Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

Adam Collins4 said:I honestly find myself wondering why I constantly attract these mindless trolls who clearly struggle with basic reading comprehension... you want to argue, but you just don't have the mental capacity to back it up.

My wife is way too sharp for the kindergarten-level nonsense you're trying to pull here...

So, let's get back to it: provide me with one actual argument that proves living separately is somehow normal... when you find one, let me know.

Then we can move on to discussing your inability to actually read, and eventually, the part where you lie because you can't defend your own point.

P.S. If you want to show me what kind of "intellectual" you are, maybe stop dragging other people's families into this mess—especially since nobody is even bringing up yours... save that behavior for the people who failed to teach you manners.

Until then—give me an argument for when spouses living apart is actually acceptable...

I’m responding because you just keep pushing this nonsense.
I don't feel the need to prove who lives where, because that's beside the point.
The actual issue here is that there is simply no law or regulation preventing spouses from living at different addresses.
It’s just like how you aren't required to switch your bank card just because you moved houses—which was actually something you mentioned yourself.

Look at it this way:

James Phillips92 said:Why should spouses have to live at the same address? Is there some rule saying married couples aren't allowed to live apart?

Adam Collins4 said:Look, once you actually find me a realistic example—one that’s actually widespread, mind you—then we can have a real conversation about this...

Honestly, I have zero intention of getting into a wrestling match over something this trivial...

The reality is that most of these people were just too lazy to update their paperwork after getting married or moving house...

And yeah, technically, it is prohibited...😉

Some folks do it out of pure laziness, others because they're trying to cheat the system on travel reimbursements... and so on and so forth.

Go ahead and keep arguing with yourself; I know your style well enough, so fine... I'm done with this.👋

As for everyone else jumping in to feed off someone else's drama, fine, have at it—but don't be surprised when that same garbage comes back your way.

Anyone else out there living this exact same way—living outside of Washington, D.C., but working and basically doing life in the city? I’ve got my work pass to get in, but I don't have an active residency registration in D.C. right now. I used to have it for tax purposes, but that expired.

Right now I'm hanging out at my permanent residence, but there's a good chance I'll have to head into the office next week. Am I gonna run into trouble since I don't have an active D.C. address on file?

Jack Cook7 said:If you ask me, trying to untangle all this at once right now is just a recipe for disaster. There are way bigger fish to fry. We all know things are messy, but if we try to fix everything overnight, we’re just going to end up in total chaos.

In times like these, you gotta be pragmatic. You need to play the long game.

That decision to ban communication between administrative municipalities is easily the worst move yet. Current trends show people naturally move in "clusters," and honestly, that’s what our planning should be aiming for anyway.

Just look at the highway map in the Midwest. It’s flat, relatively recently settled (think Australia or the era of Maria Theresa), making it a textbook example.

Every major city is roughly 30 to 31 miles miles from the next, all linked by straight, efficient roads. Why is it like that? Well, because cities were designed as hubs for everything—Australia essentially laid them out that way alongside the main routes and forts. Back then, if you were in the most remote village, it would take about 15 to 16 miles minutes on foot or by wagon—roughly 3 hours one way—which was the standard time to hit the market once a week and handle your monthly paperwork. There is an inherent logic to this network of roads and distances; it wasn't built by accident. In a military crisis, a cavalry unit (maybe 100 to 200 riders) could reach you for backup within an hour, artillery support and infantry within 5-6 hours, and a massive main force could arrive within a week.

Andrija Štampar basically took that military-style organization and applied it to healthcare, turning it into a global gold standard. That’s why we still see such solid results today, even though our healthcare system is generally a complete mess.

And now, we have these local small-timers destroying something that took at least 300 years to build, all just to secure jobs for some cousins, "golden boys," or their own kids? They’re spinning up 440 municipalities and 130 cities? It’s absolute nonsense; there's no way it can actually work.

Works for me, though. Let the people who have made all the money over the last 30 years worry about the tens or hundreds of thousands of sick and elderly citizens. Oh wait, they won't. Instead, they’re busy building bunkers right in the middle of downtown on Preradovićevoj (because they don't want to mingle with the common folk—they think they're above it), while the urban planners just sit there and applaud. Then, when real trouble starts, they’ll just pack up and leave, taking all that money they've been stripping from our property over the years.

