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The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

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electricstag9 electricstag9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Feb 2020
#1881 ·
The father acts as Putin’s mouthpiece, yet the daughter is out there publicly opposing the war.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active Member
88 messages
joined Sep 2021
#1882 ·
Quincy:
Ukrainian forces blew up the tracks connecting them to Russia. Now the connection with Amtrak has been cut off.

Amtrak requests communication with the Democratic National Committee to get things back online.

Amtrak received the answer - "American train, go fuck yourself!".
Quincy:
Ukrainian troops undermined joints with Russia. Now the connection with Amtrak has been cut off.

Amtrak requests communication with the Democratic National Committee to restore communication.

Amtrak received the answer - "American train, go fuck yourself!".

Doesn't say where.
Tyler Jones6 Tyler Jones6 Active Member
85 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1883 ·
Rebecca Lewis7 said:Vladimir Putin is contemplating nuclear escalation against the Fed, yet the Russians were the ones who initiated the aggression first, so how does one interpret that? They are acting like savages... completely irrational.

Does anyone here honestly expect the Russians to simply sit there and take it while their economy is being dismantled without any counter-measures or retaliatory sanctions? It is a rather absurd expectation.

One should not issue threats unless one is fully prepared to execute them and risk a broken hand or a black eye in the ensuing brawl.

The Russians tend to deliberate extensively before making a move, but once they commit, they are unstoppable; the more sanctions applied, the harder they strike. When they finally decide to act, they don't stop to calculate the cost or hesitate—they see things through to the end regardless of the price, so I certainly wouldn't advise trifing with them,, and no person of sound mind would engage them in such a manner.

Naive, gullible fools need to wake up from their fairy tales and face reality; otherwise, they will end up wailing just like the Ukrainians are doing now, asking "how could this happen?" or "why us?" and begging for comrades to help.A collection of useless "allies" is nowhere to be found when it actually matters.

Look at what happens when people fight back like the former Georgian president did; what kind of support did Georgia actually receive from those useless allies? They ended up with a broken state and zero actual assistance. Or consider the "allies" in Afghanistan, wandering aimlessly through the country while the women in ninja units are left to thank those useless Western powers for their "support."

These so-called allies only offer support as long as there is a clear financial incentive or an opportunity for extra profit; the moment real costs begin to mount, they suddenly become deaf, blind, and invent all sorts of excuses to claim they bear no responsibility.

They aren't being peaceful—they aren't calm, there is no peace, which is exactly why their economy is being strangled!

GET OUT OF UKRAINE!
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
220 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1884 ·
Man, Medvedev has seriously lost his marbles this time...

- Even diplomatic ties aren't really necessary anymore - he wrote.

- It's high time we just padlocked the embassies and limited our contact to staring at each other through binoculars and rifle scopes - he claims.


Everything is just going down the drain at 3 pm..
🤦
gentleharbor3 gentleharbor3 Member
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joined May 2024
#1885 ·
Lozovski is back on RTL, claiming that tank crushing the civilian car was actually Russian.

Remember that tank that ran over a car and a person yesterday? A journalist is insisting: 'That’s a Ukrainian Strela; there are no Russian vehicles in Kyiv yet.'
Lozovski, an editor at the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, took to his Twitter profile to explain how this was just an accident—which is why he wiped all the video clips of the car being crushed. "I've deleted all retweets showing a military vehicle crushing a civilian car in Kyiv. It appears to be a Ukrainian vehicle that lost control. There are still no reports of Russian vehicles in Kyiv. This serves as another good reminder not to spread unverified content," Lozovski wrote.
And veteran war reporter Elijah J. Magnier backed up that claim.
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
178 messages
joined Dec 2012
#1886 ·
Tyler Jones6 said:Well, Mexico has basically already been there—they functioned under a one-party system for an incredibly long time. Maybe try doing a little more research. 🤣

pancho and company
restlessmason54 restlessmason54 Member
40 messages
joined Jun 2020
#1887 ·
Paul Patel95 said:No one’s actually blocking the access to the Black Sea (yet). Honestly, looks like it was just some random wishful thinking from Zelenskyy, nothing more

tweet

It makes perfect sense that nothing is being closed; I mean, Erdogan is a total fox, much like how Vučić operates.
The guy basically manages to sit in five different chairs at the exact same time.
driftingfox66 driftingfox66 Active Member
57 messages
joined Aug 2017
#1888 ·
Gary Wilson said:It looks like the Chinese are shifting their strategy—specifically by tightening the screws on financial transactions involving Russia.

