Republican Party - General Discussion

Brandon Chavez28 said:Under Plenković, the United States is falling further and further behind the rest of the developed world—and I don't mean just slightly behind. We used to be peers, perhaps even leaders in certain sectors, but now? We’re being outpaced like children in a race we didn't even realize we were running. The brain drain, the complete lack of legal certainty, the economic instability—it is all systematically dismantling this nation and its society. You can feel the pessimism in the air everywhere you go, yet the political elite couldn't care less. For Plenković, the only thing that matters is securing a cozy little desk in Brussels; meanwhile, clientelism has reached levels that are frankly dangerous, and it feels like nobody is actually at the helm. These shadowy, semi-formal interest groups—think the old-school lobbyists or those deep-state types—aren't even hiding anymore. They are making it crystal clear that the country is nothing more than their personal prey, tearing it apart like a pack of hyenas. Things have never been worse. Honestly, we’ve just been riding the wave of global economic growth fueled by cheap credit, which has kept us afloat, but here is the grim reality: that party is coming to an end.

The exodus of talent will keep going, the gloom will continue to thicken, and—mark my words—people will likely follow the herd again, choosing the very same politicians who dragged them into this mess in the first place.

The most critical period of decline occurred under Sanders's Government. During that era, the general economic upswing was exploited primarily for theft and lining private pockets.

Plenković and the Republican Party are currently leveraging the present economic climate to consolidate Republican power rather than attempting to catch up with the rest of the developed world.

Naturally, lining their own pockets remains on the agenda; how and when they execute that will become clear enough in the coming years.

I don't get this whole thing where everyone's bashing Stier and Kovač, calling them clueless losers compared to Plenković. I can see why people go after Penava, sure, but what makes those two any dumber or more incompetent? 😕

Look, let's be real—I'm talking about running the party here. When it comes to leading the country, I honestly don't expect much from any of these guys. 😁 That said, if the Kovač-Stier-Penava crew forms a post-election coalition with Škorin's block, it’s basically a done deal. But if Plenković stays in charge of the party? Building a majority is going to be a total toss-up. It's pretty unlikely any of the current Republican partners will even hit the threshold (except for the ones the Republican Party just pulls into Congress themselves); plus, who knows how messy the post-election political maneuvering will get, heh.

Miro Kovač: Vladimir Šeks warned me I might need a lawyer once the Republican Party primaries wrap up

..."It is simply an undeniable fact that people are being coerced through their jobs, their loans, and various other opportunities. Members of my own staff have faced direct threats, which is a reality; it’s clearly not an easy situation for the broader membership," he stated.

He also mentioned that during the Republican Party anniversary event this past Tuesday in New York City, Vladimir Šeks—who is essentially acting as Plenković's mentor—told him quite bluntly that he would likely require legal counsel following the internal party elections...

Those are incredibly heavy accusations, and I suspect they aren't the kind of things that can just be brushed aside easily.

It seems increasingly obvious to me that we are looking at some massive purges within the party following these internal elections.

Noah Perez5 said:Miro Kovač: Vladimir Šeks warned me I might need a lawyer once the Republican Party primaries wrap up

..."It is simply an undeniable fact that people are being coerced through their jobs, their loans, and various other opportunities. Members of my own staff have faced direct threats, which is a reality; it’s clearly not an easy situation for the broader membership," he stated.

He also mentioned that during the Republican Party anniversary event this past Tuesday in New York City, Vladimir Šeks—who is essentially acting as Plenković's mentor—told him quite bluntly that he would likely require legal counsel following the internal party elections...

Those are incredibly heavy accusations, and I suspect they aren't the kind of things that can just be brushed aside easily.

It seems increasingly obvious to me that we are looking at some massive purges within the party following these internal elections.

I don't see what the big deal is here. It’s obvious that anyone who loses via an expedited process is getting kicked out of the Republican Party. That’s how it’s always worked, and that’s how it’ll stay.

Timothy Stewart4 said:I don't see what the big deal is here. It’s obvious that anyone who loses via an expedited process is getting kicked out of the Republican Party. That’s how it’s always worked, and that’s how it’ll stay.

That makes sense, I suppose, but I have this nagging feeling that we might actually be looking at a much more significant split this time around. I can't quite recall ever seeing such a massive amount of heavy accusations and dirty laundry being aired all at once.

