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2021/2022 School Year

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jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#81 ·
slysurfer14 said:Look, I've gotten the point. People are dying every single day. My sister-in-law ended up in the hospital today and we still don't even know what happened...
So now we aren't allowed to breathe because someone got vaccinated and landed in the 😁hospital? Who's to say the shots aren't the reason they're lying there? I know two people who caught Corona right after their shots and now both are dead... died because of the vaccine, so what now?

I also knew a woman who passed away after getting vaccinated. Then people act surprised when some healthcare workers decide they aren't interested in getting the shot.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 VeteranOP
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#82 ·
jadetinker85 said:Of course you get the point. You were the one saying those who are afraid should just go get vaccinated.
But once I bring up the example of someone who’s had two shots and is now stuck in diapers on supplemental oxygen, suddenly you don't get the point?

Look, I know a guy who smoked a pack a day his whole life and lived to be 90, but I also know a woman who never touched a cigarette in her life and died of lung cancer at 50.

We could go on like this forever.
slysurfer14 slysurfer14 Active Member
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#83 ·
jadetinker85 said:It's not that I haven't "stepped foot" in a school; I've been doing this all year without a single issue. Wasting too much time sharing screens? That's one mouse click. Come on, find a better excuse.🙄

"Staring at a screen isn't it"? I'd love to hear a student say that just once🤣. You can always write the problem out on paper and just hold it up so everyone can see.

And where exactly is this 99% of people with bad internet living??? Unless you're tucked away in some remote mountain range, it's hard to buy.

Like 80% of rural Appalachia, maybe.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#84 ·
Larry Walker24 said:Look, I know a guy who smoked a pack a day his whole life and lived to be 90, but I also know a woman who never touched a cigarette in her life and died of lung cancer at 50.

We could go on like this forever.

She probably lived in a basement or worked somewhere with high radon levels. That gas will kill you just as dead without ever needing to light up a single cigarette.

https://cancer-code-europe.iarc.fr/i...oze-uzrokovati

It's funny how people always link cigarettes to lung cancer, while radon seems like a total mystery to most. You can find it in basements all over Washington, D.C., if you look for it.
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#85 ·
jadetinker85 said:It's not that I haven't "stepped foot" in a school; I've been doing this all year without a single issue. Wasting too much time sharing screens? That's one mouse click. Come on, find a better excuse.🙄

"Staring at a screen isn't it"? I'd love to hear a student say that just once🤣. You can always write the problem out on paper and just hold it up so everyone can see.

And where exactly is this 99% of people with bad internet living??? Unless you're tucked away in some remote mountain range, it's hard to buy.

It’s actually surprising how many people living in apartment complexes in Washington, D.C. struggle with decent internet, especially when everyone tries to log on at once.
I know of at least three different companies—and there were probably more—where employees were practically begging to head back into the office. When schools went fully online, the bandwidth hit such a breaking point that their connections went from being mediocre to absolutely disastrous, making it impossible to get any real work done from home.

Teachers aren't the only ones dealing with this.

And yeah, there are plenty of students out there who just don't have high-speed internet at home either.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#86 ·
jadetinker85 said:She probably lived in a basement or worked somewhere with high radon levels. That gas will kill you just as dead without ever needing to light up a single cigarette.

https://cancer-code-europe.iarc.fr/i...oze-uzrokovati

It's funny how people always link cigarettes to lung cancer, while radon seems like a total mystery to most. You can find it in basements all over Washington, D.C., if you look for it.

It's because 80% of people with lung cancer are smokers. So, I guess there isn't a direct cause-and-effect link, but the correlation is incredibly high.
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
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#87 ·
Susan James said:It’s actually surprising how many people living in apartment complexes in Washington, D.C. struggle with decent internet, especially when everyone tries to log on at once.
I know of at least three different companies—and there were probably more—where employees were practically begging to head back into the office. When schools went fully online, the bandwidth hit such a breaking point that their connections went from being mediocre to absolutely disastrous, making it impossible to get any real work done from home.

Teachers aren't the only ones dealing with this.

And yeah, there are plenty of students out there who just don't have high-speed internet at home either.

It’s not just about the buildings, either. I could only host my video calls without everything lagging if I switched over to my mobile data. Honestly, what a dummy I was—if I had just used my data plan right at the start of remote learning, I would've saved a fortune.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#88 ·
Look, we didn't have any technical glitches over here, so you could have just coordinated with the students to find a time that actually works for everyone. Staying late for a 6th or 7th period when we're all already dead on our feet isn't exactly doing you any favors.
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#89 ·
jadetinker85 said:Look, we didn't have any technical glitches over here, so you could have just coordinated with the students to find a time that actually works for everyone. Staying late for a 6th or 7th period when we're all already dead on our feet isn't exactly doing you any favors.

So, what's stopping you? If things are working so smoothly for you, why not just keep running everything exactly the way you are now?
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#90 ·
Susan James said:So, what's stopping you? If things are working so smoothly for you, why not just keep running everything exactly the way you are now?

If I had my way, I'd keep running everything according to Model C indefinitely. 🤷
fadedranger162 fadedranger162 Active Member
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#91 ·
jadetinker85 said:It's not that I haven't "stepped foot" in a school; I've been doing this all year without a single issue. Wasting too much time sharing screens? That's one mouse click. Come on, find a better excuse.🙄

"Staring at a screen isn't it"? I'd love to hear a student say that just once🤣. You can always write the problem out on paper and just hold it up so everyone can see.

