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crimsonranger3 crimsonranger3 Member
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#241 ·
Chris Kim13 said:It seems like they aren't calling everyone out lately because there are just way too many cases.

The only way anyone knows is if your primary care physician notes "quarantine" right next to your name in the medical records, so it pops up whenever someone pulls up your file in the system.

As for who actually hands over those lists to the police—whether it's the local clinic or public health officials—honestly, I have no clue.

And who handles the removal?
In other words, do I need to contact someone once the 14-day period expires?
Chris Kim13 Chris Kim13 Member
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#242 ·
No, look, the letter from the CDC clearly states the specific start and end dates.
crimsonranger3 crimsonranger3 Member
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#243 ·
Thanks, much appreciated!
mellownomad7 mellownomad7 Active Member
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#244 ·
NEW UPDATES
The self-isolation registry is basically broken: Now, sick people will be responsible for reporting their own contacts for quarantine.

If this actually goes live, I have zero clue how they expect it to work. 🤔

Later
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#245 ·
mellownomad7 said:NEW UPDATES
The self-isolation registry is basically broken: Now, sick people will be responsible for reporting their own contacts for quarantine.

If this actually goes live, I have zero clue how they expect it to work. 🤔

Later

Not at all. It’s pretty obvious that contact tracing is becoming a thing of the past—which, frankly, feels like just another step toward exponential growth. We might get another month or two of breathing room, but then we'll likely face the Italian scenario: a massive spike followed by a total national lockdown, forcing us to start the whole process over from scratch...
silverstag24 silverstag24 Member
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#246 ·
Honestly, who cares? We aren't talking about some plague here; it’s more like a nasty bout of the flu. If we can handle the seasonal flu without losing our minds, we can definitely manage this. Everything else is just pure, unadulterated bullshit.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#247 ·
And once again, we aren't talking about some seasonal flu strain here. We are dealing with an entirely new disease—one where we currently lack both vaccines and effective treatments—that continues to spread despite the very measures that have practically wiped out the flu across the Southern Hemisphere. So far, the toll has been devastating, resulting in over a million deaths...
silverstag24 silverstag24 Member
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#248 ·
Nicole James said:And once again, we aren't talking about some seasonal flu strain here. We are dealing with an entirely new disease—one where we currently lack both vaccines and effective treatments—that continues to spread despite the very measures that have practically wiped out the flu across the Southern Hemisphere. So far, the toll has been devastating, resulting in over a million deaths...

The mortality rate is right in line with the flu. And keep in mind, that's without any vaccines or meds available. Honestly, that’s really the only thing that matters.
Ronald Chavez2 Ronald Chavez2 Active Member
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#249 ·
Nicole James said:Not at all. It’s pretty obvious that contact tracing is becoming a thing of the past—which, frankly, feels like just another step toward exponential growth. We might get another month or two of breathing room, but then we'll likely face the Italian scenario: a massive spike followed by a total national lockdown, forcing us to start the whole process over from scratch...

That seems far too optimistic; we could be looking at 500,000 deaths before Easter🤣
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
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#250 ·
I don’t get how they can’t find any support staff when there are so many people sitting around at the unemployment office. You can't expect me to track down every single contact of an infected person, draft all the paperwork, and manually log everything into the system.
If they keep going this way, we're looking at a total meltdown.

Haha...as if I’m actually going to sit there listing contacts and notifying them. Not a chance.
It's absolute insanity...
What’s even the point of testing if nobody is tracking the contacts?
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#251 ·
silverstag24 said:The mortality rate is right in line with the flu. And keep in mind, that's without any vaccines or meds available. Honestly, that’s really the only thing that matters.

No, that isn't the only thing that matters. We also have to consider the long-term consequences for those who actually survive the infection—the "long haul" issues. It's equally important to look at how infectious people can be and what kind of lasting immunity develops within the population over time...
silverstag24 silverstag24 Member
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#252 ·
Nicole James said:No, that isn't the only thing that matters. We also have to consider the long-term consequences for those who actually survive the infection—the "long haul" issues. It's equally important to look at how infectious people can be and what kind of lasting immunity develops within the population over time...

Look, I get it, all those points are valid. But they don't exactly serve as a hall pass for the authoritarian overreach and the total economic meltdown the world is wading through right now. If you want to justify those kinds of atrocities, you’d need a mortality rate that's just way higher than what we're dealing with. It's just not high enough to excuse that kind of madness.
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#253 ·
silverstag24 said:Look, I get it, all those points are valid. But they don't exactly serve as a hall pass for the authoritarian overreach and the total economic meltdown the world is wading through right now. If you want to justify those kinds of atrocities, you’d need a mortality rate that's just way higher than what we're dealing with. It's just not high enough to excuse that kind of madness.

How many deaths does it actually take to justify measures like that? Using the population of a place like Denver as a benchmark, for instance?
George Long6 George Long6 Member
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#254 ·
silverstag24 said:Honestly, who cares? We aren't talking about some plague here; it’s more like a nasty bout of the flu. If we can handle the seasonal flu without losing our minds, we can definitely manage this. Everything else is just pure, unadulterated bullshit.