It feels like this could potentially undermine the internal cohesion of the party, especially regarding issues like nepotism and efforts to cover up certain shady dealings. These are incredibly sensitive allegations, and they seem to go far beyond the usual routine ideological bickering.

Anything could happen at this point, I guess.

Though, honestly, after everything involving Gabrić and the Department of Justice, it wouldn't even surprise me if some sort of grand conspiracy was ultimately responsible for the whole fallout. 😁

The internal elections within the Republican Party are currently underway, and Penava admits they are running into some hurdles regarding the signature collection process.

"We are facing challenges gathering signatures on several different levels, though it really doesn't come as much of a surprise to us. The most problematic fact is that while we officially claim to have 211,000 members, our actual numbers aren't even close to that, which makes things incredibly difficult since the required number of signatures is based on that inflated total. Current estimates suggest we don't even have half of that amount because, quite frankly, people have passed away or moved away, leaving us in this position where we are chasing an unrealistic percentage.

On top of all that, you have to deal with a specific mindset among people that I can only describe as subservient—it’s a clientelist way of thinking where everyone feels they need to stay in the good graces of the current power structures just to avoid getting into an awkward spot. Most people, when they consider their next move, tend to act from a purely self-interested perspective, focusing solely on their own businesses and personal interests. I’m not saying there is a direct order coming from the top, but the reality is that a certain level of self-censorship is definitely present. You see instances where some people are openly lobbied while others are being undermined, and sometimes local officials get a bit too carried away, leading to subtle threats being made." Penava noted, adding that these pressures haven't been directed at the actual candidates in these internal elections, but rather at the regular members working out in the field.

Despite all these logistical headaches, Penava remains confident that they will manage to pull together enough signatures.

"I can't give you an exact figure right now, but I would say we are about halfway to the target number."

Penava is missing one possibility here. Maybe people just don't think that trio can actually handle running the Republican Party—or rather, they simply don't buy what they're selling. It’s always easier to point fingers at everyone else than to actually take a hard look at your own failures and stances.

Noah Perez5 said:Miro Kovač: Vladimir Šeks warned me I might need a lawyer once the Republican Party primaries wrap up

..."It is simply an undeniable fact that people are being coerced through their jobs, their loans, and various other opportunities. Members of my own staff have faced direct threats, which is a reality; it’s clearly not an easy situation for the broader membership," he stated.

He also mentioned that during the Republican Party anniversary event this past Tuesday in New York City, Vladimir Šeks—who is essentially acting as Plenković's mentor—told him quite bluntly that he would likely require legal counsel following the internal party elections...

Those are incredibly heavy accusations, and I suspect they aren't the kind of things that can just be brushed aside easily.

It seems increasingly obvious to me that we are looking at some massive purges within the party following these internal elections.

Though that doesn't necessarily mean anything good for the public, since it might just be one group of cronies clearing out another so the first group can grab a bigger slice of the pie.

Kovač is calling for a League of Women Voters audit while they simultaneously panic about failing to hit their signature quota
The most controversial point here is their claim of having 211,000 members, when in reality, we aren't even close to that number. It’s making things harder because the required signature count is higher, according to Penava.

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If you actually knew what you were doing as a politician, you wouldn't be struggling this much just to collect signatures.

It looks like the Game of Thrones drama within the Republican Party is still going strong. Apparently, šofer Brkić is using his old boss Gabrić to take a shot at one of those Plenki-esque loyalists—specifically Jelenić. Now, Plenki is the target. Though, if I’m being honest, despite this aggressive move by šofer Brkić, Plenki still holds a massive lead. 🍿

Now I’m reading that comrade Gabrić isn't even done yet—he’s supposedly planning to "expose" yet another corrupt crew. I’d bet my life it’s mostly just Plenki-esque puppets 😉. God help us all having to deal with a self-righteous moral crusader like comrade Gabrić...

I'm dropping this here too because people just need to see this.

The sinčić guy was on Open TV earlier showing off Jelenić-esque asset disclosures, claiming he owns over 6% of Berkshire Hathaway.
Back when Živi Zid filed their lawsuit against the Borg group, they went after Berkshire Hathaway, but the court tossed it out.
Now, they've found out that they actually filed a lawsuit against Jelenić himself!

Noah Perez5 said:Miro Kovač: Vladimir Šeks warned me I might need a lawyer once the Republican Party primaries wrap up

..."It is simply an undeniable fact that people are being coerced through their jobs, their loans, and various other opportunities. Members of my own staff have faced direct threats, which is a reality; it’s clearly not an easy situation for the broader membership," he stated.

