Republican Party - General Discussion

Is Miljan Brkić's standing within the party—his actual membership—on shaky ground right now?

Honestly, watching Plenković absolutely dismantle Kovac and his whole crew was like watching a pro athlete run circles around some local amateur; he just totally owned them.

Sean Ruiz33 said:Essentially, we’re looking at an election where you have to choose between the Democratic Party—who are basically just rebranded communists—or the Republican Party, which functions more like a group of liberals. It feels like we're just picking the lesser of two evils at this point. If the right wants to actually matter, they need to step up and establish themselves as a legitimate third option. People like Škoro, Kovac, Stier, Brkić, Esih, Hasanbegovic, and Glasnovic really ought to consider forming a unified front if they want to see any real change.

I doubt it—that kind of "identity sovereignty" populism just doesn't fly here in the States.
Even Škoro is a question mark when it comes to making any real dent in the polls.

The Bridge party might have a shot if they run solo, since they're a bit more tactical than the rest.

Carol Newman2 said:With yesterday's election results, Oleg Butković has officially ascended to become the number two figure within the Republican Party.

The party's golden boy is exactly the same every single time. Whenever anyone asks him anything, he suddenly develops total amnesia. He won't dare voice a single opinion of his own until the big boss weighs in—then, and only then, does he pivot to match whatever line was just handed down. I guess that’s just how he climbs the ladder in the Republican Party.🤣

Thomas Nelson25 said:I doubt it—that kind of "identity sovereignty" populism just doesn't fly here in the States.
Even Škoro is a question mark when it comes to making any real dent in the polls.

The Bridge party might have a shot if they run solo, since they're a bit more tactical than the rest.

Nah, it won't work because our so-called sovereignty movement isn't even on the same page as the actual sovereignists over in Europe. I mean, what does Glasnović actually know about modern-day challenges, other than rambling on about those old-school zombies from the Cold War era?! Today's right wing is still stuck obsessing over Marshall and the old regime, which honestly isn't even provocative enough to get a reaction out of their own base anymore.

bluerider63 said:Nah, it won't work because our so-called sovereignty movement isn't even on the same page as the actual sovereignists over in Europe. I mean, what does Glasnović actually know about modern-day challenges, other than rambling on about those old-school zombies from the Cold War era?! Today's right wing is still stuck obsessing over Marshall and the old regime, which honestly isn't even provocative enough to get a reaction out of their own base anymore.

I'm with you—they just don't have any real intellectuals.

By the way, do you really think those so-called identity groups (the populists) in the European Parliament actually have a clue what they want or a vision for Europe?

Plenković basically embraced pure demonization—it’s clearly the best move for the Republicans, otherwise they’d just be some niche nationalist movement. Too bad things change so slowly, which eventually messes with the whole country.

I suppose if I were to take everything that was said and look at it through a more balanced lens, I might conclude that there is a certain depth to the argument being presented here. It feels as though we are perhaps overlooking some of the finer nuances of the situation, which leads me to believe that a more careful examination might be necessary before we jump to any definitive conclusions. Maybe, in hindsight, the implications could be even broader than we initially anticipated, though I can't say for certain without further evidence.

Charles Brown9 As stated by: I suppose that would be an absolutely unprecedented shock to the system!😲 Of course they’re going to stick with the Republican Party and play the role of the loyalists; honestly, it feels like that's the only move they have left. If they don't fall in line, I suspect Plenković might just kick them off the ballot entirely before the next general election. And then, heaven forbid, they might actually be forced to start doing some real work instead of just idling around the halls of US Congress, making up excuses and doing absolutely nothing of substance. I suppose we might be witnessing the emergence of entirely new political paradigms, though I find myself hesitating to label them quite so definitively just yet. It feels as though the old frameworks we once relied upon to make sense of our governance are beginning to fray at the edges, perhaps suggesting that the traditional divisions between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party might not capture the full complexity of what is unfolding in America today. Maybe we are moving toward a landscape where the historical allegiances that defined previous generations simply no longer carry the same weight, leaving us to navigate a much more fragmented and unpredictable political reality. 😲

It wasn't particularly difficult to see that coming, I suppose.

I guess I should probably start by saying that I find myself reflecting quite a bit on what was recently shared. It seems to me, perhaps, that there is a certain weight to these discussions that we shouldn't overlook if we want to truly understand where things are headed.

I suppose the responsibility now falls upon all of us to focus on unifying the Republican Party, while simultaneously working to reconnect with our base through a platform that can truly earn the majority support of the American people. It seems to me that we will have the opportunity to make our meaningful contribution once the preparations for the Congressional elections officially get underway."I suppose," Stier remarked, "that's really how it stands."

