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hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#2121 ·
Anthony Rodriguez8 said:Since they can't even manage to light a match, I suppose they couldn't care less about what happens to the small livestock out in the pasture.

I mean, look at how they pushed out Gabby, even though she was actually quite capable.😢

copperdrifter26 said:Honestly, it feels like Andrej Plenković has a deeper grudge against MOST than anyone I've ever seen. I mean, seriously, this is next level. He’s basically out there acting like kicking them out of The Cabinet was his absolute favorite thing to do just to grab all the political capital for himself. It makes me think they probably had him on such a tight leash back then that he couldn't move an inch without their permission, and now he's finally cutting loose.

That was some seriously bitter bile coming out of him.🙏
It just goes to show how incredibly on edge he is right now.

Nancy Gomez26 said:Let’s be realistic about the Republican Party perspective here: that entire saga with the Bridge Party was actually a massive win for Plenković. He managed to break free from a suffocating coalition partner while simultaneously maintaining his parliamentary majority and total control over the country. More importantly, he displayed that specific brand of arrogance typical of the Republican Party, which, predictably, earns him points with his party members. It wasn't a small feat. He owes much of that success to the political amateurism and naivety shown by the Bridge Party leadership, coupled with the deeply corrupt methods practiced within the upper echelons of power. However, I suspect the average American citizen isn't particularly interested in Plenković's victories from the previous term—that certainly wasn't the focus of this latest congressional session. Someone needed to say it out loud (if they haven't already).

Saying he became a hostage to Bandić after kicking them out... you can't exactly call that a "win."

🍿Why did they scrub the part about the final court ruling from the headline?
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
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#2122 ·
hollowmason64 said:I mean, look at how they pushed out Gabby, even though she was actually quite capable.😢

That was some seriously bitter bile coming out of him.🙏
It just goes to show how incredibly on edge he is right now.

Saying he became a hostage to Bandić after kicking them out... you can't exactly call that a "win."

🍿Why did they scrub the part about the final court ruling from the headline?

I was thinking the same thing. That detail probably should have stayed attached to the party name forever.🕺
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#2123 ·
hollowmason64 said:I mean, look at how they pushed out Gabby, even though she was actually quite capable.😢

That was some seriously bitter bile coming out of him.🙏
It just goes to show how incredibly on edge he is right now.

Saying he became a hostage to Bandić after kicking them out... you can't exactly call that a "win."

🍿Why did they scrub the part about the final court ruling from the headline?

Hostages of Eric Adams? Hardly. It was more of a successful symbiosis between similar political kleptocracies. Everyone knew exactly who was doing what and why; it was a predictable arrangement carried out through the end of the term. They could have easily maintained that synergy for five or six terms if they had remained just as aligned and entrenched.
The Microsoft party certainly wasn't some group of wide-eyed idealists hoping to "fix" the Republican Party.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#2124 ·
Tyler Vaughn7 said:I was thinking the same thing. That detail probably should have stayed attached to the party name forever.🕺

Charles Fox10 joined the Republican Party under the Guarantor banner🙂

Nancy Gomez26 said:Hostages of Eric Adams? Hardly. It was more of a successful symbiosis between similar political kleptocracies. Everyone knew exactly who was doing what and why; it was a predictable arrangement carried out through the end of the term. They could have easily maintained that synergy for five or six terms if they had remained just as aligned and entrenched.
The Microsoft party certainly wasn't some group of wide-eyed idealists hoping to "fix" the Republican Party.

Of course they weren't; that's how smoothly they aligned themselves. But look, that's a stain on them that people are always going to bring up. I don't see any kind of win in this.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
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#2125 ·
hollowmason64 said:Charles Fox10 joined the Republican Party under the Guarantor banner🙂

Of course they weren't; that's how smoothly they aligned themselves. But look, that's a stain on them that people are always going to bring up. I don't see any kind of win in this.

