COVID-19 updates and discussion

Is Vitamin D actually doing anything for the immune system these days?

Does anyone here happen to have the virus? Or maybe there's a doctor hanging out online who's got a free minute?
What kind of all the symptoms look like? Like, how does it actually lead to death? I'm curious about what specifically causes it. What’s the whole thing even like? If anyone knows and doesn't want to freak out the people who are already panicking, feel free to just shoot me a private message.

Beta-glucan is definitely the gold standard and by far the most expensive option. I was actually looking into taking it myself because my immune system has been feeling pretty weak lately, but man, that price tag is just brutal 🤷 I know they pack these things with shiitake mushrooms, some vitamins, calcium, and all that good stuff, though I can't remember the full list off the top of my head.

darktinker4 said:Beta-glucan is definitely the gold standard and by far the most expensive option. I was actually looking into taking it myself because my immune system has been feeling pretty weak lately, but man, that price tag is just brutal 🤷 I know they pack these things with shiitake mushrooms, some vitamins, calcium, and all that good stuff, though I can't remember the full list off the top of my head.

You can get beta glucan from oats, too. You just have to soak them in an acidic medium for about eight hours before cooking to get rid of the phytic acid.

darktinker4 said:Does anyone here happen to have the virus? Or maybe there's a doctor hanging out online who's got a free minute?
What kind of all the symptoms look like? Like, how does it actually lead to death? I'm curious about what specifically causes it. What’s the whole thing even like? If anyone knows and doesn't want to freak out the people who are already panicking, feel free to just shoot me a private message.

Not a doctor, but it usually starts with a scratchy throat and a cough, then moves to shortness of breath. Death comes from suffocation because mucus blocks the lung's alveoli.
It can also pass without any symptoms at all. Drink plenty of fluids. Personally, when my throat gets sore, I pop some garlic in my mouth and use a Zepter lamp to warm the area, and it's gone in a day.
Don't know if that would work for this virus, but it wouldn't hurt.

jadetinker85 said:Not a doctor, but it usually starts with a scratchy throat and a cough, then moves to shortness of breath. Death comes from suffocation because mucus blocks the lung's alveoli.
It can also pass without any symptoms at all. Drink plenty of fluids. Personally, when my throat gets sore, I pop some garlic in my mouth and use a Zepter lamp to warm the area, and it's gone in a day.
Don't know if that would work for this virus, but it wouldn't hurt.

Thanks, I was actually really curious about that...
As for the cereal stuff, back during the last season, I used to have some every single day as a supplement—especially if I wasn't feeling the lunch menu or whatever. I found that K plus was the best, though I never actually cooked it; I’d just toss it in a bowl, pour some milk over it, and chew away like a cow for an hour😁 which honestly felt better for me. Later on, I realized Target carries these wheat flakes that are even smoother.😁

If you eat grains regularly, you really need to look into
phytic acid. It acts as an anti-nutrient and can actually strip minerals from your body. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.vecer...tarica-1279356

Honestly, if I ever catch this thing, I might just skip the whole ordeal and jump straight off my balcony to get it over with... The widow of the late Dr. Pašagić: My husband was a victim of our healthcare system, not the coronavirus

northerncobra33 said:Since face masks are either impossible to find right now or are being sold at outrageous prices, I was wondering if there's a way to reuse them. Could we potentially disinfect used masks by spraying them with rubbing alcohol from a local drugstore? Or, if alcohol isn't available, would putting a used mask in an oven at about 212 degrees Fahrenheit for half an hour work? I actually heard an epidemiologist on the news mention that this virus dies off at around 140 degrees. If this is true, it could be a lifesaver for a lot of people—especially those struggling financially—to be able to cheaply sanitize the masks they already have.

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Does anyone know of any solid multivitamins that pack "everything under the sun" to boost immunity and general wellness? Given how this whole Covid-19 situation is playing out, it feels like the right time to start something like that.

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Does anyone actually know anything about this?

Sean Ruiz33 said:Does anyone know of any solid multivitamins that pack "everything under the sun" to boost immunity and general wellness? Given how this whole Covid-19 situation is playing out, it feels like the right time to start something like that.

Maybe try some beta-glucan for your immune system, plus selenium and zinc for brain function... honestly, just head over to a CVS or Walgreens and stock up on their brands. The only thing is, beta-glucan can get pretty pricey. It'll probably run you about $100 bucks per
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Any word on when this quarantine finally wraps up?? Are we looking at May 1st, June 1st, or is it going to drag on even longer?

