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Alexander Bishop2 Alexander Bishop2 Newcomer
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#401 ·
melloworca6 said:That’s not even true. I’ve been asking around because this is a massive issue for me if I end up stuck in quarantine. You can leave your pet with a sitter (or pay for a kennel), or someone else can come walk them while you stay inside. You aren't supposed to go out yourself.

I don't see how I'm endangering anyone by putting on gloves and a mask and just walking the dog alone without talking to a soul. Especially since where I live, we can easily keep our distance from everyone else.

😢 Since this sounds like pure paranoia to me, where exactly did you get that information?
jer na CDC website visitors. The regulations say it’s allowed, and even someone from the command center confirmed it during a press briefing—if I recall correctly, they've actually addressed this exact question several times over the last few months.
Drew Gonzalez75 Drew Gonzalez75 Active Member
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#402 ·
Alexander Bishop2 said:😢 Since this sounds like pure paranoia to me, where exactly did you get that information?
jer na CDC website visitors. The regulations say it’s allowed, and even someone from the command center confirmed it during a press briefing—if I recall correctly, they've actually addressed this exact question several times over the last few months.

I mean, what would stop a parent from taking a young child for a walk outside?☕
Angela Chavez11 Angela Chavez11 Member
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#403 ·

Drew Gonzalez75 said:I mean, what would stop a parent from taking a young child for a walk outside?☕

Exactly. It should definitely be allowed, provided you aren't coming into close contact with other people...

Disclaimer: Personally, I think self-isolation is a totally unnecessary concept given the current situation...
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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joined May 2010
#404 ·
Alexander Bishop2 said:😢 Since this sounds like pure paranoia to me, where exactly did you get that information?
jer na CDC website visitors. The regulations say it’s allowed, and even someone from the command center confirmed it during a press briefing—if I recall correctly, they've actually addressed this exact question several times over the last few months.

I saw some responses on Facebook to emails people sent to various agencies asking for clarification—and honestly, what about those of us with dogs who absolutely have to take them out? Some people have even been fined for it, like these guys: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tel...ji/amp/?espv=1

If it comes down to it, I’m taking mine out. 🤷 I'm not keeping a dog trapped in an apartment for two weeks; they aren't going to just pee and poop inside, and certainly not in front of the building. I have no clue how much of a threat I become just by putting on a mask and gloves and heading out when there are hardly any people around. They're punishing people for nonsense when they aren't a danger at all (like the guy who went out to fertilize his field or the guy mowing his lawn), yet they make up excuses to justify things where they should actually be reacting.

Drew Gonzalez75 said:I mean, what would stop a parent from taking a young child for a walk outside?☕

If they aren't coming into contact with anyone or socializing with other people, I don't see the issue. 🤷
Nicholas Davis4 Nicholas Davis4 Active Member
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#405 ·
melloworca6 As specified by:
This really shouldn't be happening. I've been looking into this because being forced into quarantine would be a massive headache for me. You can always find someone to watch your dog, or even pay for a pet hotel, or have a friend come by for walks—but you won't be allowed to leave the house yourself.

I honestly can't imagine who I'd be inconveniencing by throwing on my mask and gloves to take the dog for a walk. Especially since, where I live, there's plenty of room to maintain a good distance from everyone else anyway.

mellowskipper Asks:
I suppose you can only walk a dog if you actually own one.

It simply means that those who own dogs hold a certain level of privilege over those without them.
Why should anyone care whether someone owns a dog or not?
Who’s going to take care of things when you're sidelined with the flu, a pulled muscle, or a nasty stomach bug, especially if you're out in the Pacific Northwest?
Some of you will have the chance to get out and enjoy a walk, while others simply won't be able to.
Since they don't have a dog.

Unfer.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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#406 ·
During those spring lockdowns, my dogs were absolutely dying to get out for walks.
Nicholas Davis4 Nicholas Davis4 Active Member
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#407 ·
Lawrence Reed3 said:I think it’s just because the people enforcing these rules made it up as they go along, even though the actual health experts don't seem to see any issue with folks getting some fresh air as long as they stay away from crowds. Like, I went out for a run at 7:00 this morning and there wasn't a soul in sight—you can easily keep a massive distance from anyone when the streets are empty!
Honestly, I doubt you'd actually get fined, because how is an officer supposed to prove you weren't home? They can't just hand out tickets for no reason.
But hey, at least while you're stuck in quarantine, you can still have people over to your place if nothing else.

I agree with the first point.

Do I think people would just go out to wander through an empty field by themselves?
I don't think so.
Just look at how busy pharmacies get during the spring rush.
That doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to walk, but they should definitely maintain social distance.

The term "quarantine" doesn't really imply socializing with others, especially when you're stuck in an apartment.

By the way, is there any data on what percentage of people ordered to isolate actually got sick, or how many housemates—if they aren't living alone—caught it from them?

In my case, we rearranged ourselves throughout the apartment; those with fevers stayed in two specific rooms, while the rest spread out elsewhere, just watching TV in separate spaces.