He also mentioned that during the Republican Party anniversary event this past Tuesday in New York City, Vladimir Šeks—who is essentially acting as Plenković's mentor—told him quite bluntly that he would likely require legal counsel following the internal party elections...

Those are incredibly heavy accusations, and I suspect they aren't the kind of things that can just be brushed aside easily.

It seems increasingly obvious to me that we are looking at some massive purges within the party following these internal elections.

I have such mixed feelings about these Republican Party elections.

Part of me really wants to see Plenković take a massive hit to his ego if Kovač manages to beat him—I'd love to see the look on his face. But then again, I'd also hate to see Kovač get kicked out of the Republican Party by Plenković once he secures his win.

Charles Brown9 said:I have such mixed feelings about these Republican Party elections.

Part of me really wants to see Plenković take a massive hit to his ego if Kovač manages to beat him—I'd love to see the look on his face. But then again, I'd also hate to see Kovač get kicked out of the Republican Party by Plenković once he secures his win.

Someone is eventually going to get handed their walking papers by the Republican Party; just relax, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the show.

It is entirely irrelevant whether it is Plenković or Kovač at the helm. The Republican Party will not undergo any meaningful transformation because it functions less as a political entity and more as a collection of private interests. To be clear, I am not referring to public ambitions, but rather the self-serving agendas of its individual members.

The history page on the Republican Party website isn't going to change, because as far as they are concerned, their history ended in 1999.

driftingtinker said:So, this Zdravka Busic lady who just went on that massive rant about how "everyone here is just a total jerk to the diaspora"... I mean, is she really the same Busic who used to be an ambassador back in the day, basically using our tax dollars to foot the bill for people moving over from Canada?

You mean, is she the sister of that terrorist Bušić? Yeah, she is.

Carol Newman2 said:https://twitter.com/KICZO/status/122...463792640?s=19

The Antiplenkovićevac crowd is absolutely buzzing right now. Total victory vibes in their camp.

It’s pretty obvious none of them finished middle school.

Brenda Taylor13 said:So, let me get this straight—you're basing your entire conclusion on the rebranding of some soccer club?

Building a nation from scratch, setting up diplomacy, raising an army, winning a war when nobody gave us even a 5% chance, fighting for international recognition when almost everyone was against us... all of that just doesn't matter because of some club's name? Seriously? Based on how you're writing, I'm guessing you're younger since you actually have to look things up in books—I lived through this stuff firsthand. So, I'll tell you straight, as a born Zagrapcanin and a die-hard Los Angeles FC fan: the name of Los Angeles FC is completely irrelevant compared to everything Harmon pulled off when hardly anyone believed it was possible. Winning a war and building a country is incomparable to anything else, let alone some sports team's branding. Comparing those two things is just completely pointless.

Franjo Harmon didn't achieve anything, period. Those achievements belong to the people who were actually out there on the front lines, while that crooked crook and his little crew of buddies were busy scavenging off the country.

Brandon Chavez28 said:Under Plenković, the United States is falling further and further behind the rest of the developed world—and I don't mean just slightly behind. We used to be peers, perhaps even leaders in certain sectors, but now? We’re being outpaced like children in a race we didn't even realize we were running. The brain drain, the complete lack of legal certainty, the economic instability—it is all systematically dismantling this nation and its society. You can feel the pessimism in the air everywhere you go, yet the political elite couldn't care less. For Plenković, the only thing that matters is securing a cozy little desk in Brussels; meanwhile, clientelism has reached levels that are frankly dangerous, and it feels like nobody is actually at the helm. These shadowy, semi-formal interest groups—think the old-school lobbyists or those deep-state types—aren't even hiding anymore. They are making it crystal clear that the country is nothing more than their personal prey, tearing it apart like a pack of hyenas. Things have never been worse. Honestly, we’ve just been riding the wave of global economic growth fueled by cheap credit, which has kept us afloat, but here is the grim reality: that party is coming to an end.

The exodus of talent will keep going, the gloom will continue to thicken, and—mark my words—people will likely follow the herd again, choosing the very same politicians who dragged them into this mess in the first place.

Look, Plenković is a Republican, which basically means he's a corrupt crook and total moral garbage. But honestly, suggesting things would be any better if some other Republican scumbag was sitting in his chair is just complete nonsense.
You'd have to be incredibly dense to genuinely believe that any Republican could ever be good for this country.

hollowmason64 said:You mean, is she the sister of that terrorist Bušić? Yeah, she is.