You really think they wouldn't?

I won't say anything new; I'll just offer one more example—the Brtonigla Municipality.

Brtonigla is about 5 kilometers from Buje. It sits right between Buje and Novigrad, which is roughly 6.2 miles away.

The municipality consists of five settlements: Brtonigla – Verteneglio, Fiorini – Fiorini, Karigador – Carigador, Nova Vas – Villanova, and Radini – Radini.

According to the last census back in 2011, the Brtonigla Municipality had 1,626 residents spread across those five areas:

Brtonigla - 805
Fiorini - 165
Karigador - 189
Nova Vas - 359
Radini - 108

The total area is 33 km2.

For heaven's sake. People are mixing things up—that was an agricultural industrial complex, not a municipality.

The initiative from the regional headquarters to allow free movement across several local administrative units is, unfortunately, logical. What’s even more tragic is that once this whole coronavirus situation blows over, the locals won't give an inch regarding their "municipalities" and "cities." This cronyism mentality is a cancer on society—and a cancer doesn't care about the means it uses to spread.

Elizabeth Barrett6 said:Anyone else out there living this exact same way—living outside of Washington, D.C., but working and basically doing life in the city? I’ve got my work pass to get in, but I don't have an active residency registration in D.C. right now. I used to have it for tax purposes, but that expired.

Right now I'm hanging out at my permanent residence, but there's a good chance I'll have to head into the office next week. Am I gonna run into trouble since I don't have an active D.C. address on file?

I haven't tested that myself, but I'm in a similar boat (not in D.C., though—permanent residence in one spot, work and housing in another). Both branches of the National Headquarters have assured me that as long as you carry your permit (which, in this case, is for work), you won't face any issues.

Elizabeth Barrett6 said:Anyone else out there living this exact same way—living outside of Washington, D.C., but working and basically doing life in the city? I’ve got my work pass to get in, but I don't have an active residency registration in D.C. right now. I used to have it for tax purposes, but that expired.

Right now I'm hanging out at my permanent residence, but there's a good chance I'll have to head into the office next week. Am I gonna run into trouble since I don't have an active D.C. address on file?

Well, you have your work pass, which should be enough to get you into Washington, D.C.

Adam Collins4 said:Look, once you actually find me a realistic example—one that’s actually widespread, mind you—then we can have a real conversation about this...

Honestly, I have zero intention of getting into a wrestling match over something this trivial...

The reality is that most of these people were just too lazy to update their paperwork after getting married or moving house...

And yeah, technically, it is prohibited...😉

Some folks do it out of pure laziness, others because they're trying to cheat the system on travel reimbursements... and so on and so forth.

Edward Fisher86 said:I’m responding because you just keep pushing this nonsense.
I don't feel the need to prove who lives where, because that's beside the point.
The actual issue here is that there is simply no law or regulation preventing spouses from living at different addresses.
It’s just like how you aren't required to switch your bank card just because you moved houses—which was actually something you mentioned yourself.

Look at it this way:

Go ahead and keep arguing with yourself; I know your style well enough, so fine... I'm done with this.👋

As for everyone else jumping in to feed off someone else's drama, fine, have at it—but don't be surprised when that same garbage comes back your way.

Listen, troll, this just shows how far you're willing to go simply because you're incapable of making a real argument...

If you had mastered reading comprehension, you would have realized my sentence about the ban was referring to the previous sentence in my post...

Now I've bolded it for you, so maybe you can find someone else to explain context to you...

Until then—once you find an actual example, like those cases where people complain because some municipality or city is "between" them, let me know...

Wait, so now you're deciding what the topic is, just because you can't defend your own blunders?🤣

And what "garbage" are you talking about exactly?

Elizabeth Barrett6 said:Anyone else out there living this exact same way—living outside of Washington, D.C., but working and basically doing life in the city? I’ve got my work pass to get in, but I don't have an active residency registration in D.C. right now. I used to have it for tax purposes, but that expired.

Right now I'm hanging out at my permanent residence, but there's a good chance I'll have to head into the office next week. Am I gonna run into trouble since I don't have an active D.C. address on file?

Adding to that. I'm currently at my registered address, and I managed to get a work pass tied to that location, but it's going to expire during this "quarantine." Does that 3-month grace period still apply (if I read that correctly—feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) before you actually have to report to the police?