It’s funny how most people usually spend their time glued to the TV, flipping through hundreds of cable channels (even if they only watch four), or hunched over a computer or phone. Now, suddenly, it turns out 99% of the population are fitness enthusiasts and outdoor lovers who prefer fresh air to being indoors. Usually, they struggle to even walk to the corner store, and a stroll from a local park to a neighborhood landmark sounds like too much effort. In the summer, around 9 PM, you hardly see anyone out... let alone during other seasons. So where are all these walkers and athletes? It's not like everyone is hanging out at Central Park or the local waterfront... There used to be plenty of people walking, but for years now, things have been quiet. Are they living in some parallel universe?!
Nicholas Davis4 Nicholas Davis4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2023
#408 ·
driftingtinker said:During those spring lockdowns, my dogs were absolutely dying to get out for walks.

🤣

Is there more to this story, or just a random assortment of bits and pieces? 😁
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#409 ·
Lawrence Reed3 said:So, according to what the epidemiologists are saying—and I guess they know their stuff—you're actually allowed to head outdoors as long as you stay away from crowds and don't get right up in anyone's personal space. It’s just that the people actually enforcing these rules? They don't seem to get it at all—it feels more like they're just looking for any excuse to pad their pockets.

And what about that poor soul on the tractor who got jumped and beaten up $2667?
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#410 ·
melloworca6 said:That’s not even true. I’ve been asking around because this is a massive issue for me if I end up stuck in quarantine. You can leave your pet with a sitter (or pay for a kennel), or someone else can come walk them while you stay inside. You aren't supposed to go out yourself.

I don't see how I'm endangering anyone by putting on gloves and a mask and just walking the dog alone without talking to a soul. Especially since where I live, we can easily keep our distance from everyone else.

A friend of mine is currently in isolation; she isn't showing any symptoms and lives alone with her dog. An epidemiologist told her she's perfectly fine to take the dog for walks.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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#411 ·
Then they eased up. People were literally begging neighbors to walk their dogs because they weren't allowed out. We’d make deals among ourselves, but you can't realistically expect someone to step up and walk your dog three or four times a day for two straight weeks.

Edit: I think there’s a massive difference between being in self-isolation and being in actual quarantine because you're contagious. If you're infectious, you aren't going anywhere.

Nicholas Davis4 said:
melloworca6 As specified by:
This really shouldn't be happening. I've been looking into this because being forced into quarantine would be a massive headache for me. You can always find someone to watch your dog, or even pay for a pet hotel, or have a friend come by for walks—but you won't be allowed to leave the house yourself.

I honestly can't imagine who I'd be inconveniencing by throwing on my mask and gloves to take the dog for a walk. Especially since, where I live, there's plenty of room to maintain a good distance from everyone else anyway.

mellowskipper Asks:
I suppose you can only walk a dog if you actually own one.

It simply means that those who own dogs hold a certain level of privilege over those without them.
Why should anyone care whether someone owns a dog or not?
Who’s going to take care of things when you're sidelined with the flu, a pulled muscle, or a nasty stomach bug, especially if you're out in the Pacific Northwest?
Some of you will have the chance to get out and enjoy a walk, while others simply won't be able to.
Since they don't have a dog.

Unfer.

What’s your solution then? Let dogs pee and poop inside the house? Not everyone can handle that—my first dog certainly won't. Am I supposed to just let him get sick because he won't go inside after 12+ hours? I've tried it. We ended up locked in the house without a key; he wouldn't go for 14 hours until he literally couldn't hold it anymore and turned into a puddle. I'm not about to abuse my dog like that.

Believe it or not, even with a stomach bug, the flu, or dizziness so bad I'm hitting walls—along with all sorts of other pains—I still take the dog out to pee and crap, regardless of the weather, whether it's -5 or 105 degrees. No, I don't hang out with people when I'm feeling like absolute garbage and am contagious, but I still take him out to do his business. If I broke my leg, someone would probably jump in to help, but with COVID, you're stuck because even the people who usually help are stuck in isolation with you. That's why dog walking became such a mess for everyone—our backups go into lockdown right along with us since we're all in the same household.
Drew Gonzalez75 Drew Gonzalez75 Active Member
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#412 ·
melloworca6 said:Then they eased up. People were literally begging neighbors to walk their dogs because they weren't allowed out. We’d make deals among ourselves, but you can't realistically expect someone to step up and walk your dog three or four times a day for two straight weeks.

Edit: I think there’s a massive difference between being in self-isolation and being in actual quarantine because you're contagious. If you're infectious, you aren't going anywhere.

What’s your solution then? Let dogs pee and poop inside the house? Not everyone can handle that—my first dog certainly won't. Am I supposed to just let him get sick because he won't go inside after 12+ hours? I've tried it. We ended up locked in the house without a key; he wouldn't go for 14 hours until he literally couldn't hold it anymore and turned into a puddle. I'm not about to abuse my dog like that.

