Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

I’ve said this before: after issuing nearly half a million passes without even verifying infection status, this kind of measure is just psychological warfare against our own citizens. Other countries suggested limiting movement rather than banning it outright. It’s clear our leadership doesn't trust the American people. However, looking at the data, it seems we actually do respect the experts. The vast majority are following the guidelines set by headquarters, and the results are becoming increasingly evident.

darktinker4 said:Hey, don't get sassy with me. Everything you just listed is wrong anyway. You could travel anywhere within the County, specifically within the municipalities. And in those tiny rural areas where every little village has its own local government, that worked too.

Whatever

Who are we even supposed to call to get a straight answer?

🍿 (I’m a little lost here—so I’ll probably end up looking rude if I chime in 🤣) — but basically, a municipality, a small town, and a county... they aren't the same thing.

Up until April 27th, you could only travel without a permit within your own municipality or city.
Starting April 27th, you can move freely within your county (though I don't think that applies to every single county just yet, 🤷).
If you want to go outside your county, you still need a permit. Or at least, my understanding is that you can only travel between Los Angeles County and the city of Los Angeles right now.

Word on the street is they’re getting rid of those state line checkpoints starting May 11th.

Larry Walker24 said:Word on the street is they’re getting rid of those state line checkpoints starting May 11th.

That would be perfect timing for me since I'm finally coming out of isolation. I haven't been back to my family home in nearly two months, and I really need to head over to the next state to see how the house held up after that earthquake.

Larry Walker24 said:Word on the street is they’re getting rid of those state line checkpoints starting May 11th.

I don't really get this. So, I could just drive from my place in Los Angeles over to San Diego, or maybe Phoenix, or even Austin?
But I wouldn't have been able to head out to Seattle without a permit? 🤔

Alexander Thompson said:I mean, she should have just said she was heading to a wedding instead.

Or maybe just going to church.

electricnomad8 said:I’ve said this before: after issuing nearly half a million passes without even verifying infection status, this kind of measure is just psychological warfare against our own citizens. Other countries suggested limiting movement rather than banning it outright. It’s clear our leadership doesn't trust the American people. However, looking at the data, it seems we actually do respect the experts. The vast majority are following the guidelines set by headquarters, and the results are becoming increasingly evident.

Honestly, that was just a pure panic reaction after everything went down. It was almost instinctually totalitarian: "Freeze, civilian! Attention!"😵

Instead of actually monitoring healthcare workers—so they aren't out wandering around ski resorts or traveling the world during a pandemic—they decide to go after some guy like Duke who's just trying to get to an ATM or a gas station in the next town over. And let's be real, those two towns combined have maybe 1,000 people, most of whom are watching those fancy ski resorts or Milan stadiums on TV and only heading to nursing homes when it's absolutely necessary.

So, Alma has decided we’re stuck with these restrictions for another year:

It doesn't matter if there are elections on the horizon, or what Congress says, or how many laws are passed. Democracy is just a formality at this point because Alma makes all the calls herself.

They’re full of it, honestly. They’ll probably drag their feet and keep everything in this weird limbo until autumn, though the official word is that we might see borders opening up by early June. We really need to save the season, since it's basically the backbone of our entire economy... they aren't going to let the whole thing collapse just because of some little virus.

nimbleharbor10 said:So, Alma has decided we’re stuck with these restrictions for another year:

It doesn't matter if there are elections on the horizon, or what Congress says, or how many laws are passed. Democracy is just a formality at this point because Alma makes all the calls herself.

Label something a pandemic, tally up the deaths in nursing homes and hospitals, and suddenly you're running a dictatorship.

Larry Walker24 said:Word on the street is they’re getting rid of those state line checkpoints starting May 11th.

Based on that press conference Stozer gave today, I doubt this will roll out across the entire US. It’ll probably just be limited to certain counties. And honestly? They’ll likely just end up introducing a bunch of new categories to make up for it.

On a purely personal level—and I know how this sounds—I just can't stomach the idea of needing someone's permission to travel. I can wrap my head around going abroad or heading overseas, sure, but the notion that there are internal borders or restrictions within the States? It just doesn't compute for me. There’s something deeply humiliating about having to ask for leave or clearance from anyone just to move around my own country. If that's how it works, then fine, I'm staying put. Peace out.