Thanks for the help

Nicholas King said:I have no idea what it even means to be unstable "by default," but this theory that only those who were already completely broken decide to end it themselves is—well, it's total bullshit.

Ultimately, what is the actual difference between your attitude of "let them die, they're screwed anyway" and Pernarov's stance of "let them die from the coronavirus, they're old anyway"?

Your current perspective is like that old joke: "When Joe suffers, everyone suffers; when Joe drinks, everyone drinks; when Joe pays, everyone pays." At the very core of your vision lies fear. A frightened person loses all sense of objectivity.

Nah, it’s not really about fear. I wouldn't call myself a fearful person by nature—though, obviously, I’m definitely not indifferent to what's going on.
It all comes down to how much harder everything has become lately. Honestly, just trying to live and work under these conditions is exhausting. I find myself constantly wishing this whole thing would just wrap up already. Your entire existence starts feeling like a repetitive cycle of washing and disinfecting yourself and everything you touch, which is just draining when you're actually trying to get things done. You end up spending half your energy just managing that, or just standing around outside the store waiting for a break, or trying to make sense of your day off. It’s a lot.
If we actually want this whole thing to wrap up sooner, there's one simple thing a certain number of people could do: just stay home. That’s it. No need to head out to the front lines, no need to pick up a rifle, and definitely no need to go out there risking your neck. Honestly, nothing dramatic is required—just staying put at home would make all the difference.
Look, I get it. In actual war zones, when things are falling apart and people are under fire, split-second decisions happen—people shoot because they have to survive. But if someone starts opening fire just because they want to go for a stroll, hang out with their buddies at a pub, or grab some food? Honestly, that’s a different story. As far as I'm concerned, you're either completely mentally unstable or just a spoiled brat.
I really need to be home right now... honestly, life just keeps throwing these little dramas my way.

Chris Kim13 said:Around here, we just call it "making it work."

That’s pretty much how it goes. Everyone who managed to "scrape by" or pull some fast one just points the finger at someone else when things inevitably blow up in their faces. It’s the same old story. It reminds me of that department head back in the day—she was constantly cutting corners with housing paperwork and address filings, playing fast and loose with the rules, but the second she got caught in the mess, she acted like it was everyone else's fault but hers. People just love to dodge accountability.
That's just the mindset for you.

Edward Fisher86 said:No. Give me the link regarding the ban on spouses maintaining separate residences.

What kind of bank cards would you actually need to change just because you moved addresses?

Look, there isn’t an actual ban on anything here, but there is a legal definition for what constitutes a marriage. Under the law, marriage is— community.
Strictly speaking, if you have two people living at two different addresses, they aren't considered a household or a single unit.
Actually, if you look at how most people see it, once partners stop living under the same roof for more than a year, that’s usually the line where the relationship is considered over. It's like the community itself has effectively dissolved at that point.

Elizabeth Barrett6 said:Anyone else out there living this exact same way—living outside of Washington, D.C., but working and basically doing life in the city? I’ve got my work pass to get in, but I don't have an active residency registration in D.C. right now. I used to have it for tax purposes, but that expired.

Right now I'm hanging out at my permanent residence, but there's a good chance I'll have to head into the office next week. Am I gonna run into trouble since I don't have an active D.C. address on file?

Honestly, my favorite type of people are the ones who try to dodge that 18% withholding tax—believe me, I’d love to skip it too, but duty calls—and then they just stay registered somewhere else entirely and wonder, "Wait, is this going to be an issue?"
I mean, what on earth possessed you to move your registration out of Washington, D.C. if you actually live and work right here?

hollowmason64 said:Seriously, stop giving me this drama about mental health just because people have to stay home for a couple of weeks. It’s not like they can’t go to the grocery store, the pharmacy, or wherever else they need to go—they just shouldn't be out wandering around unnecessarily.
Honestly, some people are just too sensitive.
Look, if we follow that logic—if it’s okay for people to lose it and ignore the rules because their "mental pressure is too high"—then is it okay for me to snap because I have to work wrapped in PPE and disinfect myself constantly? Is it okay if I smack someone over the head if they walk up to me at my job?
I’m reaching my limit here, I really am. Or should I expect a cashier to tell me to get lost whenever I ask a question?
Because actions have consequences.
If you guys are struggling on the inside, it isn't any easier for us out here, and we might just "snap" too.