It feels as though they’ve already abandoned any sense of consistency, and the election hasn't even arrived yet.

I suppose one could begin forecasting a period of total withdrawal into a mouse hole lasting about six months, followed by a rather triumphant emergence once Plenković inevitably collapses during the elections due to his complete lack of coalition potential.

I can't help but wonder, though—what would actually happen if they ended up helping to form a Grand Coalition?

I wonder if we might be looking at a truly visionary move by aligning with Škoro to bolster the opposition? It feels like a possibility that deserves some serious thought, though I suppose it's hard to say for certain without seeing how the pieces actually fall into place. 🙂

Charles Carter4 said:So, The New York Times or Hanza—take your pick—is trying to spin this idea that Plenković winning is actually what's best for the country.

Honestly, what a total joke of a newspaper.🙏

You can say that again...
If we were talking about what’s actually good for the country, we’d be rooting for that trio potpun idiot to take it all. ...

The Republicans aren't stupid; they know perfectly well that if that specific trio won, nobody with half a brain would ever vote for them again, except maybe some absolute bottom-of-the-barrel extremists on the right.
But with Plenković and his crew, they’ve got a real shot at even picking up a decent chunk of votes from those people who despise the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party, because let's face it—no sane person is going to cast a ballot for those complete morons over at the Democratic Party led by that absolute clown, Berni.

Honestly, the only thing that really threw me for a loop during this whole election cycle was how poorly Milijan Brkić did... I mean, I was seriously expecting him to pull way more votes than that. That whole crew—Kovac, Penava, and the rest—they honestly might have had a better shot at winning over users like math_baby, if anyone even remembers her, compared to those two 🤦. If Škoro had just joined the Republican Party and run as their guy (just playing it safe and easy), he probably would've stood a much better chance, but I guess he wasn't willing to take that kind of risk.

Carl Wilson said:Honestly, the only thing that really threw me for a loop during this whole election cycle was how poorly Milijan Brkić did... I mean, I was seriously expecting him to pull way more votes than that. That whole crew—Kovac, Penava, and the rest—they honestly might have had a better shot at winning over users like math_baby, if anyone even remembers her, compared to those two 🤦. If Škoro had just joined the Republican Party and run as their guy (just playing it safe and easy), he probably would've stood a much better chance, but I guess he wasn't willing to take that kind of risk.

Vaso Milijan was really living the high life. He lived off loans to buy up stocks, shoved his daughter into a cushy gig at the Republican Party offices in Brussels within the European Commission—she’s got a bright career ahead of her—and there are whispers about expensive motorcycles and racing horses because apparently, she’s into equestrian stuff. Basically, it was just shady dealings everywhere you looked. His brother rents out an unknown number of storefronts in Washington, D.C., so it was a total paradise. And just when he thought he was ready to climb to the top and become the leader instead of just being a follower—boom, screw him. His most loyal buddies left him out in the cold.
Now we just have to see if he can suck up to Plenković enough to get back into the fold. If he does, Vaso is going to settle the score with the rebels in the ranks, and God help them.

darkotter35 said:You can say that again...
If we were talking about what’s actually good for the country, we’d be rooting for that trio potpun idiot to take it all. ...

The Republicans aren't stupid; they know perfectly well that if that specific trio won, nobody with half a brain would ever vote for them again, except maybe some absolute bottom-of-the-barrel extremists on the right.
But with Plenković and his crew, they’ve got a real shot at even picking up a decent chunk of votes from those people who despise the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party, because let's face it—no sane person is going to cast a ballot for those complete morons over at the Democratic Party led by that absolute clown, Berni.

Yeah. Now everyone is claiming this is a good setup because it creates a legit foundation for a strong sovereignist Milo my man option to the right of the Republican Party. If the alternatives had won, the Republican Party would have just drifted further right, leaving zero breathing room for anyone else. The radicals are basically in a win-win situation here, and honestly, they'd much rather take that second win. 🤣

Personally, I love it when people get dragged out into the light so you can see how many there actually are. Yesterday, they made up maybe 20-25% of the Republican crowd.

In an election where the Republican Party isn't busy poaching their territory, they could actually kill it if they managed to band together and put forward people who are capable of saying something smarter than just "Plenković is an ultra-liberal." But that's always been their Achilles' heel. That's why the more honest ones among them would probably admit they'd much prefer if Kovac had won, just so they could blame the entire Republican Party vote count on the radical right.

Jandroković says instead of Miljan Brkić, we're getting Ante Sanders as the new Deputy Speaker of the US Congress

And so it begins 🎉

America is changing forever. It’s blindingly obvious that guys like Njonjo, some dry desert relic, Emil Tedeschi—better known as Sinjanin, Lora Vidović, Tena Mišetić, Milorad Pupavac, and Ivan Vrdoljak—are the ones really pulling the strings in this country. Meanwhile, people are fleeing the States like there's a plague sweeping through. Honestly, let them go; they're a perfect reflection of the nation anyway..