Believe it or not, even with a stomach bug, the flu, or dizziness so bad I'm hitting walls—along with all sorts of other pains—I still take the dog out to pee and crap, regardless of the weather, whether it's -5 or 105 degrees. No, I don't hang out with people when I'm feeling like absolute garbage and am contagious, but I still take him out to do his business. If I broke my leg, someone would probably jump in to help, but with COVID, you're stuck because even the people who usually help are stuck in isolation with you. That's why dog walking became such a mess for everyone—our backups go into lockdown right along with us since we're all in the same household.

Alternatively, you could board them at a kennel. And parents dealing with kids have plenty of hurdles to clear, so they find ways to make it work.
At the end of the day, having a dog is your choice. It isn't a necessity, so you shouldn't expect special privileges or exceptions that people without pets don't get.
Do you honestly think it isn't torture for a small child to be stuck inside for days without running through a park or even just out in front of the building?😵
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#413 ·
Drew Gonzalez75 said:Alternatively, you could board them at a kennel. And parents dealing with kids have plenty of hurdles to clear, so they find ways to make it work.
At the end of the day, having a dog is your choice. It isn't a necessity, so you shouldn't expect special privileges or exceptions that people without pets don't get.
Do you honestly think it isn't torture for a small child to be stuck inside for days without running through a park or even just out in front of the building?😵

We are talking about basic biological needs here, not social butterfly stuff.
If a kid is stuck in isolation for 14 days, I highly doubt they're going to come out with lifelong childhood trauma.
Dogs have to go to the bathroom—that's just reality—and I fail to see how taking them out three times a day is some sort of luxury. It's an obligation. Whether it's snowing, pouring rain, or it's 3 AM because they have diarrhea... yeah, what a privilege.
Drew Gonzalez75 Drew Gonzalez75 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#414 ·
That just goes to show that dogs aren't really meant for apartment living; people just keep them there on a whim.
Anyway, I won't go off-topic anymore. Honestly, if I find out someone is supposed to be in quarantine and I see them out walking their dog, I’m calling the police immediately. They can explain themselves to the authorities.
hollowfox3 hollowfox3 Member
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joined Oct 2020
#415 ·
I guess you just have to head out. You never really know who might be stuck in isolation or heaven forbid, under quarantine
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melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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joined May 2010
#416 ·
Drew Gonzalez75 said:That just goes to show that dogs aren't really meant for apartment living; people just keep them there on a whim.
Anyway, I won't go off-topic anymore. Honestly, if I find out someone is supposed to be in quarantine and I see them out walking their dog, I’m calling the police immediately. They can explain themselves to the authorities.

Good grief. 🤣

Thank God everyone's status is posted publicly so you know exactly who's quarantined or sick and can live your life accordingly. 😁 (Watch your step, too—everyone seems to be on edge lately, and you might catch a stray punch if you say the wrong thing). That’s probably why this virus isn't spreading faster; there's a giant neon sign over everyone's head flashing "I have COVID."
Keith Barrett2 Keith Barrett2 Active Member
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joined Nov 2021
#417 ·
If someone stuck in a quarantine lockdown with a dog, I bet you some animal lovers or those huge pet advocacy groups would jump at the chance to swing by and walk the pup a few times a day 🤔

Honestly, though, I can't wrap my head around how we've gotten to this point in America where people feel so disconnected that even friends, acquaintances, or neighbors wouldn't step up to help out.
Nicholas Davis4 Nicholas Davis4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2023
#418 ·
Maybe I'm wrong, but when you decide to get a dog, you really need to think long and hard about what happens if you can't look after them for a while.
Honestly, hearing how many dogs howl day and night in my apartment complex, it doesn't seem like people give this much thought.
The questions you’re raising—like what to do during a beach vacation, a business trip, or some other travel—plus what happens if you get sick...
It's not like everyone in the family is stuck at home in quarantine all the time.
There are friends, extended family, neighbors... How on earth did you decide to bring a dog into your life knowing you wouldn't have a support system if you needed one?

I actually make a plan for my houseplants before I go away, so it seems pretty irresponsible to own a dog without having a backup plan ready for when you can't be there.
Drew Gonzalez75 Drew Gonzalez75 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#419 ·
melloworca6 said:Good grief. 🤣

Thank God everyone's status is posted publicly so you know exactly who's quarantined or sick and can live your life accordingly. 😁 (Watch your step, too—everyone seems to be on edge lately, and you might catch a stray punch if you say the wrong thing). That’s probably why this virus isn't spreading faster; there's a giant neon sign over everyone's head flashing "I have COVID."

Don't worry about me; just look after your dog.☕
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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joined Jan 2023
#420 ·
This honestly reminds me of that old story about the poor guy with the tractor just trying to get to his field—it’s like he's some kind of biological terrorist. Personally, when I'm out walking my dog, I try to maintain at least a 15-foot buffer from anyone else. And if I have a mask on? Well... ugh. It feels like I'm sowing seeds of danger everywhere I go, God forbid.

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