Chinese people welded shut apartment building doors in order to "maximally prevent infection." Are you actually supporting that?

If things in this country get to the point where people are literally dropping dead in the streets, and idiots are still wandering around ignoring the mandates, then yeah. Honestly, sometimes you have to protect the fools from themselves.

Say there are twenty new cases in a week. Then what? Do you allow movement and social contact again? Do you bring schools back online? Reopen the professional sports leagues?

No, you’d first lift these movement restrictions, and then we'll see... whatever happens in the following days.

What you're talking about regarding suicides—those involve people who are inherently mentally unstable, and those types of individuals should be under supervision regardless of whether it's due to the coronavirus or not.

If I recall correctly, an ID card showing your residence should be enough to prove where you belong.

Not necessarily. If you show up outside of your area without authorization and get caught, you can count on being ordered into self-isolation.

What do you mean "how can there be none"? This person is just trying to let you know you aren't alone in this. Take me, for example—I have a permit and I could easily go visit my family, whom I see every year for Easter, but it hasn't even crossed my mind. There are three elderly people and one younger person with a heart condition living there. It doesn't occur to me to risk putting them in danger just so I can visit. I wouldn't be able to show my face at the local bakery if I had to live with the fact that I might have accidentally brought an infection to them, God forbid.
I just don't think some people truly get it.
And it isn't the system's fault, nor is it yours or anyone else's for not updating addresses sooner—I suppose waiting until the last minute to handle paperwork is a job for fools.

On what grounds are we even debating this? Božinović himself explicitly stated that returning to your primary residence isn't up for debate and won't be subject to restrictions. The only real catch is if you happen to be stuck in an area currently under quarantine—which, at this moment, only applies to Murter and Betin. If you're there, you're effectively grounded. Other than that, returning home is permitted, except in the specific case of... Family reunions... man, where do you even begin with that? It’s one of those things people talk about like it’s this beautiful, Hallmark-movie moment of pure connection, but if you actually live it, it can be an absolute minefield of old grievances and awkward silences. You spend all this time thinking you’ve moved past the drama of your youth, only to find yourself sitting across a dinner table from an uncle who still treats you like you’re ten years old, or a cousin who hasn't stopped talking about their crypto portfolio since the Obama administration. It’s funny, really. We spend our whole lives trying to carve out our own identities, trying to distance ourselves from the chaos we grew up in, and then suddenly, some holiday or milestone rolls around and you’re right back in the thick of it. It’s like being pulled back into a gravity well you thought you’d escaped. I remember once, back when I was living in Chicago, my entire extended family decided to descend upon my tiny apartment for what was supposed to be a "simple" gathering. I had three different aunts trying to give me life advice I didn't ask for, while my brother was busy arguing with my father about politics—which, let's be honest, is a recipe for disaster in this country. There's a certain weight to it, isn't there? This obligation to bridge the gaps that time and distance have created. You want to connect, you truly do, but you also realize that some bridges were burned for a very good reason. It’s a delicate balancing act between honoring where you came from and protecting who you’ve become. Sometimes it works, and you feel that warmth, that genuine sense of belonging. Other times, you’re just counting the minutes until you can retreat to your own space and breathe again. It’s complicated, messy, and entirely human. So, look, here’s the deal regarding the current situation: if you happen to find yourself stuck outside the quarantine zone, even though your actual residence is inside that perimeter and your family is waiting for you back home, you actually have the legal right to return. It’s pretty straightforward when you break it down, really.

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hollowmason64 said:Seriously, stop giving me this drama about mental health just because people have to stay home for a couple of weeks. It’s not like they can’t go to the grocery store, the pharmacy, or wherever else they need to go—they just shouldn't be out wandering around unnecessarily.
Honestly, some people are just too sensitive.
Look, if we follow that logic—if it’s okay for people to lose it and ignore the rules because their "mental pressure is too high"—then is it okay for me to snap because I have to work wrapped in PPE and disinfect myself constantly? Is it okay if I smack someone over the head if they walk up to me at my job?
I’m reaching my limit here, I really am. Or should I expect a cashier to tell me to get lost whenever I ask a question?
Because actions have consequences.
If you guys are struggling on the inside, it isn't any easier for us out here, and we might just "snap" too.

