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How to stay positive and keep a good mindset?

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Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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joined Jan 2018
#21 ·
Jacob Mitchell3 said:How does one maintain any semblance of optimism when life feels like being dropped into a horror movie without a script? We are thrown into this chaos without guidance or instructions, forced to endure the friction of our own existence and the presence of others, all while being subject to the cold, indifferent laws of nature. In the end, we all face the same inevitable conclusion: death, leaving behind no answers and vanishing as if we had never been here at all. What is there left to hope for? There are no happy endings written in the stars...

Man, life isn't a horror movie...
We aren't just wandering around cluelessly—we actually know way more now than anyone ever has in history
And it's not about "tolerating" ourselves or others, it's more about just accepting people for who they are
The laws of nature aren't necessarily the bad guys either. I mean, because of them, we get to live maybe 80 years on average, which is actually a huge amount of time compared to most of history
Everything that's born eventually has to pass on to make room for the next generation... honestly, an endless life would be incredibly boring and depressing...
That whole "happy ending" thing is just something we made up, kind of like the idea of a perfect life or eternal love...
Life is actually this amazing experience, and death is just the most normal part of the daily grind...
What can we hope for? Well, good things, love, finding peace with yourself and the people around you, embracing reality, soaking up beauty, just living through experiences, raising kids, learning stuff, working, hanging out, having fun...
Robert Barrett6 Robert Barrett6 Member
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#22 ·
Donna White50 said:Man, life isn't a horror movie...
We aren't just wandering around cluelessly—we actually know way more now than anyone ever has in history
And it's not about "tolerating" ourselves or others, it's more about just accepting people for who they are
The laws of nature aren't necessarily the bad guys either. I mean, because of them, we get to live maybe 80 years on average, which is actually a huge amount of time compared to most of history
Everything that's born eventually has to pass on to make room for the next generation... honestly, an endless life would be incredibly boring and depressing...
That whole "happy ending" thing is just something we made up, kind of like the idea of a perfect life or eternal love...
Life is actually this amazing experience, and death is just the most normal part of the daily grind...
What can we hope for? Well, good things, love, finding peace with yourself and the people around you, embracing reality, soaking up beauty, just living through experiences, raising kids, learning stuff, working, hanging out, having fun...

Look, whose life story is actually a horror show and whose is a fairy tale? Not really up to us. We can't exactly pick which movie we're starring in.

One of the biggest things is just not sweating the small stuff. Stop letting trivialities get under your skin.
shadowangler6 shadowangler6 Newcomer
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#23 ·
You really need to move past that black-and-white way of thinking if you want to make any real headway. There isn't such a thing as an objective "win" or "loss," just like there isn't a simple positive or negative in everything we encounter. The world doesn't operate in shades of strictly black and white, and that applies to our emotions, our lived experiences, our deep reflections, and even our most stubborn beliefs...
If you focus on doing the work, growing, and only measuring your progress against who you were yesterday, you’ll actually start to feel that momentum. It is incredibly easy to just retreat into a corner and wallow in self-pity, but let me tell you, that accomplishes absolutely nothing. You have to approach yourself with the curiosity you'd show a complete stranger, and more importantly, you have to be brutally honest with yourself.

Don't make it your ultimate goal to just strip away all those self-help delusions about self-deception or forced positivity; your actual goal should be to simply live your life. This is especially true if you happen to be someone who is naturally inclined toward melancholy.
Patrick Patel4 Patrick Patel4 Member
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#24 ·
shadowangler6 said:You really need to move past that black-and-white way of thinking if you want to make any real headway. There isn't such a thing as an objective "win" or "loss," just like there isn't a simple positive or negative in everything we encounter. The world doesn't operate in shades of strictly black and white, and that applies to our emotions, our lived experiences, our deep reflections, and even our most stubborn beliefs...
If you focus on doing the work, growing, and only measuring your progress against who you were yesterday, you’ll actually start to feel that momentum. It is incredibly easy to just retreat into a corner and wallow in self-pity, but let me tell you, that accomplishes absolutely nothing. You have to approach yourself with the curiosity you'd show a complete stranger, and more importantly, you have to be brutally honest with yourself.

Don't make it your ultimate goal to just strip away all those self-help delusions about self-deception or forced positivity; your actual goal should be to simply live your life. This is especially true if you happen to be someone who is naturally inclined toward melancholy.

And how exactly do you know what my world looks like? My world *is* black and white. I've got the worst case of BPD, hitting every single symptom except for the hypersexual stuff, which—let's be real—isn't even on my radar. For me, everything is either pitch black or blindingly white. It used to be mostly white back when I was living in this delusion that every little mistake in my tiny universe could be fixed, and that everything would eventually turn out fine if I just tried hard enough. But man, I learned the hard way that sometimes there are no excuses, and there just isn't a second chance.