And where exactly is this 99% of people with bad internet living??? Unless you're tucked away in some remote mountain range, it's hard to buy.

And you're supposedly a teacher? Seriously? That was a stellar response to a student who was just telling you everything was working perfectly. 👍
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#92 ·
When people claim screen sharing eats up all their time, I start questioning if they’re actually students. It's usually someone who doesn't know where to click; for anyone else, it's a split-second task.
Tyler Ruiz502 Tyler Ruiz502 Active Member
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#93 ·
Ashley Davis6 said:Have any of you actually walked into a school and seen how things work there?

It just doesn't work. As students, we really hate this way of learning, especially when it's for extra help or tutoring. There are constant technical glitches, and too much time gets wasted just trying to share screens and type since most people aren't using touchpads—they're struggling with mice. Plus, like 99% of us don't have great internet, so everything lags. The audio is always out of sync with the video. You just can't do math, chemistry, or physics this way.
We really miss face-to-face classes. Staring at a screen isn't the same thing.

jadetinker85 said:When people claim screen sharing eats up all their time, I start questioning if they’re actually students. It's usually someone who doesn't know where to click; for anyone else, it's a split-second task.

I suggested sharing the screen and typing things out because... look, screen sharing is easy enough, but if you’re stuck staring at someone’s monitor while they’re fumbling around clumsily or struggling through some awkward task, you’re just wasting precious time. Plus—and this is a big one—if the connection starts acting up, the audio tends to get all glitchy and cut out anyway.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#94 ·
Tyler Ruiz502 said:I suggested sharing the screen and typing things out because... look, screen sharing is easy enough, but if you’re stuck staring at someone’s monitor while they’re fumbling around clumsily or struggling through some awkward task, you’re just wasting precious time. Plus—and this is a big one—if the connection starts acting up, the audio tends to get all glitchy and cut out anyway.

That’s where I get tripped up too. Screens are constantly flipping around, they have to transcribe everything, and then the professor is trying to explain things and quiz them at the exact same time.
In the end, they don't even finish copying it down, so they have to go back and do it later—and then if they need her to explain something else on top of that... it's just a mess. Honestly, teaching math online is a total nightmare.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#95 ·
mellowskipper said:That’s where I get tripped up too. Screens are constantly flipping around, they have to transcribe everything, and then the professor is trying to explain things and quiz them at the exact same time.
In the end, they don't even finish copying it down, so they have to go back and do it later—and then if they need her to explain something else on top of that... it's just a mess. Honestly, teaching math online is a total nightmare.

Honestly, all this constant copying seems weird to me. Sure, show a few problems as an example, but after that, it should just be practice, practice, and more practice using the workbook.
The focus should be on maximizing practice, not maximizing transcription.
electricfalcon77 electricfalcon77 Newcomer
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#96 ·
jadetinker85 said:If I had my way, I'd keep running everything according to Model C indefinitely. 🤷

I'm not quite sure which specific methods you're referring to, but there's a very good reason why nobody relied on online instructions before this pandemic hit. Traditionally, students and instructors have always sat down face-to-face for math, physics, and other subjects.

In my experience working as a teaching assistant, I've helped students remotely, and let me tell you—it is definitely not easy, even when you have a rock-solid internet connection.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#97 ·
electricfalcon77 said:I'm not quite sure which specific methods you're referring to, but there's a very good reason why nobody relied on online instructions before this pandemic hit. Traditionally, students and instructors have always sat down face-to-face for math, physics, and other subjects.

In my experience working as a teaching assistant, I've helped students remotely, and let me tell you—it is definitely not easy, even when you have a rock-solid internet connection.

Fair enough... a teaching assistant. You’re working with students who actually need the help, which is a different ballgame.

That's not just some kid looking for a quick clarification or a little extra practice.
In my subject, nobody needed tutoring just to scrape by with a passing grade, though I have heard of a few people aiming for an A.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#98 ·
jadetinker85 said:Honestly, all this constant copying seems weird to me. Sure, show a few problems as an example, but after that, it should just be practice, practice, and more practice using the workbook.
The focus should be on maximizing practice, not maximizing transcription.

On the other hand, they only get assigned maybe two or three problems for homework. That's just not enough. Math is—as you pointed out—all about continuous practice and grinding away at it every single day. And that goes for most kids, I guess. That's why I actually started an extra notebook for them and basically solve every single problem in the workbook. There's really no other way... though, of course, that requires a lot of my own extra effort.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 VeteranOP
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#99 ·
mellowskipper said:That’s where I get tripped up too. Screens are constantly flipping around, they have to transcribe everything, and then the professor is trying to explain things and quiz them at the exact same time.
In the end, they don't even finish copying it down, so they have to go back and do it later—and then if they need her to explain something else on top of that... it's just a mess. Honestly, teaching math online is a total nightmare.

Why doesn't she just upload a PowerPoint presentation to the docs? That's how I handle things.

I'll explain everything clearly, and then everyone can just copy whatever they want whenever they feel like it.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#100 ·
I’ve cut back on the transcription work to the bare minimum. It’s mostly just talking and getting plenty of practice, and that’s really all there is to it.

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