Chinese people welded shut apartment building doors in order to "maximally prevent infection." Are you actually supporting that?

If things in this country get to the point where people are literally dropping dead in the streets, and idiots are still wandering around ignoring the mandates, then yeah. Honestly, sometimes you have to protect the fools from themselves.

Say there are twenty new cases in a week. Then what? Do you allow movement and social contact again? Do you bring schools back online? Reopen the professional sports leagues?

No, you’d first lift these movement restrictions, and then we'll see... whatever happens in the following days.

What you're talking about regarding suicides—those involve people who are inherently mentally unstable, and those types of individuals should be under supervision regardless of whether it's due to the coronavirus or not.

If I recall correctly, an ID card showing your residence should be enough to prove where you belong.

Not necessarily. If you show up outside of your area without authorization and get caught, you can count on being ordered into self-isolation.

What do you mean "how can there be none"? This person is just trying to let you know you aren't alone in this. Take me, for example—I have a permit and I could easily go visit my family, whom I see every year for Easter, but it hasn't even crossed my mind. There are three elderly people and one younger person with a heart condition living there. It doesn't occur to me to risk putting them in danger just so I can visit. I wouldn't be able to show my face at the local bakery if I had to live with the fact that I might have accidentally brought an infection to them, God forbid.
I just don't think some people truly get it.
And it isn't the system's fault, nor is it yours or anyone else's for not updating addresses sooner—I suppose waiting until the last minute to handle paperwork is a job for fools.

It seems to me that a vast number of people possess an inherent predisposition toward either heightened or diminished mental health struggles. Under normal circumstances—without some sort of massive, external catastrophe forcing our hand—these tendencies would likely remain entirely undetected; there simply wouldn't be any real opportunity or necessity for such predispositions to ever be clinically diagnosed.

When you implement these kinds of restrictions—where basic human interaction is stripped down to almost nothing—you aren't just isolating people; you're essentially creating a perfect storm for mental health crises. It’s a vicious cycle. These measures act as a constant trigger for psychological distress, yet at the exact same moment, they make it nearly impossible to catch those issues before they spiral out of control. Because we've lost that regular, day-to-day contact with one another, those subtle, early warning signs that someone is struggling simply go unnoticed. We're losing the ability to perform timely diagnoses because the very social fabric needed to spot the symptoms has been torn apart by the isolation itself.

Of course, we aren't just talking about depression or the risk of suicide here. That’s only one part of the equation. There are so many other issues surfacing that are becoming increasingly frequent. You really only have to take a quick look at the comment sections on Facebook or dive into some of the online forums to see the sheer amount of hysteria and those various symptoms of psychological instability popping up everywhere. It’s constant. Honestly, the only real distinction is that people dealing with these other types of disorders aren't necessarily facing an immediate threat to their lives, unlike the more acute cases.

Nicholas King said:I have no idea what it even means to be unstable "by default," but this theory that only those who were already completely broken decide to end it themselves is—well, it's total bullshit.

Ultimately, what is the actual difference between your attitude of "let them die, they're screwed anyway" and Pernarov's stance of "let them die from the coronavirus, they're old anyway"?

Your current perspective is like that old joke: "When Joe suffers, everyone suffers; when Joe drinks, everyone drinks; when Joe pays, everyone pays." At the very core of your vision lies fear. A frightened person loses all sense of objectivity.

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The whole definition of marriage or domestic partnership doesn't even matter here... because we’ve already seen people on this forum admit they haven't bothered changing their address just because it suits them better...

Then you have those folks claiming they can't see each other because they live a few miles apart in different municipalities—kind of like that lady mentioned above whose husband lives on the coast while she stays inland... those people have basically learned to live separate lives out of necessity—and in most cases, they actually have everything legally squared away...

The real headache comes from the ones who actually moved in together, are living under one roof, but haven't updated their address... and now they're the ones running into trouble...

Man, I remember reading this article ages ago, something like, "Who even is considered normal?"