I've heard all kinds of nonsense in my time on the air, but this? This is a new low. I'll just pretend I have no idea what you two are even asking, because frankly, I don't have an answer.
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
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#2126 ·
Quincy:
Sugar I guess I should probably mention that...
Honestly, you two are talking absolute nonsense. I mean, this is some of the most nonsensical garbage I've ever heard in my life, but even if I wanted to engage, I wouldn't. I’ll just pretend I have no idea what either of you were even asking, because, frankly, I don't have an answer for you.
You don't even have to answer me; just put the convicted corrupt felons right there in the headline.😉
ruggeddrifter85 ruggeddrifter85 Member
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#2127 ·
Tyler Vaughn7 said:Quincy:
Sugar I guess I should probably mention that...
Honestly, you two are talking absolute nonsense. I mean, this is some of the most nonsensical garbage I've ever heard in my life, but even if I wanted to engage, I wouldn't. I’ll just pretend I have no idea what either of you were even asking, because, frankly, I don't have an answer for you.
You don't even have to answer me; just put the convicted corrupt felons right there in the headline.😉

Same here! I actually wanted to check in on what those crooks were up to, but now they've totally vanished. 😁
Emily Smith6 Emily Smith6 Active Member
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#2128 ·
Former Republican Party representative and her son slapped with 3.5-year sentence for allegedly swindling $15 million from the EPA

Quincy:
On Thursday, a regional court in Washington, D.C. handed down a non-binding three-and-a-half-year prison sentence to former Republican Party congresswoman Barbara Bush and her son, Krunoslav Bešenić. They were charged with defrauding the Environmental Protection Agency of roughly $15 million through a series of sham PET packaging buyback schemes.
It seems they never go for the small change, do they?
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#2129 ·
hollowmason64 said:Charles Fox10 joined the Republican Party under the Guarantor banner🙂

Of course they weren't; that's how smoothly they aligned themselves. But look, that's a stain on them that people are always going to bring up. I don't see any kind of win in this.

I wasn't thrilled with how things shook out either, but in that particular political brawl, the Republican Party walked away with a clear win. It was tight, sure, but they had the expertise and the resources, and they leveraged them effectively.
MB 365 didn't hold them hostage; there were just a few minor "adjustments" made along the way. MB knew exactly how to play that game—he wasn't trying to demand everything at once like some unrealistic bridge builder. Instead, they mostly cooperated quite smoothly, much like two sides of the same coin. They operate on the same level and understand one another perfectly. For the late MB, I honestly believe he was one of the most gifted politicians this country has ever seen; it's just a shame he squandered such raw talent on the wrong causes.
To actually defeat an opponent politically, you have to identify their strengths and their weaknesses first. If an opponent is doing something well, you have to acknowledge it and pivot your own strategy accordingly.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#2130 ·
Emily Smith6 said:Former Republican Party representative and her son slapped with 3.5-year sentence for allegedly swindling $15 million from the EPA

Quincy:
On Thursday, a regional court in Washington, D.C. handed down a non-binding three-and-a-half-year prison sentence to former Republican Party congresswoman Barbara Bush and her son, Krunoslav Bešenić. They were charged with defrauding the Environmental Protection Agency of roughly $15 million through a series of sham PET packaging buyback schemes.
It seems they never go for the small change, do they?

It’s just bad math. If they land a sentence that light—and they’ll likely be out early anyway—while keeping the cash, then those 3.5 years are essentially a profitable business trip. You grab the money, serve your time, and walk away a free man.
The punishment is far too lenient.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
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#2131 ·
Emily Smith6 said:Former Republican Party representative and her son slapped with 3.5-year sentence for allegedly swindling $15 million from the EPA

Quincy:
On Thursday, a regional court in Washington, D.C. handed down a non-binding three-and-a-half-year prison sentence to former Republican Party congresswoman Barbara Bush and her son, Krunoslav Bešenić. They were charged with defrauding the Environmental Protection Agency of roughly $15 million through a series of sham PET packaging buyback schemes.
It seems they never go for the small change, do they?

Oh, please, they certainly do; there was just that story about those local bureaucrats skimming off the top on printer toner.

But when you look higher up at the massive sums, that's where the Republican specialists operate.
frozengull94 frozengull94 Member
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#2132 ·
So, the Congresswoman and her son... if I’m reading this correctly, they got probation instead of actual jail time.
I assume there will be appeals and more legal maneuvering following this..
It’s pretty interesting how they’re bringing up mitigating circumstances, claiming the passage of time played a role—though I honestly have no clue what that’s supposed to imply, provided my interpretation of the report is right. And don't even get me started on the statute of limitations!..

The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that I don't understand the American justice system at all.
Just a slap on the wrist.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#2133 ·
Charles Fox10 said:I've heard all kinds of nonsense in my time on the air, but this? This is a new low. I'll just pretend I have no idea what you two are even asking, because frankly, I don't have an answer.