There is a very real possibility that China will start using this as leverage to blackmail them.

After this whole mess, their best-case scenario is just becoming a junior partner to China.
Joshua Garcia12 Joshua Garcia12 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2019
#1889 ·
velvetcyclist95 said:No matter how this plays out, NATO needs to be actively working to undermine the Russian Federation and get Putin's regime replaced.

Oh, really?

You mean more "exporting democracy" via the US style? And in Russia, of all places?

That sounds like some pure fantasy to me. 🤣
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#1890 ·
Roger Fowler said:Speaking as an engineer on the technical side, they certainly have more potential than, say, the North America. If you were even remotely technically literate, you would know that Ukraine once had a massive aerospace industry; in fact, European space rockets actually utilize Ukrainian rocket engines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RD-843

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...n-ukraine.html

This is just one example of many things Ukraine offers. Since you're bringing up prosperity, it’s pretty obvious that a country like America would benefit far more by importing educated professionals from a nation like Ukraine than by taking in people like you from some godforsaken place where they were still using wooden plows to till the dirt.

In Denmark, we have academic inflation—a bunch of unemployed intellectuals—yet everyone keeps droning on about "importing skilled labor." Denmark has been overhauled by this supposed skilled workforce, but honestly, you need to take that "skilled labor" claim with a massive grain of salt around here.

Denmark barely does any business with Ukraine. A handful of Danes in the IT sector moved there just for the cheap labor. Plus, Ukraine isn't even an EU member.

Business between Denmark and Ukraine has been almost purely symbolic. I couldn't tell you how things stood between America and Ukraine regarding that kind of thing.
bluepuma9 bluepuma9 Active Member
69 messages
joined Jun 2018
#1891 ·
swiftjackal11 said:Putin basically breathed life back into NATO. If this war drags on for even ten more days, he’ll have succeeded in turning the entire world against him. By next year, his victory parade in Moscow will probably only have two guests showing up: Vučić and Lukashenko.
(Dave, February 26, 2022 2:16 PM)

If Putin even shows up to the parade at all... 😬
William Anderson5 William Anderson5 Active Member
219 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1892 ·
Charles Fox said:He certainly didn't launch this for fun or out of boredom.
Political sociopaths have always existed, and they aren't going anywhere. Unfortunately, innocent people are always the ones caught in the crossfire of their greed, while those responsible stay tucked away safely, leaving others to pay the ultimate price.
I'm not taking sides here. If you want to pick a team, go ahead—go grab your gear and see how long you actually last.

And which war was started without a reason?
Justin Rogers5 Justin Rogers5 Active Member
214 messages
joined Feb 2010
#1893 ·
Jeremy Peterson4 said:Look, buddy, just take the hint and walk away from this thread. This isn't really your scene. Why don't you go take some selfies for Instagram and focus on chasing likes instead?

Oh, thanks a million!🙂That’s honestly the nicest compliment I’ve ever gotten. I should probably update my profile pic, this one is ancient.
But I don't have Instagram or any other social media. Maybe I should start? Then again, I've never even taken a selfie, but how hard can it be?🤔
I'm staying. I actually like it here.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#1894 ·
Tyler Jones6 said:The proposed $6.4 billion emergency aid package for Ukraine appears to have both Democratic and Republican backing.

Out of that $6.4 billion total—I suppose we should look at the breakdown—$3.5 billion is earmarked for military aid via the Pentagon, while the remaining $2.9 billion is intended for economic and humanitarian support.

Way to go, America!

The White House asked Congress on Friday to provide $ 6.4 billion to Help Ukraine in its fight against Russia's invasion, according to multiple reports.

