The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

neonbison6 said:A street in Ukraine—it’s not just about the tanks and the gear, it’s about having pure heart.
Footage shows intense close-quarters combat, plus those Javelins are doing their job.

Man, these guys walk around like they don't even care if a burst of gunfire catches them.

So, did Zelenskyy personally and intentionally spread the fake news about Turkey closing the straits?
That clown is starting to look like he’s actively fueling the potential for a massive war in Europe on behalf of someone else.

Carl Lee27 said:Can we really call these weapon shipments anything other than direct interference in the conflict? I mean, if this keeps up, could the fallout hitting the Netherlands, Slovakia, and Poland be something they’ve never even witnessed in their entire history?
Or was the little guy just talking nonsense?

Look, Russia can't say a damn thing to Ukraine about who they buy weapons from or how they do it. You've got two sovereign nations trading conventional arms that aren't under any sanctions. It's pretty straightforward business.

We are dealing with a massive infodemic right now.
I personally stick to The Morning Post and The Evening Post,
while keeping an eye on German or Austrian outlets,
along with Reuters and Associated Press.
In my view, those remain the most concrete sources available.
I give CNN, Index, RT, and the like a wide berth,
as do most government agencies on either side of the aisle,
and I haven't used unverified Twitter profiles as a news source
since the Arab Spring.
The constant linking of random Twitter garbage is genuinely irritating,
especially when it turns out to be old footage from last year or just a video game.
One might naively assume that this level of technological and internet advancement
would lead to greater transparency in tracking conflicts,
but it really just adds to the confusion and information chaos.

People love to make fun of these restrictions, acting like they’re just minor inconveniences, but let’s be real—they aren't trivial. It’s not like being banned from FIFA, Eurovision, or even Pornhub. This is about sending a message to Russia. The goal is to show them they’ve managed to turn the entire world against them, where some remote backwater gets more "rights" than people living in one of the most powerful nations on Earth. They want to fly to Europe? Too bad. Delta Air Lines isn't going to be flying them halfway across the Atlantic through closed airspace.
In this day and age, if the Wi-Fi cuts out, everyone loses their minds like the world is ending. Sometimes, these small, annoying things actually carry more weight for the average person than SWIFT ever will, since most regular folks don't even understand how that works anyway.

Rebecca Lewis7 said:

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Good grief, do you honestly believe that everyone is just going to sit on their hands to avoid accidentally bruising the ego of some lunatic in Moscow? Are we all losing our minds? I refuse to believe we should be held hostage by that bald man's temper tantrums.

Colleagues, I am suggesting we set our sights on Kyiv. Honestly, what exactly are we waiting for? It is high time we stepped up to assist our Ukrainian brothers.

It is precisely because of politicians such as yourselves that we find ourselves in this predicament.

And even those naive Ukrainians went after the Russians. It is entirely predictable that everyone—especially those actually paying attention—has realized they’ve been left high and dry.

It is rather akin to standing in a dive bar in Chicago, attempting to convince a group of intoxicated fools that they might actually stand a chance against Mike Tyson, all while promising them your unwavering support. Once those drunken idiots inevitably charge forward, only to be met with a brutal beating, the very same agitators who egged them on will flee the scene. They will then pivot instantly to protesting and calling for sanctions against Tyson, all while comfortably sipping their beers in a private booth.

People remain naively gullible when it comes to hospital protocols, whether they are being told they need a cast or are being ushered into surgery.

It is truly remarkable how those armchair activists manage to protest from such a comfortable distance, offering nothing but empty rhetoric. They make grand announcements about sending aid, yet their entire contribution seems limited to little things like Band-Aids, or perhaps some coffee and snacks for the hospital staff.

It is remarkably easy to play the critic when you’re operating from the sidelines; try facing the music yourself before you start lecturing others.

The only ones truly abandoned are the Russian soldiers—whom Putin didn't even bother to tell were going to war against Ukraine—and the families of the 4,000 dead Russian soldiers, who likely don't even know yet that their sons, brothers, and husbands died in Ukraine just because some old fool is trying to resurrect the Soviet Union through sheer force and the blood of the innocent.

Michael Davis10 said:I don't think there's ever been more propaganda than the stuff we've been dealing with since the Gulf War.

The whole corona situation had similar—maybe even bigger—propaganda levels, where all the Western media outlets and politicians basically acted as one single unit. It feels just like this. You can't even browse the web without running into some Ukrainian outlet pushing an angle.

velvetcyclist95 said:https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/s...44371624943617

Belarus, right near Buffalo, right on the edge of the NATO border. Supposedly starting today.

Could be gearing up for a land push toward Lviv.

rowdytiger13 said:If that’s actually true, then the Sultan is quite the legend.

Even if he is still a dictator.

Took him two whole days just to cook up an excuse. Honestly, those ships better not be sitting right off the coast of Istanbul. 😛

Keith Williams3 said:It’s not like Ukraine needs to be in NATO just for the US to send them weapons or turn the place into a base facing Russia.

The whole point of NATO membership is really just that "collective defense" clause. But even without that official tie-in, Ukraine can still pose a threat to Russia if they're basically under the US thumb.

And hey, we've seen this play out before.

Russia just wanted everyone to get out of Ukraine.

Exactly. That's right.

Susan Jackson65 said:What would actually happen if a legitimately elected government in Mexico suddenly announced they were pivoting toward a communist regime and seeking a military and economic alliance with Russia and China?

How exactly would the USA respond to such a move?

Look, the reality is that a legitimately elected government in Mexico doesn't actually have control over a huge chunk of its own territory, and even where they technically "rule," it’s mostly just on paper. Plus, let's be real—those drug cartels would probably be the very last people on Earth interested in switching over to a communist system.