Tyler Ruiz502 said:On a purely personal level—and I know how this sounds—I just can't stomach the idea of needing someone's permission to travel. I can wrap my head around going abroad or heading overseas, sure, but the notion that there are internal borders or restrictions within the States? It just doesn't compute for me. There’s something deeply humiliating about having to ask for leave or clearance from anyone just to move around my own country. If that's how it works, then fine, I'm staying put. Peace out.

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Elizabeth Lewis10 said:They’re full of it, honestly. They’ll probably drag their feet and keep everything in this weird limbo until autumn, though the official word is that we might see borders opening up by early June. We really need to save the season, since it's basically the backbone of our entire economy... they aren't going to let the whole thing collapse just because of some little virus.

And then we'll see who's left standing. Maybe the CDC will come up with a vaccine.😁

Our neighbors over in Canada have decided to lift those restrictions on traveling between counties—you know, the same kind of lockdowns we’re dealing with here—starting tomorrow!

It clearly wasn't an easy call for them to make, but hey, whatever happens, it might just force our leaders to pick up the pace and follow suit.

Tyler Ruiz502 said:On a purely personal level—and I know how this sounds—I just can't stomach the idea of needing someone's permission to travel. I can wrap my head around going abroad or heading overseas, sure, but the notion that there are internal borders or restrictions within the States? It just doesn't compute for me. There’s something deeply humiliating about having to ask for leave or clearance from anyone just to move around my own country. If that's how it works, then fine, I'm staying put. Peace out.

I feel the exact same way. Restricting movement is just plain stupid when the rules are supposed to be the same everywhere. With these kinds of lockdowns, nobody is going to want to visit anyone else anyway. Honestly, if we absolutely had to limit movement, I'd much rather be restricted to just a few blocks from my house than being stuck within a single county.

But since things are the way they are, I’ll probably just apply for a permit. It takes two seconds from my armchair and saves me all the hassle—no printing, no waiting in line, and no potential headaches at a checkpoint. Plus, I'd much rather take a walk by the coast... and maybe get a little closer to family while I'm at it.

hollowfox3 said:I feel the exact same way. Restricting movement is just plain stupid when the rules are supposed to be the same everywhere. With these kinds of lockdowns, nobody is going to want to visit anyone else anyway. Honestly, if we absolutely had to limit movement, I'd much rather be restricted to just a few blocks from my house than being stuck within a single county.

But since things are the way they are, I’ll probably just apply for a permit. It takes two seconds from my armchair and saves me all the hassle—no printing, no waiting in line, and no potential headaches at a checkpoint. Plus, I'd much rather take a walk by the coast... and maybe get a little closer to family while I'm at it.

Look, I don't even have any pressing places to be right now, but I want the *option* to go out. I want to be able to just grab my keys and drive around whenever the mood strikes me. The sheer fact that I'm being surrounded by checkpoints designed to strip away my freedom of movement is terrifying to me.

Just look at the logic here—everything is supposedly open, right? Almost everything. Except for enclosed spaces. And local shops.
But the real issue is trying to visit your relatives or elderly parents you haven't seen in six months—since most people only travel during holidays or big family gatherings to see their grandkids and all that.
To actually make that happen, you’re forced to lie. It’s honestly ridiculous.

And even if you play along and claim you're heading out for agricultural work to get a permit—say, two permits for a married couple—what about the kids? Are they just stuck here?
It’s an absolute joke.

Tyler Ruiz502 said:Just look at the logic here—everything is supposedly open, right? Almost everything. Except for enclosed spaces. And local shops.
But the real issue is trying to visit your relatives or elderly parents you haven't seen in six months—since most people only travel during holidays or big family gatherings to see their grandkids and all that.
To actually make that happen, you’re forced to lie. It’s honestly ridiculous.

And even if you play along and claim you're heading out for agricultural work to get a permit—say, two permits for a married couple—what about the kids? Are they just stuck here?
It’s an absolute joke.

Kids don't need their own pass if they're traveling with parents who already have them.

You can’t go visit them if they’re in a different state, yet you have full access if they’re right here in your own. It’s as if the weight of the decision doesn't actually rest on your shoulders. Like you're somehow expected—or even permitted—to only make choices within the boundaries of a single state.