The funding would be divided—with $3.5 billion directed to the Pentagon and $2.9 billion allocated toward security assistance, humanitarian relief, economic stabilization, and regional initiatives—an administration official told Axios.

"As The President and bipartisan members of Congress have made clear , The United States is committed to supporting The Ukrainian People as They defend their country and democracy," Office of Management and Budget said in a statement.

That is a massive amount of financial support.
neonpuma30 neonpuma30 Member
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joined Aug 2020
#1895 ·
Keith Williams3 said:It’s not like Ukraine needs to be in NATO just for the US to send them weapons or turn the place into a base facing Russia.

The whole point of NATO membership is really just that "collective defense" clause. But even without that official tie-in, Ukraine can still pose a threat to Russia if they're basically under the US thumb.

And hey, we've seen this play out before.

Russia just wanted everyone to get out of Ukraine.

Actually, Russia—or rather, Putin—didn't ask for anything and didn't negotiate at all. He didn't sit down at the table, he didn't even drop an ultimatum or set a deadline for terms. It was a total coward move, attacking under the cover of night after lying through his teeth that nothing would happen. He didn't even officially declare war! Talk about massive violations of international laws of war.
Frank Walker7 Frank Walker7 Active Member
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joined Jul 2013
#1896 ·
Betty Murphy3 said:In Putin's case, he isn't physically imposing, yet he carries this massive arrogance—this sense of superiority over those he deems weaker. How should we interpret that? Is it the standard interpretation most people jump to? I call it an inferiority complex, or perhaps just a byproduct of his height. It's clearly something he struggles with.

Since he couldn't possibly pull off what his army is doing in Ukraine on his own, feel free to philosophize all you want about how his physique doesn't affect his decisions. Honestly, I’m curious—how would he fare in a one-on-one fight with a Ukrainian or a Russian man of average height? Someone who talks big about rats and cornered animals? Brrr, I'm shaking; I'm terrified. I just wonder how cold his eyes would look if, standing at 6'2", I grabbed him by the head at shoulder level. Would he still act so arrogant and powerful while issuing threats to Finland, Sweden, and everyone else from some basement under the Kremlin?

The moment his subordinates sit or stand ten yards away from him, you know exactly what time it is. It is incredible that people here still fail to grasp the reality of the situation based on examples like this. It isn't just that they fear him; he fears them too. That tells you everything you need to know about the actual dynamic at play.

6'2", huh? Yeah, right, as if you were some big shot like Regoč.

You definitely have some intense fantasies going on there; I bet you're dreaming about throwing hands with Putin in your living room lol.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1897 ·
Bradley King said:It sounds absolutely insane, I know, but honestly? It might actually be a win-win if Putin and the Russians were brought into NATO... They’d probably end up living much better lives than they are right now.

Well, there was actually an attempt at that right after the USSR collapsed, but the Americans basically just kept them on ice until they eventually gave up on waiting.
Betty Murphy3 Betty Murphy3 Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1898 ·
velvetcyclist95 said:https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/s...44371624943617

Belarus, right near Buffalo, right on the edge of the NATO border. Supposedly starting today.

And then we have our folks here, blindly following a clown—honestly, do they really think he isn't ready for World War III? Have they all just forgotten about Hitler, Stalin, and the rest of that crew? As if all that happened a thousand years ago rather than just last century. Incredible people—truly incredible—I read this stuff and I can hardly believe my eyes.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active Member
88 messages
joined Sep 2021
#1899 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Man, Medvedev has seriously lost his marbles this time...

- Even diplomatic ties aren't really necessary anymore - he wrote.

- It's high time we just padlocked the embassies and limited our contact to staring at each other through binoculars and rifle scopes - he claims.


Everything is just going down the drain at 3 pm..
🤦

just like North Korea
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
408 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1900 ·
jadetinker85 said:Pornhub blocks users from Russia

What sanctions? 🤣

It seems our cultural institutions are jumping on the bandwagon too 😲

The Philadelphia Orchestra has pulled several Tchaikovsky pieces from their program due to the situation in Ukraine

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