#8381 ·
So, word on the street is that the Russians have apparently backed down on demanding gas payments in rubles... looks like we can go back to paying in whatever currency is actually listed in the contract. 😬
Started by Richard Wilson4 · · 👁 232 views · 9.5K replies
Andrew Booth29 said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rfe.../32202098.html
That southern storm really did a number on them... I mean, if you ask me, global warming always finds its moment when it's most inconvenient. 😬
hollowdriver13 said:The Russian gas blackmail plan just had an epic backfire.
They played their strongest card—their absolute ace in the hole, call it whatever you want—way too early. They didn't even stop to think about what happens if we get a warm winter. They choked off the supply in the fall, but Mother Nature doesn't care about their desperate need for hard currency.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlgxWiSW...ng&name=medium
A map showing temperature anomalies for Europe compared to the average since '81.
Andrew Booth29 said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rfe.../32202098.html
That southern storm really did a number on them... I mean, if you ask me, global warming always finds its moment when it's most inconvenient. 😬
George Robinson43 said:It looks like the Chinese government has started cutting back on those energy imports again, so we can kiss those "massive" hydrocarbon orders goodbye.
Sean Reed3 said:Are you talking about the infected bats from the Ukrainian biolabs?
hollowdriver13 said:Wall Street is moving, but prices just keep sliding down
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas
70€/MWh
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/urals-oil
$56 - Urals crude
The losses on the Russian exchange at the end of 2022
https://twitter.com/IikkaKorhonen/st...22901154287617
dustyowl29 said:The weather in the States is famously unpredictable—we could easily see a massive cold snap hit in January or February.
But yeah, we're already halfway through January and there’s zero sign of anything actually getting cold. It’s been staying above freezing the whole time.
Andrew Booth29 said:Yeah, a cold front could certainly roll in, but the warehouses are packed to the brim because of this warm spell. Every extra week of warmth is a win. If this keeps up just a little longer, we might actually be out of the woods. 😬
Carl Lee27 said:It’s honestly wild to see this—for the first time, Russian oil isn't just following the usual global trends, it's actually tanking significantly below even the WTI levels. Looking at this chart, you really have to feel for the Russians and their neighbors because it looks incredibly grim; it seems like the West is doing a pretty thorough job right now of tearing up the very foundation and the last remaining stable parts of the Russian economy itself.
https://i.postimg.cc/7hDYygbV/Urals.jpg
Andrew Booth29 said:Yeah, a cold front could certainly roll in, but the warehouses are packed to the brim because of this warm spell. Every extra week of warmth is a win. If this keeps up just a little longer, we might actually be out of the woods. 😬
hollowdriver13 said:Wall Street is moving, but prices just keep sliding down
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas
70€/MWh
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/urals-oil
$56 - Urals crude
The losses on the Russian exchange at the end of 2022
https://twitter.com/IikkaKorhonen/st...22901154287617
Jack Kelly5 said:honestly, where did all those self-proclaimed experts go? you know, the ones who were absolutely certain the European Union was going to fall apart by autumn and that WTI would hit $250 a barrel.
Timothy Nelson5 said:Then you’ve got all these recessionary hints, China dealing with COVID...
The Saudi leadership has been playing a sneaky game with the West, cutting production right when the crisis hit hardest... even that senile Biden went there in person to practically beg them to ramp up, but they just brushed him off.
Back then, Trump—being the statesman he is—just posted on Twitter that Saudi Arabia needs to boost oil production because of those hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, and they did it without even blinking.
Now, I guess American fracking might see a resurgence, and honestly, the green energy crowd could probably stop dodging accountability for their part in this mess and start focusing on policies that actually matter...
All in all, natural gas might just tank before summer hits.
And oil will likely follow suit.
As for Russian prices, the West can always make sure they stay well below market rates. Even if Putin tried his absolute hardest, he couldn't change that. 😁