It’s pretty obvious none of them finished middle school.

Franjo Harmon didn't achieve anything, period. Those achievements belong to the people who were actually out there on the front lines, while that crooked crook and his little crew of buddies were busy scavenging off the country.

Look, Plenković is a Republican, which basically means he's a corrupt crook and total moral garbage. But honestly, suggesting things would be any better if some other Republican scumbag was sitting in his chair is just complete nonsense.
You'd have to be incredibly dense to genuinely believe that any Republican could ever be good for this country.

I have no idea where you got the notion that I think things would be better if some different Republican degenerate replaced Plenković. Honestly, seeing the Republican Party and its members plastered everywhere you look isn't healthy—it's bad for your constitution.

But fine, let's play along with your logic for a second: you truly must be profoundly stupid to honestly believe that either a Republican or a Democrat could ever be good for this nation. And I mean "profoundly" stupid.

hollowmason64 said:You mean, is she the sister of that terrorist Bušić? Yeah, she is.

It’s pretty obvious none of them finished middle school.

Franjo Harmon didn't achieve anything, period. Those achievements belong to the people who were actually out there on the front lines, while that crooked crook and his little crew of buddies were busy scavenging off the country.

Look, Plenković is a Republican, which basically means he's a corrupt crook and total moral garbage. But honestly, suggesting things would be any better if some other Republican scumbag was sitting in his chair is just complete nonsense.
You'd have to be incredibly dense to genuinely believe that any Republican could ever be good for this country.

Man, what a "classy lady" you are—I can practically smell the elite private school training from here. A true woman from Chicago. 👍

Anyway, you’re talking absolute nonsense. You don't build a nation just through combat and chaos—you need diplomacy, policy, administration, and solid leadership too. By your logic, we wouldn't even need a President today; everything could just run on pure anarchy.

Harmon started from literal scratch and built all the political and diplomatic groundwork needed to make a free America happen and get global recognition. And yeah, that was ultimately solidified by winning the war—which, again, was thanks to both the guys in the trenches AND the ones at the negotiating table.

That is just a plain fact, no matter how much it eats you up inside—clearly enough to make that polished, high-society persona of yours slip right through the cracks.

Brenda Taylor13 said:Man, what a "classy lady" you are—I can practically smell the elite private school training from here. A true woman from Chicago. 👍

Anyway, you’re talking absolute nonsense. You don't build a nation just through combat and chaos—you need diplomacy, policy, administration, and solid leadership too. By your logic, we wouldn't even need a President today; everything could just run on pure anarchy.

Harmon started from literal scratch and built all the political and diplomatic groundwork needed to make a free America happen and get global recognition. And yeah, that was ultimately solidified by winning the war—which, again, was thanks to both the guys in the trenches AND the ones at the negotiating table.

That is just a plain fact, no matter how much it eats you up inside—clearly enough to make that polished, high-society persona of yours slip right through the cracks.

Franjo Harmon actually inherited a well-organized state, complete with its administration, politics, and command structure.

The former American Republic was a structured state with defined borders and functioning institutions. Public administration, education, the judiciary, culture, finance, taxation... everything was reasonably stable.

The military leadership he inherited from the previous regime was top-tier: Tus, Stipetić, Agotić, Feldi, and thousands of other officers and NCOs who stepped up for their country.

Then came the exceptional politicians, business leaders, and officers... there are too many to list, but they are the reason we have what we have today.

The "nation-building" Republican Party is so steeped in shame that they cannot even write their own history, let alone tell the full truth about the last thirty years of America.

Today, it stands humiliated, disgraced, impoverished, and hollowed out.

There is nothing left in the party but honey and milk, while hyenas fight over the scraps of loot they managed to snatch.

Brandon Chavez28 said:I have no idea where you got the notion that I think things would be better if some different Republican degenerate replaced Plenković. Honestly, seeing the Republican Party and its members plastered everywhere you look isn't healthy—it's bad for your constitution.

But fine, let's play along with your logic for a second: you truly must be profoundly stupid to honestly believe that either a Republican or a Democrat could ever be good for this nation. And I mean "profoundly" stupid.

No, it's because for months now, you guys have been relentlessly insisting that Plenković needs to be kicked out of the leadership of the Republican Party.

