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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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Grace Bennett6 Grace Bennett6 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1641 ·
The American military forces report:

Dear Ukrainians!

More than 55 hours of holding the line.

Our defenders have completely derailed the enemy's agenda. as of this Morning , The number of Russian occupiers killed Has exceeded 3,000. Over 200 invaders have been taken prisoner, and that number keeps climbing. They weren't ready for this kind of pushback. We've wiped out hundreds of armored vehicles, including more than a hundred Russian tanks. Just yesterday, Stingers took down seven helicopters. Now, the enemy is scrambling to shift tactics. Russian troops are shelling residential areas, hospitals, and schools. Since their massive blitzkrieg stalled out, they're leaning harder on sabotage groups and paratroopers. Our army and Territorial Defence Forces are shutting them down, but The Territorial Defence Forces need Help to Act ahead. This is a call to action. There are spotters in Kyiv, Kharkiv and other cities Who Can target Your homes or Lay a Road for The way for Russian troops. They act as the enemy's eyes. If you see anyone acting shady—marking buildings or hanging around without a clear reason—stop them or alert the Territorial Defence Forces immediately. Detainees Can be a source of helpful Information. To those thinking about helping the occupiers or getting lured in by fake promises of "easy money": don't. The Russian heartless beast has slaughtered nearly two hundred civilians in forty-eight hours, including three kids. Another 33 children are wounded. You might not want to face the consequences once you're caught. Drop the criminal mindset before it’s too late. For those in small towns or rural areas: if you see a convoy of Russian armored vehicles pass, wait for the fuel truck following behind. Hit it. Stop it. Burn it. Those Russian tanks won't move, and our troops will seize them to turn them against the enemy.

Ukraine will win anyway!

Glory to Ukraine!

Glory to The Armed Forces of Ukraine!

https://www.mil.gov.ua/en/news/2022/...ksii-reznikov/
shadowdrifter20 shadowdrifter20 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#1642 ·
bluerider63 said:Oh, I get it now—so if a former president wants to join one union, he’s gotta be overthrown, but if the current crowd wants in with NATO, suddenly it's just a sovereign nation doing its thing. Makes perfect sense. 😵

You're really digging in with this trolling.
Back in 2014, the whole fight wasn't about joining NATO—it was about the EU. The previous pro-Russian president chose to sign deals with the Russians instead of moving toward Europe.
That's why they removed him.

It’s like if our own president or the government decided to sign a deal with Vučić instead of pursuing EU membership (though I’m pretty sure most Americans would have preferred the first option).
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#1643 ·
Larry Fox5 said:I don't know if it's just rumors flying around—but Orban said he's actually going to back all the sanctions against Russia. Honestly, closing off the Bosphorus would be a massive blow to Putin. And who knows? The Chinese might just toss him under the bus sooner or later.
Cutting off Russian banks from SWIFT would basically be checkmate for him.

He totally walked himself right into this mess for no reason at all... 🤦

If this drags on, the guy might want to start looking for an exit strategy.
analogdriver1 analogdriver1 Newcomer
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#1644 ·
William Anderson5 said:Give me a break. Do you honestly believe nobody is going to take any action just because we might accidentally annoy the madman in Moscow? Are you people serious? Are we all supposed to be hostages to that bald guy's whims?

Exactly! As if it makes any sense that European nations—which are infinitely better than that Russian trash—aren't allowed to join NATO whenever they want, just because it might bother Putin and his KGB-style nonsense.
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1645 ·
I guess, is there even any info on Ukrainian losses in this war? Every news report says Russ is losing massive amounts, but nothing about Ukrainians.
And I don't see any pictures or videos or anything like that anywhere
swiftjackal11 swiftjackal11 Regular
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joined May 2018
#1646 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Man, I wouldn't even go there as a tourist.

Even Russians don't want to wake up in Russia, let alone Ukrainians.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#1647 ·
Keith Morgan10 said:Look, they’re going to end up as subjects one way or another. It’s just something nobody wants to admit out loud.