For the general public, the world is a gradient, not a binary. Everything moves in layers. But for us? It’s either the end of the freaking world or the most beautiful thing that's ever happened.

And look, when you're stuck in that specific mental loop, there really isn't much anyone can "do" about it, right? Yeah, sure, there's "self-work" and there's medication, but that’s a grind that lasts years. Are you really going to spend a quarter of your life trying to fix that, or do you just accept it and move on, finding support through other people or even just through media? Honestly, I don't have the energy to spend ten years or more sitting in support groups just to try and strip it away or learn how to cope. It’s exhausting, and the vibe depends entirely on the people you're stuck with. New people rotate in, old ones leave, it’s constant chaos.

But hey, I'm strictly speaking from my own perspective and for those of us dealing with BPD.
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#25 ·
Patrick Patel4 said:And how exactly do you know what my world looks like? My world *is* black and white. I've got the worst case of BPD, hitting every single symptom except for the hypersexual stuff, which—let's be real—isn't even on my radar. For me, everything is either pitch black or blindingly white. It used to be mostly white back when I was living in this delusion that every little mistake in my tiny universe could be fixed, and that everything would eventually turn out fine if I just tried hard enough. But man, I learned the hard way that sometimes there are no excuses, and there just isn't a second chance.

For the general public, the world is a gradient, not a binary. Everything moves in layers. But for us? It’s either the end of the freaking world or the most beautiful thing that's ever happened.

And look, when you're stuck in that specific mental loop, there really isn't much anyone can "do" about it, right? Yeah, sure, there's "self-work" and there's medication, but that’s a grind that lasts years. Are you really going to spend a quarter of your life trying to fix that, or do you just accept it and move on, finding support through other people or even just through media? Honestly, I don't have the energy to spend ten years or more sitting in support groups just to try and strip it away or learn how to cope. It’s exhausting, and the vibe depends entirely on the people you're stuck with. New people rotate in, old ones leave, it’s constant chaos.

But hey, I'm strictly speaking from my own perspective and for those of us dealing with BPD.

I mean, none of us really have many options... we can fight it, or we can just give in...
Sometimes it's both, one right after the other...
Being aware of the diagnosis is step one, but step two is learning how to actually live with it and trying to fix what's fixable, I guess...
We all have these massive walls built up around us. You just learn to live with them, accept who you are, and try to appreciate the good stuff whenever it shows up...
shadowangler6 shadowangler6 Newcomer
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#26 ·
Patrick Patel4 said:And how exactly do you know what my world looks like? My world *is* black and white. I've got the worst case of BPD, hitting every single symptom except for the hypersexual stuff, which—let's be real—isn't even on my radar. For me, everything is either pitch black or blindingly white. It used to be mostly white back when I was living in this delusion that every little mistake in my tiny universe could be fixed, and that everything would eventually turn out fine if I just tried hard enough. But man, I learned the hard way that sometimes there are no excuses, and there just isn't a second chance.

For the general public, the world is a gradient, not a binary. Everything moves in layers. But for us? It’s either the end of the freaking world or the most beautiful thing that's ever happened.

And look, when you're stuck in that specific mental loop, there really isn't much anyone can "do" about it, right? Yeah, sure, there's "self-work" and there's medication, but that’s a grind that lasts years. Are you really going to spend a quarter of your life trying to fix that, or do you just accept it and move on, finding support through other people or even just through media? Honestly, I don't have the energy to spend ten years or more sitting in support groups just to try and strip it away or learn how to cope. It’s exhausting, and the vibe depends entirely on the people you're stuck with. New people rotate in, old ones leave, it’s constant chaos.

But hey, I'm strictly speaking from my own perspective and for those of us dealing with BPD.

I commented on the original post regarding the search for a positive outlook because I truly believe that abstract, generalized values aren't the bedrock for solving internal struggles. Likewise, there is no magic, universal cure for everyone who experiences extreme negative polarization. However, stepping back from a situation and widening one's perspective feels like a much better strategy than constantly swinging between extremes and spinning in the same endless loop. Setting small, manageable micro-tasks for oneself allows for incremental growth, which eventually builds a brighter picture of one's own life. It’s a way to shake off self-pity—if that even exists—along with anger and frustration. These battles of personality are fought within us and alongside ourselves; that is where the true battlefield lies. The moment we step outside our own frame, we run into an endless minefield of noise, comparisons, and distractions, which is far harder to manage than dealing with just one voice and one person.
I only know about FBI-level instability through certain individuals, so I can't truly feel things the way they do to fully grasp their mental landscape. That is why I focused solely on the concept of a "negative personality" without getting bogged down in clinical psychological categories. Black and white. 😁
Carl Brown152 Carl Brown152 Member
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#27 ·
shadowangler6 said:I commented on the original post regarding the search for a positive outlook because I truly believe that abstract, generalized values aren't the bedrock for solving internal struggles. Likewise, there is no magic, universal cure for everyone who experiences extreme negative polarization. However, stepping back from a situation and widening one's perspective feels like a much better strategy than constantly swinging between extremes and spinning in the same endless loop. Setting small, manageable micro-tasks for oneself allows for incremental growth, which eventually builds a brighter picture of one's own life. It’s a way to shake off self-pity—if that even exists—along with anger and frustration. These battles of personality are fought within us and alongside ourselves; that is where the true battlefield lies. The moment we step outside our own frame, we run into an endless minefield of noise, comparisons, and distractions, which is far harder to manage than dealing with just one voice and one person.
I only know about FBI-level instability through certain individuals, so I can't truly feel things the way they do to fully grasp their mental landscape. That is why I focused solely on the concept of a "negative personality" without getting bogged down in clinical psychological categories. Black and white. 😁

