. There isn't any Russian equipment involved, and as for the talented Russian scientists—those who managed to get out will stay out (brain drain is about to spike), and the poor souls stuck inside the Russian Federation will find any way possible to escape. It worked once before—back in the 90s, physics departments were packed with brilliant Russian and Ukrainian scientists, from Christchurac to Winnipeg—and it'll happen again...

The whole idea of a "Russian expert" who blindly follows whatever the White House tells them is a myth.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#839 ·
Amy Diaz222 said:Regarding these sanctions .... 🤔

It is truly fascinating to observe how—perhaps almost every single corporation from the "West"—

—is "withdrawing," "fleeing," "abandoning," ceasing operations, or relocating away from Russia.... 🤔

A massive amount of questions are being forced upon us here ....

For instance: are these corporations—many of them absolute giants—really "suffering" because of those Maidan-style "revolutionaries" in Ukraine, causing them to "capriciously" exit Russia and walk away from their business—

—or is this actually being ordered? 😁

If this is (as is likely) an order, then we have to ask who, how, why, where, and how much, among other things.... 🤔

----

Up until now, "business" hasn't exactly been known for being "sentimental" or "sensitive" enough to "capriciously" abandon massive investments and established markets... 😁

It’s highly probable they simply realized that in an increasingly impoverished Russia, they won't be hitting their revenue targets anyway. By exiting now, they get to preserve their "righteous" image while pivoting their business elsewhere.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#840 ·
Michael Ortiz68 said:It’s highly probable they simply realized that in an increasingly impoverished Russia, they won't be hitting their revenue targets anyway. By exiting now, they get to preserve their "righteous" image while pivoting their business elsewhere.

Honestly, I’d lean toward that second option myself. These days, corporations take their CSR and PR strategies incredibly seriously. I mean, think about it—why on earth would any major company risk a massive 10-20% drop in their global market share just to chase a tiny niche that only accounts for maybe 2 or 3% of their total revenue? It just doesn't make sense.

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