Justin Rogers5 said:They should've just stuck to the Minsk agreements and we wouldn't be here. Look, Vladimir Putin isn't exactly sane, but do you really want some Walking dead dofura nuklearka statistician showing up in your backyard?
Americans carry a massive chunk of the blame for this mess. Ever since that clown started shouting "America First," they've been looking out for themselves while everyone else pays the price. Honestly, watching that dried-up mummy Nancy Pelosi struggle with basic geography just makes me want to weep.🤦

It’s all down to Putin's mindset—the very reason he’s waging war against a neighboring nation in an attempt to reshape it into a version of Russia.

And one more question for those who constantly spin these theories—where exactly is the evidence for such claims?

Directly from the CIA headquarters in D.C.?

God, what’s next? Are we going to see the US stationing nukes in Turkey again just to keep Russia within striking distance? It makes you wonder—why exactly is Putin selling everything to Erdogan? Why hasn't he gone to war with Turkey after that whole mess with his plane being shot down? Is it all just part of the game?

He knows that if Turkey decides to turn its back on him and starts playing ball with the Americans, he’s going to be left out in the cold—just another guy playing a losing hand, as some might say.

Turkey holds an incredibly strategic position—thanks to the Bosphorus and its proximity to the Black Sea—but their importance goes deeper than geography. They aren't naive. Unlike some others in this conflict, they actually have the teeth to back up their interests. Their military is already battle-tested and exceptionally well-equipped—arguably in a much stronger position than the Ukrainians.

So, Putin—driven by that classic, small-minded inferiority complex—is back at it, acting like the neighborhood bully who only feels powerful when he's flexing on someone weaker. It’s the same old story. That’s likely why Turkey stayed so calm even after he had their pilot taken out.

That just goes to show how dangerous a mind like that can be—that little CIA plant and the way he actually operates.

Nobody supports Biden right now—and honestly, nobody would support him even if he actually pulled this off. I’ll be the first to say I wouldn't back Americans deploying a missile shield in Ukraine. Why would anyone want to see nuclear saber-rattling happening right on Russia's doorstep? It puts all of Europe and our own interests at risk. Between that and Putin's current madness—claiming Ukraine doesn't even exist—it feels like everyone is just quoting Hitler at this point.

Let’s be clear—even Hitler didn't deny the existence of Poles or Jews. He leaned heavily into stereotypes, sure, but he never claimed they weren't there. This guy, however, decided to take it a step further by claiming Ukrainians don't even exist and that Ukraine shouldn't be a sovereign state at all. Now he’s acting surprised that Ukrainians haven't just laid down their arms after three days? They’re fighting because they have to. They’re facing a massive, heavily armed adversary while dealing with their own corrupt politicians who steered them straight into this mess. But they realize one thing: the alternative—dealing with a certain CIA-style dwarf—is far more dangerous than anything else they're facing. If they surrender now, they aren't just losing a war; they’re losing their future. Who knows how long it would be before they couldn't even claim they exist on their own soil?

So, he’s actually looking to negotiate now—right after threatening to wipe them from existence? It makes you wonder: what kind of nation on earth would ever sit at the table with someone who publicly vows to erase their very history before the eyes of the world? Or worse, someone who has already gone ahead and deleted their entire past?

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Michael Davis10 said:I guess you can't even start a war unless you've planned for at least 3 or 4 months of fighting first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyday_war

Months of planning aren't strictly necessary.
I have a feeling things aren't going according to plan anyway.

Richard Wilson4 said:If they weren't embarrassed after Crimea, they definitely won't be now...

It's a different story this time. Over there, the Russians have the numbers.

brightheron64 said:It seems our cultural institutions are jumping on the bandwagon too 😲

The Philadelphia Orchestra has pulled several Tchaikovsky pieces from their program due to the situation in Ukraine

Total nonsense, honestly. It’s like Tchaikovsky has anything to do with Putin! 🤦

Michael Davis10 said:It’d be pretty interesting to see how NATO reacts if Putin, say, wiped out Amsterdam since the Dutch don't have nukes.
Would someone like Biden or Macron actually risk London or Paris by hitting back at Moscow?

The British and Americans seem perfectly willing to wage war against Russia and China until the very last Australian, Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Czech, American, Korean, Japanese, Estonian, Canadian, or Slovakian stands.

And they will certainly continue to offer us their unwavering support through rhetoric, and by "gifting" us weaponry on credit—debt that we will eventually settle by handing over our real estate.

Keith Morgan10 said:This whole propaganda machine feels a lot like what we saw with Armenia. It’s always "Armenia did this" or "Armenians did that," and then suddenly, one day, the Armenians emerge from their basements waving white flags, acting like they never even had an army to begin with.
I'm not saying Ukraine is the exact same situation, but I honestly think it's better to just stay patient and wait things out.

Look, I won't have any issues admitting that the Ukrainians and the media were actually right this time—they really did mop the floor with the Russians. But let's be real, the end doesn't look like it's anywhere near in sight.

Yeah, I see this as a pessimistic scenario too, but there's definitely something to it...

Really hope I'm wrong though.

If this war drags on any longer, I’m betting those daily stipends for all you loudmouth Russian trolls on these forums are gonna dry up—and honestly? That’s the dream. We might finally get a chance to catch our breath without you guys constantly breathing down our necks. Seriously, I am so incredibly done with you people.

Turkey blocks Russian warships from passing through

Carl Hill6 said:If it’s such a problem, why didn't they just attack NATO instead of Ukraine?

Because she didn't want World War III, even if the USA keeps pushing her buttons everywhere.