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Am I an alcoholic?

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briskbison47 briskbison47 Member
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#61 ·
Jose Myers87 said:There are different breeds of alcoholics out there. You’ve got the steady sippers—the ones who just nurse a drink all day and somehow stay upright—and then you’ve got the ones with absolutely zero off switch, people who just chase the blackout until they hit the floor. At first glance, the second group looks worse, doesn't it? But honestly, they hit the wall much sooner. They face the music fast. The sippers? They can lie to themselves for decades.

Take that woman mentioned in the original post, claiming she knocks back half a liter of wine every single day. To me, that sounds like science fiction. I was always a lightweight; there is no universe where I could sip half a liter of wine and just sit there acting normal. I used to be able to stay stone-cold sober for stretches, but once I finally cracked? It was game over. I’d go from nothing to slamming two or three liters of hard liquor a day, only to wake up a week later in some random town in Ohio, having no clue who I was with or how I even got there.

The symptoms just kept getting more violent. By the time I hit 30, I had no choice but to quit. The seizures were getting worse, the sweating, the tremors... it was brutal. I stumbled a few times after that, sure, but I’ve been clean since I was 32. That’s eight years now. Meanwhile, some of my old drinking buddies are still stuck in the cycle because they weren't like me—they thought they "knew" how to control it. Now? Their marriages are trashed and they're drowning in debt.

Yeah, those "moderators"—the ones who just "fuel" themselves with wine and beer without ever hitting the heavy stuff, the ones who can go an entire Christmas without a drop... those are my favorite people to take a sarcastic jab at. To be honest, I have zero respect for casual drinkers. Not ex-drinkers, mind you—in fact, former addicts are usually superheroes in my book.
The ones who think they've "mastered" it are all identical. Clones. Just ask their families and they’ll all recite the exact same story like parrots. It's pathetic.
Jose Myers87 said:It’s weird that there aren't more active threads about alcoholism going on here, or maybe I just missed something? Because in the real world, this thing is everywhere.

I just wanted to share a bit of my own experience—that specific moment when you realize you've actually become an alcoholic. Back when I was a teenager, if I went out drinking and ended up breaking up with some girl, I’d take ownership of it. It felt like my life, my mistakes, my stuff. But then it happened to me in my early 20s. Suddenly, when I'm drinking heavily, I don't even feel like I'm participating anymore. Once the hangover hits, I'm just totally detached from everything that happened. It’s like those hours were stolen from me. They don't feel like "my" memories anymore; it’s more like someone else lived through them while I was blacked out. I guess that's the exact moment the alcohol takes over everything. And then the cycle starts all over again, because even on the days you aren't wasted, you find yourself needing a little nudge just to reclaim that lost time and feel like a normal person.

Why even discuss addiction here? This isn't the right platform for it. Trying to shatter an addict's delusions and force them to look at the internal totems they refuse to acknowledge has to be a painful, bloody process. Honestly, I wouldn't mind getting banned after dropping a few sarcastic bombs intended to dismantle the practiced patterns addicts use to manipulate everyone around them.
Carl Mendoza52 said:Most people are problematic consumers. If you're shaking without a drink and going through withdrawal is a health risk, then you’re an alcoholic.

Do you seriously believe someone is only an addict if they're dealing with the tremors? Give me a break. That’s like claiming you aren't hooked on heroin until you're injecting it straight into your $33
Carl Mendoza52 Carl Mendoza52 Member
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#62 ·
Comparing this to heroin isn't quite the best analogy. Heroin has a much more intense "kick," and the withdrawal process hits differently than alcohol, which has such a massive spectrum of dependency. Heroin addiction is pretty binary—much like how a woman can't be "slightly pregnant." An addict has to rely on methadone and go through a very slow recovery process, similar to how an alcoholic can't just quit by simply changing their habits or mindset. Most people who drink regularly are dealing with a psychological dependency. Very few people actually stop at two drinks on a Saturday night without feeling that pull for a third.
briskbison47 briskbison47 Member
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#63 ·
Carl Mendoza52 said:Comparing this to heroin isn't quite the best analogy. Heroin has a much more intense "kick," and the withdrawal process hits differently than alcohol, which has such a massive spectrum of dependency. Heroin addiction is pretty binary—much like how a woman can't be "slightly pregnant." An addict has to rely on methadone and go through a very slow recovery process, similar to how an alcoholic can't just quit by simply changing their habits or mindset. Most people who drink regularly are dealing with a psychological dependency. Very few people actually stop at two drinks on a Saturday night without feeling that pull for a third.

It's actually a solid example because the logic applies equally to both Heroin and alcohol:
- You're either an addict or you aren't. Honestly, trying to categorize the various levels of alcoholism feels like a pointless debate. First, we need to determine if someone is an alcoholic, and then decide if they're someone we need to cut out of our lives entirely or someone we can actually deal with.

Let's be real: Heroin isn't used recreationally, and there's no pretending you aren't addicted (even though those who snort it incredibly believe they're superior to those who inject, which is laughable), but the rule remains the same: you either are or you aren't. There's no middle ground or philosophy involved.

Discussing the "spectrum" of addiction is mostly useful for explaining why certain drinkers try to use "buts" to justify their behavior when there really shouldn't be any "buts."

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