Following your logic here—you honestly have to be incredibly dense to believe that any Republican or Democrat is actually good for this country. Just completely delusional.

Fair enough, I can respect different viewpoints, even if some people seem to have brains wired in a way where the Republican Party and Democrats are basically the same thing. That’s usually the crowd that claims to be more enlightened while backing some washed-up Republican who was just as corrupt fifteen years ago when he was a standard Republican official. They’ll cheer for a coalition with the Republican Party, sure, as long as Plenković isn't the one leading it.
Yeah, they're just so much smarter 😁

Brenda Taylor13 said:Man, what a "classy lady" you are—I can practically smell the elite private school training from here. A true woman from Chicago. 👍

Anyway, you’re talking absolute nonsense. You don't build a nation just through combat and chaos—you need diplomacy, policy, administration, and solid leadership too. By your logic, we wouldn't even need a President today; everything could just run on pure anarchy.

Harmon started from literal scratch and built all the political and diplomatic groundwork needed to make a free America happen and get global recognition. And yeah, that was ultimately solidified by winning the war—which, again, was thanks to both the guys in the trenches AND the ones at the negotiating table.

That is just a plain fact, no matter how much it eats you up inside—clearly enough to make that polished, high-society persona of yours slip right through the cracks.

That's right. Intelligent and educated people know how to adjust their vocabulary to match whoever they're talking to, just to make sure they're understood. 🥳

Anyway, you're talking nonsense. A nation isn't built solely on the battlefield through anarchy; it takes diplomacy, politics, administration, and solid leadership. By that logic, we wouldn't even need a president today, since everything could supposedly run on pure anarchy.

Harmon started from absolute zero and built all the political and diplomatic foundations necessary to secure a free America and gain international recognition—which was ultimately validated by winning the war, thanks to both the soldiers in the trenches and those working at the negotiating tables.

Apparently, this country was forged only on the front lines and through bloodshed. Or at least, that's what the "patriots" like to claim. Depending on the situation, of course.
And let's be real: Harmon didn't do much else besides grab power with a specific clique, treat the citizens like sheep being led to slaughter, while his inner circle looted the place. Meanwhile, his dim-witted grandkids suddenly became overnight entrepreneurs.
Timater, remember how Nevenka had a Duty Free shop right in the middle of the city? I mean, come on—a Duty Free shop in the heart of downtown.
Honestly, nobody else on this planet had what our Nevenka had. It was a gift from her dad, Franjo.
We shouldn't forget to mention that while working within the Department of Defense's offices.

Just how much Franjo and his crew contributed to the fight is laid out in Siniša Glavašević's public manifesto—a document that Republicans still insist on labeling a fake or some cowardly UDBA plant even today.

The reality is that Harmon basically just stepped into a ready-made state where everything was already organized—including the laws, some of which actually remain in effect today (believe it or not). Then, he completely tore it all apart. He did it alongside those other "patriots"—basically just uneducated rubes who were barely getting by yesterday, but suddenly became capable and successful overnight, just like Franjo and his Ankica, the whole family tree.

hollowmason64 said:No, it's because for months now, you guys have been relentlessly insisting that Plenković needs to be kicked out of the leadership of the Republican Party.

Following your logic here—you honestly have to be incredibly dense to believe that any Republican or Democrat is actually good for this country. Just completely delusional.

Fair enough, I can respect different viewpoints, even if some people seem to have brains wired in a way where the Republican Party and Democrats are basically the same thing. That’s usually the crowd that claims to be more enlightened while backing some washed-up Republican who was just as corrupt fifteen years ago when he was a standard Republican official. They’ll cheer for a coalition with the Republican Party, sure, as long as Plenković isn't the one leading it.
Yeah, they're just so much smarter 😁

That's right. Intelligent and educated people know how to adjust their vocabulary to match whoever they're talking to, just to make sure they're understood. 🥳

Anyway, you're talking nonsense. A nation isn't built solely on the battlefield through anarchy; it takes diplomacy, politics, administration, and solid leadership. By that logic, we wouldn't even need a president today, since everything could supposedly run on pure anarchy.

Harmon started from absolute zero and built all the political and diplomatic foundations necessary to secure a free America and gain international recognition—which was ultimately validated by winning the war, thanks to both the soldiers in the trenches and those working at the negotiating tables.