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Exactly. But trying to explain that to some people is a lost cause.
We should just tell everyone—IF YOU'RE TERRIFIED OF THIS VIRUS, JUST STAY HOME, and everyone else can go back to business as usual while wearing masks.
People clearly don't realize that this whole situation is going to absolutely wreck us—some will lose everything financially, others will struggle mentally... if this madness keeps up.
Just look back at Mad Cow disease, bird flu, swine flu... and what actually happened?
Nothing.
crimsonranger3 crimsonranger3 Member
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#255 ·
I’m the guy who was talking trash about quarantine, yet here I am, having already cleared the virus thanks to my antibodies.
How did I pull it off? One day I hit a 99.5°F fever (and yeah, my eye muscles were absolutely killing me for four days straight), but my "treatment plan" consisted of a 1,000-yard swim and a 4-mile run. Why didn't I rest? Because I genuinely thought it was just a draft from an open window the day before.

The point is, it isn't the apocalypse we're being told it is. If I even bring up the concept of natural selection, half the internet starts losing their minds...

The best part? I’m still testing negative, yet I'm still stuck in isolation.🤣
At this rate, the quarantine is going to do more damage to me than the actual virus ever could.

Honestly, I can't find a word as accurate as "stupid" to describe this situation.🤣

EDIT: Does this linked news article mean I'm effectively out of isolation now?😁 😁
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#256 ·
crimsonranger3 said:I’m the guy who was talking trash about quarantine, yet here I am, having already cleared the virus thanks to my antibodies.
How did I pull it off? One day I hit a 99.5°F fever (and yeah, my eye muscles were absolutely killing me for four days straight), but my "treatment plan" consisted of a 1,000-yard swim and a 4-mile run. Why didn't I rest? Because I genuinely thought it was just a draft from an open window the day before.

The point is, it isn't the apocalypse we're being told it is. If I even bring up the concept of natural selection, half the internet starts losing their minds...

The best part? I’m still testing negative, yet I'm still stuck in isolation.🤣
At this rate, the quarantine is going to do more damage to me than the actual virus ever could.

Honestly, I can't find a word as accurate as "stupid" to describe this situation.🤣

EDIT: Does this linked news article mean I'm effectively out of isolation now?😁 😁

Good for you if you managed to breeze through it with such mild symptoms. Just keep in mind that there are perfectly healthy, young people out there ending up in the hospital with permanent lung scarring.
Matthew Jackson2 Matthew Jackson2 Active Member
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#257 ·
Nicole James said:How many deaths does it actually take to justify measures like that? Using the population of a place like Denver as a benchmark, for instance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

What kind of ratio between the people stuck on the tracks where the switch is set versus those on the alternate track would actually grant you the authority to flip that lever? If you sit there and do absolutely nothing, more people perish, yet if you pull that switch, you have directly assumed responsibility for the lives lost on that second track. Now, nobody is questioning your right to sacrifice your own life to save someone else—that’s noble enough—but the idea that you have the inherent right to sacrifice *others* is a much more questionable proposition altogether.

We see a modern iteration of this dilemma surfacing with the rise of autonomous vehicles—does a self-driving car have the right to endanger its own passengers to save a pedestrian? And does that right hold steady if the pedestrian is actually the one at fault for the situation? Or what if the pedestrian is being saved from an accident caused by some other vehicle entirely?

Today, we see this exact scenario mirrored in public policy and government mandates. We are all going to feel the fallout of these decisions, and for some, these measures will lead to death or devastating consequences. It brings us back to the core question: do we truly have the right to pull that lever?

It is a profoundly difficult moral quandary, and honestly, there isn't a simple answer to be found. However, one thing remains crystal clear: if there is any possible way to find solutions that don't involve putting others in harm's way, then making that our absolute priority should be non-negotiable.
Paul White9 Paul White9 Active Member
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#258 ·
You made a fair point there. But look, if we're looking at a mortality rate of around 0.1-0.2%—which is what we actually know now, unlike back during those first three months when everyone was just panicking and flying blind—then we’re essentially just dealing with another virus that doesn't carry a massive death toll. If this thing had a 30-50% fatality rate for everyone who caught it, you wouldn't need all these government mandates, COVID enforcement officers, public pleas, "educational" campaigns, or any of that other nonsense.

Basically, it's just like flu season every year. We tell the elderly and the immunocompromised to stay safe and be careful, while the rest of us just go about our business and get on with life.
Paul White9 Paul White9 Active Member
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#259 ·
Nicole James said:Good for you if you managed to breeze through it with such mild symptoms. Just keep in mind that there are perfectly healthy, young people out there ending up in the hospital with permanent lung scarring.

Exactly. Some young people end up on oxygen from a standard flu, and some even die. Most don't. Just like with COVID, most people are fine.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
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#260 ·
Paul White9 said:You made a fair point there. But look, if we're looking at a mortality rate of around 0.1-0.2%—which is what we actually know now, unlike back during those first three months when everyone was just panicking and flying blind—then we’re essentially just dealing with another virus that doesn't carry a massive death toll. If this thing had a 30-50% fatality rate for everyone who caught it, you wouldn't need all these government mandates, COVID enforcement officers, public pleas, "educational" campaigns, or any of that other nonsense.

Basically, it's just like flu season every year. We tell the elderly and the immunocompromised to stay safe and be careful, while the rest of us just go about our business and get on with life.

Mortality isn't the only issue here. From what I can see, even the more severe complications (which have been showing up in younger people too) aren't exactly harmless.

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