The whole point was trying to figure out how you actually define "normal." And honestly, that was all back before the war started.

hollowmason64 said:Nah, it’s not really about fear. I wouldn't call myself a fearful person by nature—though, obviously, I’m definitely not indifferent to what's going on.
It all comes down to how much harder everything has become lately. Honestly, just trying to live and work under these conditions is exhausting. I find myself constantly wishing this whole thing would just wrap up already. Your entire existence starts feeling like a repetitive cycle of washing and disinfecting yourself and everything you touch, which is just draining when you're actually trying to get things done. You end up spending half your energy just managing that, or just standing around outside the store waiting for a break, or trying to make sense of your day off. It’s a lot.
If we actually want this whole thing to wrap up sooner, there's one simple thing a certain number of people could do: just stay home. That’s it. No need to head out to the front lines, no need to pick up a rifle, and definitely no need to go out there risking your neck. Honestly, nothing dramatic is required—just staying put at home would make all the difference.
Look, I get it. In actual war zones, when things are falling apart and people are under fire, split-second decisions happen—people shoot because they have to survive. But if someone starts opening fire just because they want to go for a stroll, hang out with their buddies at a pub, or grab some food? Honestly, that’s a different story. As far as I'm concerned, you're either completely mentally unstable or just a spoiled brat.
I really need to be home right now... honestly, life just keeps throwing these little dramas my way.

That’s pretty much how it goes. Everyone who managed to "scrape by" or pull some fast one just points the finger at someone else when things inevitably blow up in their faces. It’s the same old story. It reminds me of that department head back in the day—she was constantly cutting corners with housing paperwork and address filings, playing fast and loose with the rules, but the second she got caught in the mess, she acted like it was everyone else's fault but hers. People just love to dodge accountability.
That's just the mindset for you.

Look, there isn’t an actual ban on anything here, but there is a legal definition for what constitutes a marriage. Under the law, marriage is— community.
Strictly speaking, if you have two people living at two different addresses, they aren't considered a household or a single unit.
Actually, if you look at how most people see it, once partners stop living under the same roof for more than a year, that’s usually the line where the relationship is considered over. It's like the community itself has effectively dissolved at that point.

Honestly, my favorite type of people are the ones who try to dodge that 18% withholding tax—believe me, I’d love to skip it too, but duty calls—and then they just stay registered somewhere else entirely and wonder, "Wait, is this going to be an issue?"
I mean, what on earth possessed you to move your registration out of Washington, D.C. if you actually live and work right here?

Could you please cite the specific regulation stating that a community ceases to exist after a year of separation?

Adam Collins4 said:The whole definition of marriage or domestic partnership doesn't even matter here... because we’ve already seen people on this forum admit they haven't bothered changing their address just because it suits them better...

Then you have those folks claiming they can't see each other because they live a few miles apart in different municipalities—kind of like that lady mentioned above whose husband lives on the coast while she stays inland... those people have basically learned to live separate lives out of necessity—and in most cases, they actually have everything legally squared away...

The real headache comes from the ones who actually moved in together, are living under one roof, but haven't updated their address... and now they're the ones running into trouble...

So what's even the big deal?

hollowmason64 said:Nah, it’s not really about fear. I wouldn't call myself a fearful person by nature—though, obviously, I’m definitely not indifferent to what's going on.
It all comes down to how much harder everything has become lately. Honestly, just trying to live and work under these conditions is exhausting. I find myself constantly wishing this whole thing would just wrap up already. Your entire existence starts feeling like a repetitive cycle of washing and disinfecting yourself and everything you touch, which is just draining when you're actually trying to get things done. You end up spending half your energy just managing that, or just standing around outside the store waiting for a break, or trying to make sense of your day off. It’s a lot.
If we actually want this whole thing to wrap up sooner, there's one simple thing a certain number of people could do: just stay home. That’s it. No need to head out to the front lines, no need to pick up a rifle, and definitely no need to go out there risking your neck. Honestly, nothing dramatic is required—just staying put at home would make all the difference.
Look, I get it. In actual war zones, when things are falling apart and people are under fire, split-second decisions happen—people shoot because they have to survive. But if someone starts opening fire just because they want to go for a stroll, hang out with their buddies at a pub, or grab some food? Honestly, that’s a different story. As far as I'm concerned, you're either completely mentally unstable or just a spoiled brat.
I really need to be home right now... honestly, life just keeps throwing these little dramas my way.