Amy Nelson4 said:Jandroković says instead of Miljan Brkić, we're getting Ante Sanders as the new Deputy Speaker of the US Congress

And so it begins 🎉

The career politicians just won't leave the party, can they? As long as there's money to grab, they stay right where they are. Unbelievable.

He’s staying put. Who are these "patriots" anyway?

☕

darkotter35 said:You can say that again...
If we were talking about what’s actually good for the country, we’d be rooting for that trio potpun idiot to take it all. ...

The Republicans aren't stupid; they know perfectly well that if that specific trio won, nobody with half a brain would ever vote for them again, except maybe some absolute bottom-of-the-barrel extremists on the right.
But with Plenković and his crew, they’ve got a real shot at even picking up a decent chunk of votes from those people who despise the Democratic Party and the Democratic Party, because let's face it—no sane person is going to cast a ballot for those complete morons over at the Democratic Party led by that absolute clown, Berni.

But honestly, for the country, it doesn't really matter who wins—because all of them will just end up teaming up again the moment they get their hands on the federal budget.

As for what you said about unknown, I think you're mistaken there. People actually find that clumsy unknown much more relatable than the corrupt Republican Party and unknown.

He touched on the recent Republican Party election results and the shake-up where the political strategist is losing his deputy speaker seat, while the diplomat moves over to lead the Foreign Affairs Committee.

"The takeaway from our members is pretty clear: electing all four deputy candidates shows everyone is behind our direction. It makes total sense for that political figure to step up as deputy speaker. Look, the political strategist and the diplomat are still part of the Republican Party. But at the top levels, we need people who actually believe in our vision—not someone who was complaining just yesterday that the party is headed the wrong way and everything is a mess," he said.

When asked about the game plan for the upcoming congressional elections, he mentioned they haven't even started talking about potential local coalitions yet.

"There is zero chance we’re running on the same tickets as the Democratic Party. If we were dealing with this kind of crisis ten years ago, I wouldn't be nearly as confident in our ability to handle outside shocks. Honestly, America looks a whole lot better now than it did four years ago. We wouldn't be in this position without political stability and having that solid 76-vote majority in Congress," the President noted.

Larry Walker24 said:He touched on the recent Republican Party election results and the shake-up where the political strategist is losing his deputy speaker seat, while the diplomat moves over to lead the Foreign Affairs Committee.

"The takeaway from our members is pretty clear: electing all four deputy candidates shows everyone is behind our direction. It makes total sense for that political figure to step up as deputy speaker. Look, the political strategist and the diplomat are still part of the Republican Party. But at the top levels, we need people who actually believe in our vision—not someone who was complaining just yesterday that the party is headed the wrong way and everything is a mess," he said.

When asked about the game plan for the upcoming congressional elections, he mentioned they haven't even started talking about potential local coalitions yet.

"There is zero chance we’re running on the same tickets as the Democratic Party. If we were dealing with this kind of crisis ten years ago, I wouldn't be nearly as confident in our ability to handle outside shocks. Honestly, America looks a whole lot better now than it did four years ago. We wouldn't be in this position without political stability and having that solid 76-vote majority in Congress," the President noted.

Well, at least it's movement of some kind. 😁

I suppose it's finally becoming quite obvious why the Democratic Party has been slowly falling apart for a while now.

Putting Andrej Plenković at the helm of the Republican Party and the nation is like appointing a mid-level Austrian diplomat to lead an entire country.
It’s a perfect fit for an America that seems terrified of being anything more than a bland, characterless province of the EU.
Meanwhile, the right wing is a complete wasteland—no one with actual intelligence will risk their career by stepping up—while the media will just grill someone like Trump like a cheap steak at a roadside diner.

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/news/article-about-congressional-pay-and-privileges-12345

What absolute wretches. Pure masochists, really. They’re willing to sit there and let Andrej Plenković whip them into shape just to secure another six months of those Congressional salaries and perks—likely the last time they'll ever see a paycheck like that. It's pathetic. Instead of turning their backs on him immediately and tearing his administration down brick by brick, they just take it.

Mike Johnson just dropped this: ‘Marc Silvan is out as Deputy Speaker of the US Congress, and George W. Bush is stepping in instead.’
At the exact same time, John Kerry is vacating his seat as head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Classic Joe Biden!!!!
Just stripping everyone of their power!!!🙏

If they can just get rid of that sensitive type Lloyd Austin, then that whole "powerful right wing of the Republican Party" 🤣
will be completely dismantled....