My brain is actually melting from the boredom here.

Anyone currently stuck in quarantine who isn't using their head—go for a walk, grab your bike, hop in the car, or just head out into the woods. As long as you stay away from other people, you’ll be fine. Personally, when I look out at the city at night and see it completely deserted, just people wandering around in masks—I shut the blinds.

Jeremy Bishop35 said:Anyone currently stuck in quarantine who isn't using their head—go for a walk, grab your bike, hop in the car, or just head out into the woods. As long as you stay away from other people, you’ll be fine. Personally, when I look out at the city at night and see it completely deserted, just people wandering around in masks—I shut the blinds.

I've actually been keeping my distance from people for years now... My main issue is that I sleep during the day and I'm super active at night. I can't help but wonder what people would think if they saw me wandering around at 2 or 3 in the morning....

What people?

The city goes dead the second it gets dark—let alone at night. Nowadays, there’s nowhere to go except for a stroll, and since the weather is actually decent, you see folks out walking or pushing strollers during the day. But once night hits? There isn't a soul in sight. Seriously, check back at 2:00 AM—why do you even care?

I’m starting to get a bit irritated by the people who act like they just discovered Vitamin D—as if realizing you can't synthesize it without actual sunlight is some groundbreaking revelation. It’s no wonder the general malaise among Americans has skyrocketed over the last two decades.

Regarding runners and cyclists—I read somewhere, on some obscure sites, that there should be a gap of well over six feet between them due to sweat, body evaporation, and the general "projection" of viruses... I'm not sure if that's been scientifically proven, but it sounds perfectly logical to me. So, I’ve started giving runners and cyclists a very wide berth—honestly, I avoid them more than the slow walkers or the folks just standing around in a grocery store.

I’d love to get some perspective on this. We have several units in our building that are rented out to students, and the landlords just gave notice to cancel those leases so they can go all-in on complete renovations. Look, I get it—everyone has to update their place eventually. But honestly, given how many people are working remotely right now and the fact that our kids are doing school from home, you don't need me to tell you how infuriating this is. Imagine trying to focus while a small army of contractors descends on the place, jackhammers are shaking the entire building, and there's a constant cloud of dust drifting through the hallways while everyone is stuck inside. My neighbors are losing their minds, and since the owners don't even live here, they couldn't care less about the chaos they're causing. I don't know if anyone else has ever actually tried to hop on a Zoom call from the middle of a construction zone, or if you'd rather just skip that particular horror show. Personally, I feel like there should be some kind of local ordinance or regulation passed to postpone non-essential construction work during times like this.

steelotter49 said:I’m starting to get a bit irritated by the people who act like they just discovered Vitamin D—as if realizing you can't synthesize it without actual sunlight is some groundbreaking revelation. It’s no wonder the general malaise among Americans has skyrocketed over the last two decades.

Regarding runners and cyclists—I read somewhere, on some obscure sites, that there should be a gap of well over six feet between them due to sweat, body evaporation, and the general "projection" of viruses... I'm not sure if that's been scientifically proven, but it sounds perfectly logical to me. So, I’ve started giving runners and cyclists a very wide berth—honestly, I avoid them more than the slow walkers or the folks just standing around in a grocery store.

Exactly—a cyclist's sweat can carry particles at least 10 meters away through their clothing, let alone the droplet infections from a biker who isn't blowing their nose, or who is coughing and sneezing even from a minor allergy.

Yes, the irritability has indeed increased incredibly.

Greetings from a cyclist—keep at least 20 meters of distance if you spot me.

I'm about to drop a New York Times article here—it’s got links regarding the coronavirus, but also touches on something much more dangerous that they're trying to sweep under the rug.

I was just reading through this piece from the New York Times, and man, it really puts things into perspective. It’s one of those articles that makes you stop and think about how much our environment actually dictates our health. Basically, there's this new research linking air pollution to worse health outcomes during the pandemic. According to a massive study—an analysis of 3,080 counties in the United States—there is a pretty terrifying correlation between poor air quality and mortality rates. To put it bluntly, the study found that Washington — Coronavirus patients in areas that had high levels of air pollution before the pandemic are more likely to die from the infection than patients in cleaner parts of the country. It's wild when you think about it. We often talk about viruses as these isolated threats, but this shows they don't act alone; they hit harder in places where the air is already heavy with smog or pollutants. The research, which was conducted at Johns Hopkins University, suggests that these pre-existing environmental factors play a huge role in Covid-19 outcomes. The researchers are pointing out that this isn't just academic trivia, either. The research could have significant implications for how public health officials choose to allocate resources like ventilators and respirators as the coronavirus spreads. If we know certain areas are more vulnerable due to their air quality, we can be smarter about where we send help. I remember driving through some of the more industrial parts of the Midwest a few years back—you could almost taste the grit in the air. It’s easy to dismiss that feeling as just "city life," but according to this, it might be a literal death sentence during a respiratory crisis. The paper has been submitted for peer review and publication in The New England Journal of medicine, so we'll see if the data holds up under even more scrutiny, but for now, it's a sobering look at how interconnected our lungs and our atmosphere really are.