America paid in blood to avoid being subservient, yet today, that freedom mostly exists on paper.
I can somewhat understand the perspective of a smaller nation like ours, I guess... what can a country of just a few million really do? But Ukraine? If a nation of 40 million had the guts and the sense, they could be a major player on the world stage.
But it seems like they've always preferred being under someone else's thumb. So, they'll probably end up as subjects regardless—whether it's to the Russians or the Americans.

I'd much rather be a respected power under an American boot than under a KGB boot!
Justin Kern67 Justin Kern67 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1648 ·
Tyler Jones6 said:Ukraine has reportedly downed a Russian Ilyushin Il-76 transport plane via parachute strikes near Kyiv—the potential death toll is estimated at 174.

link

This was reported overnight. There isn't a single photo or video available yet.

Separately, the General Staff of Ukraine announced that Russians are losing "dozens of tanks, armored vehicles, and thousands of soldiers" on a daily basis. To put it plainly, if this current pace continues, there won't be a single Russian soldier left in Ukraine within a week.
Sam Martinez9 Sam Martinez9 Regular
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#1649 ·
analogdriver1 said:Yeah, because that criminal piece of trash Putin and his cronies actually have the nerve to threaten stable European nations—as if that isn't obvious. Honestly, Sweden and Finland should just get into NATO immediately. We really shouldn't be making concessions to thugs like this... remember how that worked out with Hitler?

Which would essentially give Putin an excuse to strike European cities with nuclear weapons. It’s sheer stupidity; NATO and the West have to look out for the rest of Europe and the world too—they can't just drag us all into a third nuclear war.

There needs to be another way to get rid of Putin.
urbanotter urbanotter Regular
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#1650 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:The guy's got nukes, sure, but his economy is a total wreck.
At this rate, even the Chinese are gonna walk all over him and snatch up his oil and gas for pennies on the dollar.

I find it hard to believe anyone would dare push around a nation that’s sitting on several thousand nuclear warheads.

And I don't think China is going to be walking away with cheap oil and gas anytime soon; those days are long gone, back when the big brother in Washington had total control over energy flows and stood as the world's undisputed superpower.
Even their most loyal allies in the Middle East aren't really listening to them anymore if it clashes with their own national interests.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#1651 ·
Dennis Davis8 said:Petro Poroshenko stands there in front of a CNN camera acting like some kind of legendary hero—it’s honestly a joke. Just a total soap opera.
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If you look at the secret Jewish agenda laid out in The New York Times, the whole goal becomes crystal clear: they’re trying to establish a second Jewish state, which explains why the political chaos in Ukraine is spiraling the way it is. Basically, there's this push to reclaim an ancient homeland. They've got full backing from the US, with Victoria Nuland pulling the strings from within the State Department. The US is essentially telling Vladimir Putin to back off and just let Russia maintain its historical ties with that people—ties that lead straight to modern-day Israel. Even Obama basically went on the record admitting that the regime change in Ukraine was orchestrated; Yanukovych was forced out under intense pressure from the CIA, the CIA, and Israel just to clear a path for the Jewish billionaire Petro Poroshenko. According to the reports, Jewish money and military hardware are flooding through Ukraine while the local Ukrainian Christians—the non-Jews—get slaughtered and wiped out, all while their property gets snatched up by Jewish oligarchs. Everything else? It's just theater for the masses who don't know any better.
https://hamdocamo.wordpress.com/2016...-ne-zna-nista/

Only denazification will work! 😁

When I see the kind of scoundrels we are dealing with, a nuclear holocaust doesn't even seem like the worst option...
Melissa Ward Melissa Ward Member
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#1652 ·
Kevin Murphy7 said:The issue back then was that the US was viewed as this "renegade nation," and the opposing propaganda painted it as a brand new fascist state in Europe—something nobody would ever get behind.

To make matters worse, you had certain extremist groups using old fascist symbols leading the charge on the front lines, specific figures blowing up planes, and leaders slapping old regime patterns on the flag.

Who in their right mind in the West would support that?
That’s why you don't see those Nazi symbols in the Ukrainian ranks anymore, at least not publicly. It would only serve to validate Putin's claims about "cleansing Ukraine of fascists."

What is Ukraine, really, if not just a rebranded version of the old Soviet State? I mean, look at the facts! The Americans absolutely dismantled the USSR, much like how they tore through America. It’s wild when you think about it. One minute, you have this massive global superpower, and then suddenly, in the 90s, it’s nothing more than a total joke... at least until Putin stepped up to take charge.