That’s pretty much how it goes. Everyone who managed to "scrape by" or pull some fast one just points the finger at someone else when things inevitably blow up in their faces. It’s the same old story. It reminds me of that department head back in the day—she was constantly cutting corners with housing paperwork and address filings, playing fast and loose with the rules, but the second she got caught in the mess, she acted like it was everyone else's fault but hers. People just love to dodge accountability.
That's just the mindset for you.

Look, there isn’t an actual ban on anything here, but there is a legal definition for what constitutes a marriage. Under the law, marriage is— community.
Strictly speaking, if you have two people living at two different addresses, they aren't considered a household or a single unit.
Actually, if you look at how most people see it, once partners stop living under the same roof for more than a year, that’s usually the line where the relationship is considered over. It's like the community itself has effectively dissolved at that point.

Honestly, my favorite type of people are the ones who try to dodge that 18% withholding tax—believe me, I’d love to skip it too, but duty calls—and then they just stay registered somewhere else entirely and wonder, "Wait, is this going to be an issue?"
I mean, what on earth possessed you to move your registration out of Washington, D.C. if you actually live and work right here?

hollowmason64, what exactly are you talking about here, the definition of marriage?

Are you suggesting the government should be auditing residency applications just to annul marriages😁?

There is absolutely no prohibition on people in that sense, and you can't drag this out like some endless debate; the state can't just file a request to terminate a marriage, so writing what you're writing is completely pointless.

Just cool off and stop seeing enemies of the state lurking around every corner. Honestly... it is completely beneath my dignity to sit here and explain why I am in my current situation when idiots clearly can't grasp very simple rules in this context.
Go ahead and imagine how much I've clashed with the government; think whatever you want, because you aren't seeing any reason beyond tax hikes and other nonsense.

It’s great to see how much you all enjoy relishing in other people's problems while simultaneously not caring at all about, say, the neighbor next door who spends his days socializing with everyone under the sun; as long as you're busy worrying about who got hit by an unpaid tax bill, that's apparently your top priority.

hollowmason64 said:Nah, it’s not really about fear. I wouldn't call myself a fearful person by nature—though, obviously, I’m definitely not indifferent to what's going on.
It all comes down to how much harder everything has become lately. Honestly, just trying to live and work under these conditions is exhausting. I find myself constantly wishing this whole thing would just wrap up already. Your entire existence starts feeling like a repetitive cycle of washing and disinfecting yourself and everything you touch, which is just draining when you're actually trying to get things done. You end up spending half your energy just managing that, or just standing around outside the store waiting for a break, or trying to make sense of your day off. It’s a lot.
If we actually want this whole thing to wrap up sooner, there's one simple thing a certain number of people could do: just stay home. That’s it. No need to head out to the front lines, no need to pick up a rifle, and definitely no need to go out there risking your neck. Honestly, nothing dramatic is required—just staying put at home would make all the difference.
Look, I get it. In actual war zones, when things are falling apart and people are under fire, split-second decisions happen—people shoot because they have to survive. But if someone starts opening fire just because they want to go for a stroll, hang out with their buddies at a pub, or grab some food? Honestly, that’s a different story. As far as I'm concerned, you're either completely mentally unstable or just a spoiled brat.
I really need to be home right now... honestly, life just keeps throwing these little dramas my way.

That’s pretty much how it goes. Everyone who managed to "scrape by" or pull some fast one just points the finger at someone else when things inevitably blow up in their faces. It’s the same old story. It reminds me of that department head back in the day—she was constantly cutting corners with housing paperwork and address filings, playing fast and loose with the rules, but the second she got caught in the mess, she acted like it was everyone else's fault but hers. People just love to dodge accountability.
That's just the mindset for you.

Look, there isn’t an actual ban on anything here, but there is a legal definition for what constitutes a marriage. Under the law, marriage is— community.
Strictly speaking, if you have two people living at two different addresses, they aren't considered a household or a single unit.
Actually, if you look at how most people see it, once partners stop living under the same roof for more than a year, that’s usually the line where the relationship is considered over. It's like the community itself has effectively dissolved at that point.

Honestly, my favorite type of people are the ones who try to dodge that 18% withholding tax—believe me, I’d love to skip it too, but duty calls—and then they just stay registered somewhere else entirely and wonder, "Wait, is this going to be an issue?"
I mean, what on earth possessed you to move your registration out of Washington, D.C. if you actually live and work right here?