New research Links Air Pollution to Higher Coronavirus Death Rates I was just reading through some recent findings, and it’s pretty heavy stuff, but definitely worth a look. It turns out there's a real connection between the air we breathe and how people handle the virus. Specifically, New research Links Air Pollution to Higher Coronavirus Death Rates. It sounds like this comes from an analysis of 3,080 counties in The United States, and the results are pretty eye-opening. Basically, the data suggests that folks living in places where the air quality wasn't great even before everything kicked off were facing much tougher battles once the virus hit. To put it plainly: Quote : Washington — Coronavirus patients in areas that Had high levels of Air pollution before The pandemic ara more likely to die fra The infection Than patients in cleaner parts of The country. This kind of thing really changes how you look at urban planning and environmental policy, doesn't it? It isn't just about smog being an eyesore; it's a massive factor in community health. According to the team at Johns Hopkins University, this is a huge deal because it highlights how pre-existing environmental stressors can make a respiratory virus so much more lethal. In fact, The Harvard analysis is The First nationwide study to show a statistical link between these two factors, which is wild when you think about how much we focused solely on the virus itself without looking at the environment around us. The researchers are looking closely at Covid-19 outcomes across different regions, and they're pointing out that this isn't just academic trivia. The research could have significant implications for How public health officials choose to allocate resources like ventilators and respirators as The coronavirus spreads. If you know certain areas are already vulnerable due to poor air quality, you can prepare better. I remember driving through some of the heavier industrial corridors back in the day—places like parts of Cook County or near the manufacturing hubs around Chicago—and you could practically taste the grit in the air. You always knew it wasn't "healthy," but seeing the data actually connect that grit to higher mortality rates during a pandemic really hits home. It makes you wonder what else we've been overlooking. The paper Has been submitted for Peer Review and publication in The New England Journal of medicina, so we'll see if the peer review process adds any more nuance to these findings. It’s definitely a lot to chew on while we all try to navigate these changing times.

Washington — It turns out that if you were living in an area with heavy smog and poor air quality before the pandemic hit, you were actually at a much higher risk of dying from the virus compared to folks living in cleaner parts of the country. This comes from some new research that's making waves because it’s essentially the first nationwide study to show a definitive statistical link between long-term pollution exposure and Covid-19 outcomes. It really makes you stop and think about how much our environment shapes our health, even before a crisis starts. You see it all the time—how much harder it is to breathe in certain cities versus others—but seeing it laid out like this in a major study changes the conversation entirely.

So, I was reading through this recent study from Johns Hopkins University, and it’s one of those things that really makes you stop and think about the air we're breathing every day. In an analysis of 3,080 counties in The United States, researchers found a pretty sobering connection between air quality and how people fared during the pandemic. Basically, they discovered that areas with higher concentrations of PM 2.5—those tiny, nasty little particles that hang in the air—saw much higher death rates from the disease. It’s a bit unsettling when you realize how much our environment impacts our health, even before a crisis hits. It really puts things into perspective regarding how we manage public health on a national scale.

For a few weeks now, public health experts have been buzzing about a potential connection between poor air quality and the severity of Covid-19. It’s one of those things you start noticing once someone points it out—how much the air we breathe actually matters for our overall resilience. According to a recent study from Johns Hopkins University, this isn't just local speculation; it's a broader pattern. In fact, The Harvard analysis is The First nationwide study to show a statistical link, uncovering a pretty massive overlap between Covid-19 deaths and other illnesses typically triggered by breathing in fine particulate matter over a long period. It really makes you think about how everything in our environment is interconnected.