And let's be real, the hell inside our own heads can get even worse sometimes. 😁
Charles Young56 Charles Young56 Member
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#28 ·
Jacob Mitchell3 said:How does one maintain any semblance of optimism when life feels like being dropped into a horror movie without a script? We are thrown into this chaos without guidance or instructions, forced to endure the friction of our own existence and the presence of others, all while being subject to the cold, indifferent laws of nature. In the end, we all face the same inevitable conclusion: death, leaving behind no answers and vanishing as if we had never been here at all. What is there left to hope for? There are no happy endings written in the stars...

Life is really just whatever you make of it and how you choose to see it.
It’s not some horror show, I mean, why would it be? Even if things are terrible right now—whether it’s your health, your bank account, or whatever else is going wrong—that doesn't mean things will stay this way forever. Life changes. It shifts. When you're in pain, it doesn't hurt at the exact same intensity forever; eventually, it passes and things get better.

I guess you have eyes and a brain for a reason, right? To observe, to think, basically to learn. You learn from books or from making mistakes—your own or watching others screw up—but the main thing is just moving forward. Just try not to make the same stupid mistake twice.

And honestly, it depends on what kind of answer you're looking for.
Just live and let live, you know? Stop overthinking stuff that's totally out of your control.
You're just stressing yourself out over nonsense.
Maybe try switching to a more useful headspace.
Think about how you can actually make things better for yourself right now.
Just stay in the moment.
wireddrifter29 wireddrifter29 Newcomer
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#29 ·
silvercobra122 said:Hi everyone, I wanted to start a discussion here. If this isn't quite the right spot for it, my apologies to the moderators for any necessary moves.

I couldn't find an existing thread on this, so I decided to create one.

How much optimism do you actually practice? How positive is your general outlook on life?

To be honest, I tend toward negativity. I struggle with deep-seated feelings of inferiority. I truly want to feel that sense of inner warmth and self-love that seems to elude me, and I want to build some actual confidence.

In your eyes, what does a positive approach to life actually look like?
Do you think this is something one can cultivate alone through sheer willpower, or is it better to seek professional help?

I appreciate any advice you can offer, and I’d value hearing your own perspectives on staying positive.

🙂

A pessimist. That's me. I always find myself hoping that certain decisions might lead to something good, only for things to turn out exactly as I feared—the absolute worst-case scenario. It makes optimism feel rather pointless. My outlook on life follows suit. Negative. It's difficult to articulate, but strangely enough, this mindset actually makes *me* feel okay. The issue lies with how I interact with society. To others, I am an incredibly negative presence. That's just the reality of it.

However, I wouldn't call myself inferior, and I suspect you aren't either. I don't experience "self-love" per se, either; instead, I feel a devotion to my ideas, my goals, and the specific people I choose to let into my life. My confidence fluctuates. When I'm dealing with something I know intimately, it's at its peak. In unfamiliar territory, I tend to listen and follow directions until I've grasped the situation.

One thing I have learned about myself: pretending to be a positive person was far more exhausting than simply accepting that I am a negative person. Once I accepted that, everything became somewhat easier. I'm not sure if this even makes sense, but perhaps we weren't all designed to satisfy social norms or the expectations of others. Maybe you're just like me—built with a negative temperament. Such is life.
quietbison86 quietbison86 Active Member
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#30 ·
There’s just no way if it isn't baked into your DNA

I mean, look—I can't wrap my head around how someone who’s naturally neurotic and constantly overanalyzing every little thing could actually maintain a positive outlook. It’s just not realistic, right? Life isn't some sunshine-and-rainbows fairy tale; things go wrong, period.

The only ones who get to be "positive" are the "greens" and the "yellows"—though for the yellows, it's basically an instinct at this point. But even then, since you're wired for neurosis, those "yellows" are probably going to drive you absolutely insane most of the time. You definitely wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

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