Whoa, slow down there with the judgment! You clearly didn't read what I wrote or you totally missed the point.

Look, I pay the local tax too because when I first started working, I set my residency in Washington, D.C., and that's where the IRS has me listed. My official residency permit only lasts a year and mine actually expired. But honestly, the IRS hasn't given me any grief about it; I've been paying my D.C. taxes like clockwork this whole time.

Thanks to everyone else for the actual helpful feedback.

hollowmason64 said:Nah, it’s not really about fear. I wouldn't call myself a fearful person by nature—though, obviously, I’m definitely not indifferent to what's going on.
It all comes down to how much harder everything has become lately. Honestly, just trying to live and work under these conditions is exhausting. I find myself constantly wishing this whole thing would just wrap up already. Your entire existence starts feeling like a repetitive cycle of washing and disinfecting yourself and everything you touch, which is just draining when you're actually trying to get things done. You end up spending half your energy just managing that, or just standing around outside the store waiting for a break, or trying to make sense of your day off. It’s a lot.
If we actually want this whole thing to wrap up sooner, there's one simple thing a certain number of people could do: just stay home. That’s it. No need to head out to the front lines, no need to pick up a rifle, and definitely no need to go out there risking your neck. Honestly, nothing dramatic is required—just staying put at home would make all the difference.
Look, I get it. In actual war zones, when things are falling apart and people are under fire, split-second decisions happen—people shoot because they have to survive. But if someone starts opening fire just because they want to go for a stroll, hang out with their buddies at a pub, or grab some food? Honestly, that’s a different story. As far as I'm concerned, you're either completely mentally unstable or just a spoiled brat.
I really need to be home right now... honestly, life just keeps throwing these little dramas my way.

That’s pretty much how it goes. Everyone who managed to "scrape by" or pull some fast one just points the finger at someone else when things inevitably blow up in their faces. It’s the same old story. It reminds me of that department head back in the day—she was constantly cutting corners with housing paperwork and address filings, playing fast and loose with the rules, but the second she got caught in the mess, she acted like it was everyone else's fault but hers. People just love to dodge accountability.
That's just the mindset for you.

Look, there isn’t an actual ban on anything here, but there is a legal definition for what constitutes a marriage. Under the law, marriage is— community.
Strictly speaking, if you have two people living at two different addresses, they aren't considered a household or a single unit.
Actually, if you look at how most people see it, once partners stop living under the same roof for more than a year, that’s usually the line where the relationship is considered over. It's like the community itself has effectively dissolved at that point.

Honestly, my favorite type of people are the ones who try to dodge that 18% withholding tax—believe me, I’d love to skip it too, but duty calls—and then they just stay registered somewhere else entirely and wonder, "Wait, is this going to be an issue?"
I mean, what on earth possessed you to move your registration out of Washington, D.C. if you actually live and work right here?

And I assume you have all the evidence to back up such a brave statement.

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If we want this whole mess to wrap up ASAP, a certain group of people seriously just needs to stay home. That’s it. Nothing else.

Anthony Jackson2 said:And I assume you have all the evidence to back up such a brave statement.

There’s this old story, I read it ages ago, about "good children."

It goes like this:

"Good children sit in an empty room without windows, on a wooden chair in the middle of the room, with their hands folded neatly in their laps."

Well, there you go—that's your definition of perfect little kids.

But wait a second... what kind of adults are those "perfect" kids actually going to grow up to be in 30 years?

People are finally starting to realize how much of a knee-jerk reaction this whole measure was—it just feels totally thoughtless, doesn't it?
It actually makes me pretty happy to see that the head of our local FEMA office in the Pula region is saying basically the exact same thing I was saying when they first rolled this out.
"Dina Kozlevac, the lead official for the local Civil Protection Headquarters, is making his stance clear. According to him, those permits should really apply across seven different areas—including the Pula region, Rovinj region, Poreč region, Buj region, Pazin region, Buje region, and the Labin region—since all those spots are so closely linked together.".

Rijeka actually requested to consolidate the old regional ring, but they shut that down. Same thing happened with Maui—they wanted the whole island included, but that was rejected too.

Well, Opara suggested looking into the ST area since we've only got 10 days left, but honestly, there's no point in even voting on it anymore...