"Basically, what the researchers found is that if you've been breathing in polluted air for a long time, you're much more likely to face the worst possible Covid-19 outcomes," the authors noted in their report. I was just scrolling through some recent data when I stumbled upon this fascinating study from Johns Hopkins University, and honestly, it’s one of those things that really makes you stop and think about how everything is connected. It looks at how air quality might play a role in how people handle certain illnesses. Specifically, they did this massive deep dive—an analysis of 3,080 counties in The United States—to see if there was a correlation between pre-existing pollution levels and how people fared during the recent health crisis. And the findings are pretty heavy. According to the study, Quote : Washington — Coronavirus patients in areas that Had high levels of Air pollution before The pandemic ara more likely to die fra The infection Than patients in cleaner parts of The country. It’s wild to think about, isn't it? You go to a place like Chicago or even down in Atlanta, where the air can get a bit thick sometimes, and suddenly that environmental factor becomes a huge variable in medical outcomes. It reminds me of a buddy of mine who moved from a breezy coastal town to a major metro area; he always felt like his lungs were working overtime, but seeing actual data back that up on a national scale is something else entirely. The Harvard analysis is The First nationwide study to show a statistical link regarding Covid-19 outcomes and air quality. This isn't just academic trivia, either. The research could have significant implications for How public health officials choose to allocate resources like ventilators and respirators as The coronavirus spreads. If you know which areas are most vulnerable due to the air they breathe, you can actually plan ahead instead of just reacting. They’ve already sent the work off for review, as The paper Has been submitted for Peer Review and publication in The New England Journal of medicina. It’ll be interesting to see the peer feedback, but for now, it definitely adds a new layer to the conversation about urban planning and public health. Definitely worth a read if you have a few minutes to spare.

It’s pretty wild when you look at the numbers. The study basically suggests that if Manhattan had managed to cut its average particulate matter levels by just a tiny bit—we're talking a single microgram per cubic meter—over the last two decades, the borough probably would've avoided about 248 Covid-19 deaths by now. It really makes you think about how much those small changes in air quality actually matter in the long run.

Looking at the big picture, this kind of data really matters because it could change the game for how public health officials decide where to send critical supplies—stuff like ventilators and respirators—as the coronavirus continues to spread through different communities. It’s all about getting those life-saving tools to the places that need them most. On that note, the paper has been submitted for peer review and publication in The New England Journal of medicina.

It turns out that even a tiny uptick in long-term exposure to air pollution can lead to some pretty heavy consequences when it comes to Covid-19. What’s really striking is that this holds true even after you account for all the usual suspects—things like how many people smoke in an area or how crowded the cities are. It’s one of those things where you think you've factored in everything, but the environmental impact still hits hard.

Basically, what they found was pretty eye-opening. If you’ve spent decades living in a county where the air is thick with fine particulate matter, you're actually about 15 percent more likely to die from Covid-19 compared to someone living just one unit away in a cleaner area. It really makes you think about how much our environment shapes our health long before we even get sick.

Take Washington, D.C., for example—it’s looking like they'll probably see a higher death rate compared to right next door in Montgomery County. It’s similar to what you'd expect in Illinois, where Cook County, including all of Chicago, would likely fare worse than its neighbor, Lake County. You see the same pattern in Georgia, too; Fulton County, where Atlanta is located, will likely deal with more deaths than the surrounding Douglas County.

"Basically, this study shows that if you live in a county where the air quality is pretty rough, the risk of dying from Covid-19 goes up," explained Francesca Dominik, a professor of biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University who led the study.
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So, I was just catching up on some news, and there’s this interesting bit of research floating around. Basically, it looks like air pollution—specifically those tiny PM2.5 particles—is actually linked to higher mortality rates when it comes to Covid-19. It’s one of those things where you realize how much the environment we breathe in affects everything else, too. Just something to chew on while you're going about your day.

It turns out that where you live might play a much bigger role in how you handle a virus than we previously thought. According to some new data, patients living in American areas with higher levels of air pollution before the pandemic were actually more likely to die from the infection compared to folks living in places with cleaner air. I was reading through the details earlier, and it’s pretty eye-opening. You can check out the full study at the link above if you want to dive into the specifics. It really makes you think about how much environmental factors shape our overall health resilience.