There you go, already starting to sound like a true Republican. ☕

Nancy Gomez26 said:I wasn't thrilled with how things shook out either, but in that particular political brawl, the Republican Party walked away with a clear win. It was tight, sure, but they had the expertise and the resources, and they leveraged them effectively.
MB 365 didn't hold them hostage; there were just a few minor "adjustments" made along the way. MB knew exactly how to play that game—he wasn't trying to demand everything at once like some unrealistic bridge builder. Instead, they mostly cooperated quite smoothly, much like two sides of the same coin. They operate on the same level and understand one another perfectly. For the late MB, I honestly believe he was one of the most gifted politicians this country has ever seen; it's just a shame he squandered such raw talent on the wrong causes.
To actually defeat an opponent politically, you have to identify their strengths and their weaknesses first. If an opponent is doing something well, you have to acknowledge it and pivot your own strategy accordingly.

What kind of expertise? What resources? The only thing they actually possess is the sheer audacity to know that nobody is quite big enough to team up with them to stay in power.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#2134 ·
hollowmason64 said:There you go, already starting to sound like a true Republican. ☕

What kind of expertise? What resources? The only thing they actually possess is the sheer audacity to know that nobody is quite big enough to team up with them to stay in power.

They had (and still have) the expertise required to grease the palms of members of Congress through corruption. It’s a simple formula: we drop the charges against you if you join our ranks. Not an impossible feat when you hold the leash on those filing the indictments.
They also wielded every single resource of the state to enforce their agenda. Granted, having the ruling party exert control over the Department of Justice might not be strictly legal, but in practice, it is clearly the reality. And that is merely one shared resource they weaponize to push their policies. We aren't talking about someone misusing a government vehicle for a personal errand; this is the systematic deployment of the state's repressive apparatus for political ends. It is a different magnitude of abuse entirely, and it inflicts massive damage on society.
Calling it shameless might be an exaggeration by your standards, but to them, these are likely viewed as perfectly legitimate methods of political warfare. Along with everything else, this is simply the standard operating procedure for the Republican Party. The DOJ becomes a tool for political combat; that is the level at which they play. If you intend to counter people like this, you have to be prepared to dismantle the entire system once you seize power. That is precisely where the opposition failed miserably during their last term in office.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#2135 ·
Exactly. And let’s be real—none of that counts as an actual win or any kind of expertise. The only people who would try to slap those fake positive labels on such nonsense are the ones who share the exact same pathetic mindset as that criminal scum.
The Republican partisans are absolute bottom-feeders who deserve nothing but total contempt.
Alex Moore3 Alex Moore3 Active Member
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#2136 ·
This is reaching a whole new level of disrespect. Insisting on protecting a compromised Attorney General—someone who was caught lying to Congress twice and tried to shield former Secretary Zelal—is a total slap in the face to every citizen. It’s a joke.
What will it take for the people voting for them to actually open their eyes?
Are we really supposed to wait until the European Union steps in and demands the Republican Party be removed?
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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#2137 ·
It feels like Andrej Plenković went from being just a few steps away from landing some massive high-level job in the European Union to basically turning into Lukashenko 2.0, who’s probably gonna declare war on the EU any day now.
Terry Hernandez10 Terry Hernandez10 Active Member
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#2138 ·
Sinčić is finally going on the offensive against the Republican Party—he's spent the last year gathering intel and is now systematically filing reports with the DOJ and federal prosecutors.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00063801743181
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#2139 ·
Alex Moore3 said:This is reaching a whole new level of disrespect. Insisting on protecting a compromised Attorney General—someone who was caught lying to Congress twice and tried to shield former Secretary Zelal—is a total slap in the face to every citizen. It’s a joke.
What will it take for the people voting for them to actually open their eyes?
Are we really supposed to wait until the European Union steps in and demands the Republican Party be removed?

Honestly, they've been making fools of us for thirty years and getting away with it. I don't see why things would suddenly change now.
And the people voting for them? They're just as complicit. Either they've got skin in the game, or they're just hoping the system will bail them out later—kind of like how she tried to protect Gabby's associates, only to have the folks from the European Union screw them over anyway.

The way the Republican Party is shielding this incompetent, corrupt Attorney General is basically their way of saying "thanks" for all those ignored complaints against their own members, like the recent one involving Tusk.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#2140 ·
Alex Moore3 said:This is reaching a whole new level of disrespect. Insisting on protecting a compromised Attorney General—someone who was caught lying to Congress twice and tried to shield former Secretary Zelal—is a total slap in the face to every citizen. It’s a joke.
What will it take for the people voting for them to actually open their eyes?
Are we really supposed to wait until the European Union steps in and demands the Republican Party be removed?

🤣

The guy who inherited the folder full of links from that Washington, D.C. agent...

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