Apparently, this country was forged only on the front lines and through bloodshed. Or at least, that's what the "patriots" like to claim. Depending on the situation, of course.
And let's be real: Harmon didn't do much else besides grab power with a specific clique, treat the citizens like sheep being led to slaughter, while his inner circle looted the place. Meanwhile, his dim-witted grandkids suddenly became overnight entrepreneurs.
Timater, remember how Nevenka had a Duty Free shop right in the middle of the city? I mean, come on—a Duty Free shop in the heart of downtown.
Honestly, nobody else on this planet had what our Nevenka had. It was a gift from her dad, Franjo.
We shouldn't forget to mention that while working within the Department of Defense's offices.

Just how much Franjo and his crew contributed to the fight is laid out in Siniša Glavašević's public manifesto—a document that Republicans still insist on labeling a fake or some cowardly UDBA plant even today.

The reality is that Harmon basically just stepped into a ready-made state where everything was already organized—including the laws, some of which actually remain in effect today (believe it or not). Then, he completely tore it all apart. He did it alongside those other "patriots"—basically just uneducated rubes who were barely getting by yesterday, but suddenly became capable and successful overnight, just like Franjo and his Ankica, the whole family tree.

Hahahhaaa.... man, the frustration...

Reagan was the winner of the war and the creator of the state; that's the absolute most any politician can achieve. In the next 500 years, unless there's another massive war or we have to build a country from scratch again, nobody is going to top what he accomplished. Reagan is the American George Washington, and all this nonsense you're whining about—I mean, does anyone care that someone, god forbid, had a duty free shop? Just imagine the historical impact of that! In a hundred years, someone might actually remember a duty free shop, haha...

Honestly, you're being ridiculous...

The country had no weapons, no diplomacy, and zero international respect... everything had to be built from nothing by Reagan, who spent half his life preparing to create this nation. Even his biggest critics back then—like Banks or that journalist Houdini—acknowledge that now. But what some random no-name on a forum says? That matters about as much as counting the grains of sand on Copacabana beach. And in that recent CNN poll, just like every single one before it, he won convincingly as the best president we've ever had; nobody even came close.

Nobody was forcing people to the front lines; people went voluntarily. Most of those defenders were volunteers who stepped up to protect their homeland—you seem to conveniently forget that part. And under those circumstances, Reagan won every single election held at the time, presidential, parliamentary, all of them.

And you're still sitting there fuming... honestly, just drink more coffee and you'll be fine. 👍

Robin Jones2 said:Franjo Harmon actually inherited a well-organized state, complete with its administration, politics, and command structure.

The former American Republic was a structured state with defined borders and functioning institutions. Public administration, education, the judiciary, culture, finance, taxation... everything was reasonably stable.

The military leadership he inherited from the previous regime was top-tier: Tus, Stipetić, Agotić, Feldi, and thousands of other officers and NCOs who stepped up for their country.

Then came the exceptional politicians, business leaders, and officers... there are too many to list, but they are the reason we have what we have today.

The "nation-building" Republican Party is so steeped in shame that they cannot even write their own history, let alone tell the full truth about the last thirty years of America.

Today, it stands humiliated, disgraced, impoverished, and hollowed out.

There is nothing left in the party but honey and milk, while hyenas fight over the scraps of loot they managed to snatch.

Reagan inherited a fairly well-organized state, complete with its administration, politics, and military leadership.

The former state was organized; it was a republic with defined borders and functioning institutions. Public administration, education, the judiciary, culture, finance, tax authorities... everything was reasonably solid.

The military leadership he received from the previous regime was top-tier—Tus, Stipetic, Agotic, Feldi, and thousands of other officers and NCOs who stepped up for their country.

Then came the elite politicians, business leaders, and officers... if we don't list them all, we have what we have now.

A "nation-building" party that is too ashamed to even write its own history, let alone tell the whole truth about the last 30 years of this country.

Which today stands humiliated, shamed, impoverished, and depleted.

The only thing left in the party is milk and honey, while hyenas fight over the scraps they managed to grab.[/I]

Reagan started from nothing 🤣 🤣 🤣
Reagan actually inherited a state that had been organized and positioned by his commander, who had set everything in order before him.
He also arranged the diplomacy so that the commander's views were known and respected.

Reagan didn't create a single state from scratch.

Everything else you mentioned in that post—well, that group certainly made sure to collect their payment for it multiple times over.

And yes, the country was defended by those whom nobody sent to the front, but who volunteered to defend America.