So, I was just reading through some recent findings, and it’s actually pretty eye-opening. Researchers took a deep dive into an analysis of 3,080 counties in The United States, and they found a pretty direct connection between higher levels of particulate matter (that PM 2.5 stuff we always hear about) and increased mortality rates from Covid-19. It turns out The Harvard analysis is The First nationwide study to show a statistical link between high exposure to those tiny particles and Covid-19 outcomes. Basically, when people are breathing in polluted air over a long period, it seems to make them way more vulnerable, leading to much more severe complications when they catch the virus. It really makes you think about how much our environment shapes our health before we even get sick.
The study found that if Manhattan could just drop its average exposure to PM2.5 particles by a single unit, it would result in 248 fewer deaths per week.
Researchers used this data as a way to figure out where to deploy resources like ventilators and respirators—essentially targeting the most polluted pockets of America.

It’s wild how even a tiny uptick in long-term pollution exposure can carry such heavy consequences, especially when you factor in other variables like smoking rates and population density.

They discovered that someone living for decades in a heavily polluted area faces a 15% higher mortality risk compared to someone who lives just 1 unit less polluted elsewhere.

For instance, Washington, D.C. will likely see higher death rates than neighboring Montgomery County; similarly, Chicago in Cook County, Illinois, should fare worse than nearby Lake County, Illinois, while Atlanta in Fulton County, Georgia, will probably suffer more deaths than neighboring Douglas County.

This study is part of a small but growing body of research—mostly still emerging from outside the US—that sheds light on how breathing dirty air throughout your life can make people much more vulnerable to Covid-19, which has already claimed over 10,000 lives in the United States and 74,000 globally.

Now, the analysis didn't dive into individual patient data, nor did it explain why certain parts of the country get hit harder than others. It also remains unclear whether particulate matter specifically helps spread the virus or if long-term exposure simply weakens the body's defenses.

As we learn more about the resurgence of Covid-19, this research could also trigger major shifts in clean air regulations—something the Trump administration had been working to roll back for three years because they were tough on industry.

“The findings highlight how crucial it is to stick with existing air pollution regulations to protect public health during and after the Covid-19 crisis,” the study notes.

Just last week, the Trump administration rolled out a plan to loosen Obama-era tailpipe emission standards, arguing that letting people buy newer, safer cars would save lives. But their own math suggests otherwise: the increased air pollution will actually lead to more premature deaths.

By rolling back last year's rule regarding carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, the EPA essentially admitted that this move would likely lead to about 1,400 additional premature deaths every year due to worsened air quality.

When asked if the EPA was looking into the link between air pollution and the virus, or considering policies to address it, spokesperson Andrea Woods pointed toward the CDC and maintained that the Trump administration's shift would actually improve air quality.

Beth Gardiner, a journalist and author of *Outcast: Life and Breath in the Age of Air Pollution*, expressed deep concern that the surge of the coronavirus will be particularly devastating for countries struggling with massive pollution, like India.

"Most countries just aren't taking this seriously enough, and they aren't doing nearly enough given the sheer amount of damage air pollution does to our health," she said.

Most of these fine particles come from burning fuel—think cars, refineries, and power plants—as well as indoor sources like tobacco smoke. Experts say that breathing in these microscopic pollutants over time causes inflammation and damages lung tissue, which ultimately weakens the body's ability to fight off respiratory infections.

Countless studies have shown that exposure to fine particles ramps up the risk of lung cancer, heart attacks, strokes, and even premature death. Back in 2003, Dr. Zuo-Feng Zhang, the dean of research at the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health, found that SARS patients in the most polluted parts of China were twice as likely to die from the disease compared to those in areas with cleaner air.

During an interview, Dr. Zhang mentioned that the findings from Johns Hopkins University align "very consistently" with his own results.

To put this Johns Hopkins University study together, researchers gathered data on particulate matter from over 3,000 counties along with Covid-19 death counts for each county through the Coronavirus Resource Center at Johns Hopkins University, pulling everything together by April 4th. By using a model that looks at aggregated data rather than just looking at individuals, they found what Francesca Dominik described as a statistically significant link between air pollution and dying from the virus.

The team also ran six different secondary analyses just to make sure nothing was skewing the results. For instance, since New York was hit incredibly hard—with death rates there being five times higher than almost anywhere else—they reran the numbers while completely leaving out all the counties in New York state. They also tried running the model without including any counties that had fewer than 10 confirmed Covid-19 cases. On top of that, they adjusted for other common factors that mess with health outcomes, like local smoking rates, how crowded a place is, and poverty levels.

Dr. Balmes pointed out that because they aren't looking at specific patient histories, the study can only suggest a causal connection between air pollution and Covid-19 deaths, which would need more research to prove for certain—a point that Francesca Dominik agreed with. But even so, Dr. Balmes noted, "It’s still a very valuable finding."