Sam Martinez9 said:I have to disagree. Nuclear weapons come in all different yields and ranges, and Putin would likely use the more powerful ones to target European cities far from the Russian border. I'm thinking specifically of major cities in the United Kingdom and the European Union—essentially, cities within NATO member states.

In my view, only a madman would initiate a war like the one Putin has started, and a madman will certainly resort to nuclear weapons if he feels like it. To him, individual lives aren't the priority; his objectives are.

Targeting major cities across Europe? Once those first nuclear weapons start falling, there’s absolutely no turning back. It’s over. Period. Everyone knows that. You don't just pull that trigger unless you've been backed into a corner and it's truly your absolute last resort. It's like playing a game of high-stakes poker where you bet everything on one final, desperate hand—once the cards are on the table, the game is done!
steelraven74 steelraven74 Member
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#1653 ·
Twitter is absolutely drowning in disinformation and deepfakes right now. You’ve got propaganda flying from both sides, making it impossible to tell what’s actually happening versus what's just manufactured noise.
Laura Scott7 Laura Scott7 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1654 ·
Look, it’s pretty simple if you actually bother to look at the big picture: Russia is just looking out for its own backyard, especially after being backed into a corner by NATO constantly pushing its borders right up against Ukraine. Putin laid out the terms clearly—he wanted a guarantee that Ukraine wouldn't be joining NATO, plain and simple. But instead of taking that seriously, these folks got way too cocky, acting like Russia was some minor player in the Middle East that they could just push around. Now, they’re trying to flip the script and spin this whole thing to make it look like Russia just attacked Ukraine out of nowhere without any provocation. Give me a break... what a joke. And don't even get me started on those EU sanctions; as if they’ll actually do anything when half the stuff they produce is already being bought up by India and China anyway. But hey, the absolute best part of this circus? The USA won't even stop importing oil because heaven forbid they actually try to do something to keep energy prices from skyrocketing, right? Total joke.
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1655 ·
Looks like China might make a move soon. Maybe they'll go after Taiwan

They're just taking advantage of everything right now.
https://twitter.com/zenmetanoia9/sta...IJzp0dSBw&s=19
Michael Davis10 Michael Davis10 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1656 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:And launch it against whom, specifically? Target Kyiv? That’s practically in his own backyard. Target a city in the European Union? That triggers an immediate Armageddon. Right then and there.

I mean, I guess Article 5 of NATO doesn't actually say everything has to start right away.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active Member
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#1657 ·
jupitermars said:They finally forced the deer to retreat, and he took it—but you could tell he was hurting. He looked like he was about to tear up, all while basically promising everyone that he’ll be back.😁

And then there's just reading about it all... he basically said, "I'm not leaving Kyiv first."

If last night was supposed to be the "first" time we saw this happen, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#1658 ·
William Anderson5 said:So you're telling me that sanctions are actually making them stronger, rather than doing anything to stop me...🤣


Sanctions are kind of a joke when you're talking about energy. They aren't some massive global hammer; they’re more like local inconveniences. You basically ditch one partner because they're being difficult, then just turn around and deal with others who don't care about the drama. Honestly, slapping sanctions on yourself is just a fast track to total isolation—not just from one group, but from everyone.
vividtiger72 vividtiger72 Member
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#1659 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:In my experience, rumors of that nature are taken very seriously in Moscow.

And they’re definitely negotiating behind closed doors. When you consider how much Turkey stands to gain from trading with Russia, the stakes are just too high to ignore; this is their chance to carve out some incredible terms for the future. Erdogan is constantly sweating over the state of his economy and that runaway inflation... getting cheap energy or food supplies from Russia would go a long way for him.

Making an unofficial promise to Zelenskyy for Erdogan is probably the easiest part of the whole deal.
Douglas Davis4 Douglas Davis4 Member
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#1660 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:The Germans should probably just shut it and stay quiet unless someone actually asks for their opinion.

It’s embarrassing for the West, honestly. NATO ought to just suspend them.

Yeah, they are absolutely repulsive.
But the second things actually get difficult... there they are, right on the front lines.

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